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Here's the quote:

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Modifié par Saslic, 23 janvier 2011 - 07:29 .


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ceruleancrescent wrote...
And I suppose possessive can be taken as that way, but I looking back I suppose that's not the word I meant, I meant more...protective I suppose, Like the little banter that someone wrote beforehand envolving Fenris and Anders and confronting Anders on his flirting with Hawke and Fenris saying "she's mine, back off". 

To be fair, this is all a matter of opinion, but the way Fenris reacted by Anders simply flirting with Hawke put a bad taste in my mouth. If I discovered that my lover was going around saying things like that to perfectly harmless men, I'd be put off. It shows insecurity in our relationship, and I assume trust is one of the first things that will have to be built with Fenris before you even go on to having an actual relationship with him.

Not to mention it just seemed... overdramatic. Then again, most females do prefer drama, I suppose. A sweeping romance instead of a tender or slightly more realistic one. I realize this is a fantasy game, but must everything be so exaggerated and overdone?

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Pseudocognition wrote...

Deliciously-Demonic wrote...

Passionate. Obbsessive. Possessive.


...obsessive and posessive are not healthy traits to posess.
Fenris is not Edward Cullen. 


This.

Just... no to the obsessive and possessive traits. Given Fenris's history, he would be the last person to have these traits. I would be immediately turned off if this popped up on screen.

Fenris: Hawke, I LOVE YOU AND YOU ARE MINE. YOU HEAR ME? MINEEEE! MY SPIDER MONKEY! Hawkehhh...

Hawke Dialog options:
a) ... uh... thanks?
B) ZOMG! SQUEEE!
c) Fen, I think we need to have a lil talk.
d) I'm getting a restraining order now.

Two vampire references... spot them and you get a cookie.

Modifié par CuzImShort, 23 janvier 2011 - 07:32 .


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Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

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It's not really meant to be an attack, I just really don't want Fen to be an Edward Cullen-style dysfunctional creep. *sadface*


I agree. I like my freedom too.


This is so horrible if taken into the context of Twilight being an abusive relationship.

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-sigh- I meant the fan-girls are passionate, obssessive and possessive over Fenris, people.



The day Fenris is associated with Edward Cullen is the day I'm throwing away the computer, giving up on society and running away to live in seclusion in the mountains.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

fighterchicks wrote...

I thought that DG said somewhere something about him brooding.


Then I'd be wrong.  Still without such a quote I'm not quite getting that vibe.  Granted, David Gaider did just say "more stoic" in the context of describing another character the concept of a stoic person leads me to picture on who is self-controlled and confident.

ceruleancrescent wrote...

Well, first he would flinch-- because his markings are quite painful, and doubly so when they're touched. His first instinct might be to punch someone who touched him, though he'd probably hold back if he realized it was Hawke.

Then he would brood.


So he did.  Anyway, not entirely sure what impact that has on his character unless he's going to be teased by Hawke with consistency.


I just took it as that he has the tendency to brood if something causes him too.
Although that could just be my interpretation.... We'll find out soon enough in March <3

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[quote]ceruleancrescent wrote...
And I suppose possessive can be taken as that way, but I looking back I suppose that's not the word I meant, I meant more...protective I suppose, Like the little banter that someone wrote beforehand envolving Fenris and Anders and confronting Anders on his flirting with Hawke and Fenris saying "she's mine, back off". [/quote]
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That's not textbook possessiveness?

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 23 janvier 2011 - 07:31 .


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Upsettingshorts wrote...

fighterchicks wrote...

I thought that DG said somewhere something about him brooding.


Then I'd be wrong.  Still without such a quote I'm not quite getting that vibe.  Granted, David Gaider did just say "more stoic" in the context of describing another character the concept of a stoic person leads me to picture on who is self-controlled and confident.

ceruleancrescent wrote...

Well, first he would flinch-- because his markings are quite painful, and doubly so when they're touched. His first instinct might be to punch someone who touched him, though he'd probably hold back if he realized it was Hawke.

Then he would brood.


