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[upsettingshorts]

obsessedwjpn wrote...

Therefore, both opinions are defendable so let's just all accept eachother's differences and get along, shall we?

Well ultimately I'd say both positions are relatively indefensible, but as long as we recognise what we're doing is speculating wildly - in a "positive" or "negative" way - that's fine.  As far as getting along, I think Wynne is overstating the disharmony that resulted from that discussion.  There was a tangentially related argument regarding another issue that I think while heated, produced a positive outcome. 

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 04 février 2011 - 11:57 .

[obsessedwjpn]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

obsessedwjpn wrote...

Therefore, both opinions are defendable so let's just all accept eachother's differences and get along, shall we?

Well ultimately I'd say both positions are relatively indefensible, but as long as we recognise what we're doing is speculating wildly - in a "positive" or "negative" way - that's fine.  As far as getting along, I think Wynne is overstating the disharmony that resulted from that discussion.  There was a tangentially related argument regarding another issue that I think while heated, produced a positive outcome. 

You just love to disagree with people's statements don't you? haha:lol:
I am just saying let's all just enjoy what we are here for, to talk about the game and just have fun.

[upsettingshorts]

obsessedwjpn wrote...
You just love to disagree with people's statements don't you? haha

It does have a certain appeal.

[Fenn_]

Jaarlitar wrote...

Okey, here goes or nothing...



Also drew my Lady Hawke, Rhea.



Couldn't really get his hair right, though

I like them and I think the hair looks fine even if it's not exactly like his wish I could draw as well as you do.

[Dr. Doctor]

Band on the Run:
(Hawke and company are on the run from Templars in the streets of Lowtown. After losing their pursuers Hawke and Fenris hide in an alleyway.)

Fenris: (sighs) Why are we running from Templars? I thought you said that the Viscount's Letter of Marque gave you total freedom in the city?

Hawke: It doesn't matter. When the damn zealots see a mage that doesn't genuflect before them they tend to get a bit cranky.

Fenris: You don't care for the Circle and its methods?

Hawke: I grew up hearing tales about my family. Tales of Parthalan, who helped to unite Ferelden under King Calenhad. Tales of how my father gave his life for his family. They both carried on the dream of a day when mages could walk freely through Thedas, without being the slaves of an uncaring Chantry. Unfortuately, ignorant sods like Meredith and her cronies don't quite like that idea, so they bully and torment those who escape their grasp.

Fenris: They only seek to keep the use of magic in check. In Tevinter, the power of the Magisters runs rampant, the people suffer, no one should hold dominion like that.

Hawke: I agree with you on that, magic to me is a gift that can be used to help other people. Yet the Chantry depicts those not in its custody as madmen who seek the downfall of all that is right and good in the world. Look at Merrill, she's the sweetest woman in all of Thedas, and yet we had to get Aveline and the City Guard to keep her from being burnt at the stake by the Templars. I just want to be able to live in peace without having to-

Fenris: Run anymore?

Hawke: Exactly, see I knew there was a reason why we get along.

Fenris: Well despite the fact that you are a mage, you're someone else who knows what its like to be, hunted. Its refreshing to know that I'm not alone anymore. (Fenris hears the telltale sound of armoured boots striking the ground and draws his blade as he turns around to see who is coming he finds himself face to face with Meredith)

Meredith: We meet again Hawke. Please tell your servant to stand down.

Hawke: He is no servant this man in a part of my retinue as dictated by the Viscount. His Letter of Marque clealy states-

Meredith: Nothing of the sort. You are an apostate, no fancy papers can shield you from justice. The words of the Viscout ring hollow, he remains in power simply because my superiors allow it, you remain free because I allow it, there is now power that can hide what you are apostate, for mine is the highest power in the land.

Hawke: (clenching fist) You are a tyrant, you treat honest men and women with magic as criminals, and incarcerate them for crimes that they have not committed. You and the rest of your followers are lauded as heroes when all you are Meredith are thugs with inflated egos. Someone should put you in your place.

Meredith: Try me apostate, I have brought those with more bravado to their knees. You will know- (finds that Fenris is now holding his blade to her neck)

Fenris: As have I. Right now you have a choice Templar, call off your lackeys and we will leave in peace whist you may leave with your bravado undamaged. However I must warn you that while I can also offer you a quick death, my friend here may not be so accomodating.

Meredith: You dare to threated a Knight-Commander? You will release me at once, you do not know what you trifle with elf.

Fenris: (deadpan)  Neither do you. Have you ever faced a Magister of the Tevinter Imperium? Few have, and even fewer have lived to tell the tale. However I have had such an experience, and I have killed many men who march in the name of one such man. They know what I am, and yet they continue to march to their deaths. Do you in your ignorance seek the same fate? (Draws the blade closer to Meredith's neck)

Meredith: No. (yelling out to her men) There's no one here! Tell the men to break off the searches in this area and redouble the efforts in Undertown! (To Hawke) We will meet again apostate, perhaps next time you won't need an elf to protect you.

Hawke: Good day Knight-Commander. (sees Meredith walk away) And good riddance.

Fenris: (Sheathing sword) That was quite an spirited conversation. Might I recomend returing to Hightown? Someplace where the Viscount's men can keep the Templars out of our hair?

Hawke: Good idea, I've had enough running for one day.

Modifié par Dr. Doctor, 05 février 2011 - 04:38 .

[tankgirly]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

Band on the Run:
(Hawke and company are on the run from Templars in the streets of Lowtown. After losing their pursuers Hawke and Fenris hide in an alleyway.)

