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[tankgirly]

@Falls Edge, trust BioWare, they know what they are doing.







Especially when Fenris is created by David Gaider.

[Falls Edge]

I guess you're right, I mean a sociopathic killer who is obsessed with cupcakes and cookies restored my faith in their character writing.

[tankgirly]

Falls Edge wrote...

I guess you're right, I mean a sociopathic killer who is obsessed with cupcakes and cookies restored my faith in their character writing.

Sten? Fenris is nothing like Sten.

Alright, perhaps just 1%.

I am not worry (happily crossing another day off from her calendar).

[Falls Edge]

Really? Everything points to him either being a cloud look alike who the writers will ocassionally make fun of, or someone whos appearance is completely opposite their personality (like sten) with a difficult moral problem being shoved under the rug in favor of haircuts, or something similar.

[MorningBird]

tankgirly wrote...

Sten? Fenris is nothing like Sten.

Alright, perhaps just 1%.

I am not worry (happily crossing another day off from her calendar).

I'm actually hoping he's like, 30% Sten, 30% Zen, and 40% original character.

[tankgirly]

MorningBird wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

Sten? Fenris is nothing like Sten.

Alright, perhaps just 1%.

I am not worry (happily crossing another day off from her calendar).

I'm actually hoping he's like, 30% Sten, 30% Zen, and 40% original character.

To me, since he was inspired by Valen. I was hopping he was 1% Sten, 49% Valen, 50% Original.



EDIT:
Great Art Found:



By Tamyn. :wub::wub::wub:

Modifié par tankgirly, 01 février 2011 - 05:37 .

[Tamyn]

I was just about to post that. DA link

[MorningBird]

Tamyn wrote...

I was just about to post that. DA link

Yooooou are awesome in many ways.  *oogles picture*

[Falls Edge]

I think i've just gotten a bit hyped up when it comes to characters in unique settings, I tend to see a world and all the things that it could offer a character and then they turn out to be infused with the soul of cardboard and the experience and emotional range of a recently forged tea spoon.

[tankgirly]

@Falls Edge, trust the Oracle .

Tamyn wrote...

I was just about to post that. DA link

My apology. Stalker instinct kicked in.

Modifié par tankgirly, 01 février 2011 - 05:50 .

[Collider]

There's little we know so far that would make me doubt the quality of how Fenris is written. The "doesn't like to be touched" may be an interesting challenge, though. I wonder if DA2 will follow the same LI archetypes that DA:O did.

[Lucy Glitter]

FEN PREVIEW IN DEMO PLZ?



THANKS BW LUV YA MWAH MWAH XX

[MorningBird]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

FEN PREVIEW IN DEMO PLZ?

THANKS BW LUV YA MWAH MWAH XX

THIS. :whistle:I AGREE WITH IT.

[Morning808]

He can be intresting but if he turns out to be a wuss guess he won't be in my party

[Addai]

tankgirly wrote...

MorningBird wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

Sten? Fenris is nothing like Sten.

Alright, perhaps just 1%.

I am not worry (happily crossing another day off from her calendar).

I'm actually hoping he's like, 30% Sten, 30% Zen, and 40% original character.

To me, since he was inspired by Valen. I was hopping he was 1% Sten, 49% Valen, 50% Original.



EDIT:
Great Art Found:

*snip*

By Tamyn. :wub::wub::wub:

Ooh.  I like.

[Addai]

Falls Edge wrote...

I am very worried about this character, he seems to have been put in to appease a certain demographic instead of for meaningful plot advancement, I'm probably wrong though, but the name 'Fenris' seems to imply that I'm right.
That said I hope that you guys avoid the comedic route of having him reply in a dead pan tone and reacting to situations in ridiculous ways, and that you accurately try to convey the kind of frustration that would lead someone off the deep end because of problems expressing oneself.

??  And what does the name Fenris have to do with anything?  Someone please decode the subtext here, I'm lost.

And, such a pessimistic view.

[Falls Edge]

Fenris is a monster wolf from nordic methology, an english-sub culture denotes wolves as lone solitary creatures even though they work in pacts. This is because of the demonization of them spread mostly by farmers in early days, the wolves ate their livestock.

They were hunted close to endangerment, so it could be considered that he is 'wronged' in a way so as to imply he is a tragic hero.

It's quite a bit of subtext, my apologies.

Edit: On second thought there's a lot more to this then just what I wrote, but it all goes back to gothic, lonely, wise creatures, who've been wronged in some way, the bit about him being a slave is obviously a reference to fenrir/fenris, so I know that this is the hound/wolf they're talking about.

Edit#2 Also, if you couldn't tell what my edit meant it all points directly to what sten was, a caged/bound man who had a tragedy befall him, he says ocassional wisdom who seemed 'dour' and had a lot of that solitude vibe going on, that said I really appreciate the time he refused my trivial questions about his race and culture, I hope if nothing else that Fenris has that kind of attitude towards me, but that's about as much as I'm expecting from him.