So he did.  Anyway, not entirely sure what impact that has on his character unless he's going to be teased by Hawke with consistency.


Ooooh, that was the quote.  I'm not sure he was entirely serious with that response.  *shrugs*  Regardless of brooding!Fenris or not, I'm mainly interested in Fenris because of how he deals with what he went through.

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ceruleancrescent wrote...
And I suppose possessive can be taken as that way, but I looking back I suppose that's not the word I meant, I meant more...protective I suppose, Like the little banter that someone wrote beforehand envolving Fenris and Anders and confronting Anders on his flirting with Hawke and Fenris saying "she's mine, back off". 


she's mine


Sorry, that's posessiveness. Implying ownership or control over another person. Concern for their well-being would be protectiveness and Anders was not posing a threat in that particular dialogue.

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 23 janvier 2011 - 07:33 .


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Deliciously-Demonic wrote...

-sigh- I meant the fan-girls are passionate, obssessive and possessive over Fenris, people.

The day Fenris is associated with Edward Cullen is the day I'm throwing away the computer, giving up on society and running away to live in seclusion in the mountains.


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Anywho, thanks for the clarification.

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Calla S wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

Deliciously-Demonic wrote...
Passionate. Obbsessive. Possessive.

...obsessive and posessive are not healthy traits to posess.
Fenris is not Edward Cullen.

+1.

Stop fetishizing things that could potentially be a sore spot for him. An ex-slave would not take calling someone else a slave (even in the most "romantic" of contexts, though that's hardly romantic) or possessing them. It's just not something that would happen, and it's certainly not something to get your knickers in a twist over.


Great...now I have I'm a slave for you going through my head!

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Deliciously-Demonic wrote...

-sigh- I meant the fan-girls are passionate, obssessive and possessive over Fenris, people.

The day Fenris is associated with Edward Cullen is the day I'm throwing away the computer, giving up on society and running away to live in seclusion in the mountains.


I've already done two of those things. Wi-fi in the mountains is so hard to come by but how else would I talk to you lovely people about the coolest looking white haired guy since Dante. 

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[quote]Upsettingshorts wrote...

[quote]ceruleancrescent wrote...
And I suppose possessive can be taken as that way, but I looking back I suppose that's not the word I meant, I meant more...protective I suppose, Like the little banter that someone wrote beforehand envolving Fenris and Anders and confronting Anders on his flirting with Hawke and Fenris saying "she's mine, back off". [/quote]
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That's not textbook possessiveness?

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:(.... I didn't mean it like that....
Okay...I'm not going to be able to explain this correctly, so never mind, I didn't think the comment would turn into this, sorry

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Fenris strike me as a 'Look, don't touch.' type of guy. I don't really like angst, so I think I'd like him more this way :< Oh well, I think I'll have to wait and see.

Modifié par Dhiro, 23 janvier 2011 - 07:49 .


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You guys are so fast!  I just can't keep up with it all, almost twenty more pages since I left!  *Faints*

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ceruleancrescent wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Anarya wrote...

ceruleancrescent wrote...

 Angsty, Passionate, Possesive, Brooding Fenris.....

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I reeeeally hope he isn't actually like that. Please no.


I would rather Fen not act like an angsty teenager throughout the entire game, thanks.

*still trying to figure out how someone can be Angsty, Possessive, Passionate, and Brooding all at the same time while having the background of an ex-slave*

My brain hurts.


whoa whoa whoa whoa....that got taken so far from what I meant it's not even funny. I should have been more specific or have said nothing at all.

I don't think there's anything wrong with being passionate so I'm not going to address that.
I suspect, based on his past, he's going to be somewhat angsty, I'm not talking extreme twilight or whatever you want to do, but periodically I supposed he may be angsty (in general) but not all the time, as long as it was in context.

We've already been told he may/probably/will brood at some point based off of the fact that his lyrium branding is painful, so at some point I suspect he will brood.

And I suppose possessive can be taken as that way, but I looking back I suppose that's not the word I meant, I meant more...protective I suppose, Like the little banter that someone wrote beforehand envolving Fenris and Anders and confronting Anders on his flirting with Hawke and Fenris saying "she's mine, back off". 

I just thought all of those things being present at some point was appealing as long as it fit....
I did not meant it at all the way it was perceived....and I'm somewhat embarrassed....my bad :(


You're going to have to define or refine some of your terms there...Angsty tends to have a rather teenagery (dare I say "twilightish") definition right now, so saying that you hope he's angsty tends to bring to mind things like sparkly vampires and Dawson's Creek.  Im not sure what you think of when you think of "angst", but what comes to my mind is a 15 year old writing poetry convinced that no one gets him/her. 

I do have to agree with others that it might be difficult for him to be possessive of another person, based on his previous life

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You guys are so fast!  I just can't keep up with it all, almost twenty more pages since I left!  *Faints*

I come bearing a banner.  I spent entirely too much time on it.

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:o  It's absolutely gorgeous!

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Ineffable Igor wrote...

You guys are so fast!  I just can't keep up with it all, almost twenty more pages since I left!  *Faints*

I come bearing a banner.  I spent entirely too much time on it.

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How pretty!

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ceruleancrescent wrote...

He did mention brooding here...

David Gaider wrote...

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...
Evening, Ser Gaider! *tips hat*

I had a feeling Hawke would probably either get punched or get threatened with getting her hands cut off.


Well, first he would flinch-- because his markings are quite painful, and doubly so when they're touched. His first instinct might be to punch someone who touched him, though he'd probably hold back if he realized it was Hawke.

Then he would brood.


My sense from that quote was that Darth Gaider was poking a little fun with the bolded section and did not mean that it would be a defining characteristic of Fenris.  It is ok for devs to have a little fun and you don't have to take everything as if it's coming down from the mount...

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bsbcaer wrote...

ceruleancrescent wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Anarya wrote...

ceruleancrescent wrote...

 Angsty, Passionate, Possesive, Brooding Fenris.....

../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png


I reeeeally hope he isn't actually like that. Please no.


I would rather Fen not act like an angsty teenager throughout the entire game, thanks.

*still trying to figure out how someone can be Angsty, Possessive, Passionate, and Brooding all at the same time while having the background of an ex-slave*

My brain hurts.


whoa whoa whoa whoa....that got taken so far from what I meant it's not even funny. I should have been more specific or have said nothing at all.

I don't think there's anything wrong with being passionate so I'm not going to address that.
I suspect, based on his past, he's going to be somewhat angsty, I'm not talking extreme twilight or whatever you want to do, but periodically I supposed he may be angsty (in general) but not all the time, as long as it was in context.

We've already been told he may/probably/will brood at some point based off of the fact that his lyrium branding is painful, so at some point I suspect he will brood.

And I suppose possessive can be taken as that way, but I looking back I suppose that's not the word I meant, I meant more...protective I suppose, Like the little banter that someone wrote beforehand envolving Fenris and Anders and confronting Anders on his flirting with Hawke and Fenris saying "she's mine, back off". 

I just thought all of those things being present at some point was appealing as long as it fit....
I did not meant it at all the way it was perceived....and I'm somewhat embarrassed....my bad :(


You're going to have to define or refine some of your terms there...Angsty tends to have a rather teenagery (dare I say "twilightish") definition right now, so saying that you hope he's angsty tends to bring to mind things like sparkly vampires and Dawson's Creek.  Im not sure what you think of when you think of "angst", but what comes to my mind is a 15 year old writing poetry convinced that no one gets him/her. 

I do have to agree with others that it might be difficult for him to be possessive of another person, based on his previous life


Even though this isn't directed at me, when I thing of "angsty" I don't get the teenager feel.  Personally, I feel that he would be more...solitary, I guess.  I'm not entirely sure how to describe it.  Just...the part about how he's in a new place with no friends, it's understandable that he would be distant and closed off.  I think that the whole "people don't get me" thing comes into play, for me at least, more in terms of he doesn't necessarily understand people or how to interact well with them because he was a slave for so long.  Sorry if that didn't make much sense.  I'm having a hard time trying to explain what I mean for "angsty".  Maybe i need to use another word?