Sten murdering a family was not cool, and how they disregarded it cuz he lost his sword and there's differences in cultures was a thinly veiled excuse for bad character writing, the fact Fenris resembles him does not bode well.
There's also a bit of predictibility to his character a slaver is chasing him, and, like odin it's likely that fenris will 'eat' the slaver and his men for past wrongs(you'll help) and I think the writers will succumb to temptation to make poor jokes about his emotionally dead state, like Sten with his cookies and cupcakes.
Also, the fact he doesn't like to be touched implies he's either been raped or beaten repeatedly, but maybe that's streching it a bit far.

Modifié par Falls Edge, 01 février 2011 - 07:28 .

[Addai]

We don't know what the name symbolizes in the game, however. At other times when people have speculated about a DA character's name Gaider said he just made it up.  In this case he said it does mean something but we have no idea what.  Fen'Harel is an elven god, it could as well be related to that, or it could be Tevinter something or other.

Even though I disagree with you about Sten, he was written by a different writer and is... well, he's Qunari, not Tevinter elven. Just because both are stoic male warriors, it seems like you want to draw a lot of inferences. Also just because you think there is "predictability" doesn't mean it's going to turn out that way. Zevran was your typical bisexual elf and Alistair your typical knight in shining armor, except they weren't.

Have a little faith.

Modifié par Addai67, 01 février 2011 - 07:42 .

[tankgirly]

Addai67 wrote...

We don't know what the name symbolizes in the game, however. At other times when people have speculated about a DA character's name Gaider said he just made it up.  In this case he said it does mean something but we have no idea what.  Fen'Harel is an elven god, it could as well be related to that, or it could be Tevinter something or other.

Even though I disagree with you about Sten, he wasn't written by a different writer and is... well, he's Qunari, not Tevinter elven. Just because both are stoic male warriors, it seems like you want to draw a lot of inferences. Also just because you think there is "predictability" doesn't mean it's going to turn out that way. Zevran was your typical bisexual elf and Alistair your typical knight in shining armor, except they weren't.

Have a little faith.

Exactly what I've been trying to said.:happy:

[Falls Edge]

Okay, I will but I'm pretty much sure that you're going to beat that slaver up for putting Fenris through hell, and that he was sexually/physically abused, because that's what sells the big beans, they're relatively easy to pull off.

The one thing I'm looking forward to about his character is how it will be affected by the lythium, they sure are making that more and more relevent aren't they? It is interesting to me at least.

I enjoy speculating about this, but I'll stop now, we'll see what he's like when the game comes out.

Modifié par Falls Edge, 01 février 2011 - 07:53 .

[Absafraginlootly]

Falls Edge wrote...

*snip*

There's also a bit of predictibility to his character a slaver is chasing him, and, like odin it's likely that fenris will 'eat' the slaver and his men for past wrongs(you'll help)

*snip*

Brave New Theory, Fenris = Cannibal

In his side qest he will teach hawke all the wonders of gourmet cooking of elves, humans and dwarves.

[fighterchick]

Falls Edge wrote...

Okay, I will but I'm pretty much sure that you're going to beat that slaver up for putting Fenris through hell, and that he was sexually/physically abused, because that's what sells the big beans, they're relatively easy to pull off.

The one thing I'm looking forward to about his character is how it will be affected by the lythium, they sure are making that more and more relevent aren't they? It is interesting to me at least.

I enjoy speculating about this, but I'll stop now, we'll see what he's like when the game comes out.

The no touching thing, I think, relates back to his lyrium branding being painful to the touch.

[Miserysky]

Falls Edge wrote...

Fenris is a monster wolf from nordic methology
...
Also, the fact he doesn't like to be touched implies he's either been raped or beaten repeatedly, but maybe that's streching it a bit far.

I understand not reading this entire monster thread, but all of your "ideas" have already been brought up and discussed, and mostly dismissed by the Bioware team (Fenrir, werewolf theory, etc).  That's not really anything new here.  Also, Thedas isn't earth, so yeah.

Also, the last comment is just ridiculous.  He has lyrium brands on his skin that hurt when touched, that's why he is adverse to it according to Gaider. *ninja'd*

Also likening to Cloud is really narrowminded.  Ignore the hair if it really turns you off to the character that much.  It seems the devs have taken great lengths to create a very interesting character here.  I would recommend clicking the Bioware icon under this thread and read what Gaider wrote about creating a character with a hook.  It might help.

Modifié par Miserysky, 01 février 2011 - 07:58 .

[Falls Edge]

Ah, I see I couldn't read the whole thing so I apologise for not knowing those had already been discussed.

I'm not simplifying the cloud thing, just stating that his appearance appeals to a demographic I wasn't implying that his personality would be similar we've already seen another character who's been exposed to lythium in the mage tower, so we know his character won't be anything like cloud's except for the whole amnisia thing and his general character design.

Also, I'll read that gaider post, thanks.

Edit:
Gaider:
"I wouldn't make too big a deal of his touch-causes-pain thing. It's more of an aversion than actual physical agony. You'll see when you play, though honestly he doesn't dwell on it at all. It's not central to his story."

I was wrong .

Modifié par Falls Edge, 01 février 2011 - 08:22 .

[Miserysky]

Don't apologize. This thread is massive! Gaider has said a lot of interesting things along the way. It makes for a good read. Although hints are given to this character, unfortunately not a lot of the mystery has been unraveled! I guess that's what keeps us lingering....the potential of it all.