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Ineffable Igor wrote...

You guys are so fast!  I just can't keep up with it all, almost twenty more pages since I left!  *Faints*

I come bearing a banner.  I spent entirely too much time on it.

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La_Duchessa wrote...

Ineffable Igor wrote...

You guys are so fast!  I just can't keep up with it all, almost twenty more pages since I left!  *Faints*

I come bearing a banner.  I spent entirely too much time on it.

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Its gorgeous!!! Posted Image
Can I put it in my sig???


How do you put things in your sig? 0_0

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bsbcaer wrote...

You're going to have to define or refine some of your terms there...Angsty tends to have a rather teenagery (dare I say "twilightish") definition right now, so saying that you hope he's angsty tends to bring to mind things like sparkly vampires and Dawson's Creek.  Im not sure what you think of when you think of "angst", but what comes to my mind is a 15 year old writing poetry convinced that no one gets him/her. 

I do have to agree with others that it might be difficult for him to be possessive of another person, based on his previous life


Sparkly vampires and Dawson's creek is not what I was thinking of when I said "angst"

as I said obviously these were the wrong words to use...

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I hope he's not possessive. Then again, the way I'd like him is probably not dramatic enough for a fantasy game >.>

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fighterchicks wrote...

bsbcaer wrote...

ceruleancrescent wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Anarya wrote...

ceruleancrescent wrote...

 Angsty, Passionate, Possesive, Brooding Fenris.....

../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png


I reeeeally hope he isn't actually like that. Please no.


I would rather Fen not act like an angsty teenager throughout the entire game, thanks.

*still trying to figure out how someone can be Angsty, Possessive, Passionate, and Brooding all at the same time while having the background of an ex-slave*

My brain hurts.


whoa whoa whoa whoa....that got taken so far from what I meant it's not even funny. I should have been more specific or have said nothing at all.

I don't think there's anything wrong with being passionate so I'm not going to address that.
I suspect, based on his past, he's going to be somewhat angsty, I'm not talking extreme twilight or whatever you want to do, but periodically I supposed he may be angsty (in general) but not all the time, as long as it was in context.

We've already been told he may/probably/will brood at some point based off of the fact that his lyrium branding is painful, so at some point I suspect he will brood.

And I suppose possessive can be taken as that way, but I looking back I suppose that's not the word I meant, I meant more...protective I suppose, Like the little banter that someone wrote beforehand envolving Fenris and Anders and confronting Anders on his flirting with Hawke and Fenris saying "she's mine, back off". 

I just thought all of those things being present at some point was appealing as long as it fit....
I did not meant it at all the way it was perceived....and I'm somewhat embarrassed....my bad :(


You're going to have to define or refine some of your terms there...Angsty tends to have a rather teenagery (dare I say "twilightish") definition right now, so saying that you hope he's angsty tends to bring to mind things like sparkly vampires and Dawson's Creek.  Im not sure what you think of when you think of "angst", but what comes to my mind is a 15 year old writing poetry convinced that no one gets him/her. 

I do have to agree with others that it might be difficult for him to be possessive of another person, based on his previous life


Even though this isn't directed at me, when I thing of "angsty" I don't get the teenager feel.  Personally, I feel that he would be more...solitary, I guess.  I'm not entirely sure how to describe it.  Just...the part about how he's in a new place with no friends, it's understandable that he would be distant and closed off.  I think that the whole "people don't get me" thing comes into play, for me at least, more in terms of he doesn't necessarily understand people or how to interact well with them because he was a slave for so long.  Sorry if that didn't make much sense.  I'm having a hard time trying to explain what I mean for "angsty".  Maybe i need to use another word?


You actually had me go off to the dictionary to get the definition (not a fan of doing this, but maybe it'll help :)

a feeling of dread, anxiety, or anguish.


So, if one (ie. Fenris) is "angsty" that would mean he would go around with consumed (in my interpretation of the word into a characteristic) with dread, anxiety, or anguish.  While I could certainly see him experiencing these emotions, I don't see them as defining him...