Fenris: (sighs) Why are we running from Templars? I thought you said that the Viscount's Letter of Marque gave you total freedom in the city?

Hawke: It doesn't matter. When the damn zealots see a mage that doesn't genuflect before them they tend to get a bit cranky.

Fenris: You don't care for the Circle and its methods?

Hawke: I grew up hearing tales about my family. Tales of Parthalan, who helped to unite Ferelden under King Calenhad. Tales of how my father gave his life for his family. They both carried on the dream of a day when mages could walk freely through Thedas, without being the slaves of an uncaring Chantry. Unfortuately, ignorant sods like Meredith and her cronies don't quite like that idea, so they bully and torment those who escape their grasp.

Fenris: They only seek to keep the use of magic in check. In Tevinter, the power of the Magisters runs rampant, the people suffer, no one should hold dominion like that.

Hawke: I agree with you on that, magic to me is a gift that can be used to help other people. Yet the Chantry depicts those not in its custody as madmen who seek the downfall of all that is right and good in the world. Look at Merrill, she's the sweetest woman in all of Thedas, and yet we had to get Aveline and the City Guard to keep her from being burnt at the stake by the Templars. I just want to be able to live in peace without having to-

Fenris: Run anymore?

Hawke: Exactly, see I knew there was a reason why we get along.

Fenris: Well despite the fact that you are a mage, you're someone else who knows what its like to be, hunted. Its refreshing to know that I'm not alone anymore. (Fenris hears the telltale sound of armoured boots striking the ground and draws his blade as he turns around to see who is coming he finds himself face to face with Meredith)

Meredith: We meet again Hawke. Please tell your servant to stand down.

Hawke: He is no servant this man in a part of my retinue as dictated by the Viscount. His Letter of Marque clealy states-

Meredith: Nothing of the sort. You are an apostate, no fancy papers can shield you from justice. The words of the Viscout ring hollow, he remains in power simply because my superiors allow it, you remain free because I allow it, there is now power that can hide what you are apostate, for mine is the highest power in the land.

Hawke: (clenching fist) You are a tyrant, you treat honest men and women with magic as criminals, and incarcerate them for crimes that they have not committed. You and the rest of your followers are lauded as heroes when all you are Meredith are thugs with inflated egos. Someone should put you in your place.

Meredith: Try me apostate, I have brought those with more bravado to their knees. You will know- (finds that Fenris is now holding his blade to her neck)

Fenris: As have I. Right now you have a choice Templar, call off your lackeys and we will leave in peace whist you may leave with your bravado undamaged. However I must warn you that while I can also offer you a quick death, my friend here may not be so accomodating.

Meredith: You dare to threated a Knight-Commander? You will release me at once, you do not know what you trifle with elf.

Fenris: (deadpan)  Neither do you. Have you ever faced a Magister of the Tevinter Imperium? Few have, and even fewer have lived to tell the tale. However I have had such an experience, and I have killed many men who march in the name of one such man. They know what I am, and yet they continue to march to their deaths. Do you in your ignorance seek the same fate? (Draws the blade closer to Meredith's neck)

Meredith: No. (yelling out to her men) There's no one here! Tell the men to break off the searches in this area and redouble the efforts in Undertown! (To Hawke) We will meet again apostate, perhaps next time you won't need an elf to protect you.

Hawke: Good day Knight-Commander. (sees Meredith walk away) And good riddance.

Fenris: (Sheathing sword) That was quite an spirited conversation. Might I recomend returing to Hightown? Someplace where the Viscount's men can keep the Templars out of our hair?

Hawke: Good idea, I've had enough running for one day.

Filed.

[Josielyn]

I hate to say it, but the artists made him look just a little bit evil. Does Fenris have an EVIL side? Will we get to see it?

[Dr. Doctor]

Still riding the Rock and Roll Train:

Isabela:

(Whilst in the markets of Hightown, Isabela spies the familiar face of her old first mate Casavir, who is now clad in the flamboyant attire of a captain of the Antivan merchant fleet. Not wanting to appear as the shipless, crewless pirate that she currently is Isabela enlists some help.)

Isabela: (grabs Fenris on the shoulder and kisses him deeply)

Fenris: (slightly shocked) Isabela what in the Maker's name was- (Isabela places her hand over Fenris' mouth)

Isabela: See that man in the garrish outfit over there? He was the first mate back on my ship, he's a captain now. Now a simple man like you might not realize this, but image is everything to people like him and I, and right now I have no ship or treasure to boast about right now. But good old Casavir doesn't need to know that. So what I need you to do for me is to pretend that you are my new handsome, exotic, first mate.

Fenris: Then what was the kiss for? I am quite sure that Hawke would castrate me if he ever found out that...(Isabela places a finger on Fenris' lips silencing him)

Isabela: Look, if you help me I will consider it as a favor that you did for me. I return favors, so if there is ever anything that I can help with just ask. As for Hawke, he's...much too sweet for me to treat him like some kind of trophy, despite his heroic status, he's not exactly...the most conventional boyfriend for a woman like myself to have. The kiss was to help sell the story get it?

Fenris: i do not appreciate being treated like some kind of trophy, or plaything for your amusement.

Isabela: (sighs) Maker, you sound just like Casavir. Oh well, that's something that I will never have to remedy, so come along, I'll introduce you.

Casavir: Isabela,you old sea hag! It's been a while since I last saw you!

Isabela: Casavir! Look at you! Its good to see that you went from being a waste of space to a profitable waste of space!

Casavir: (lauging) Ah, its good to see that your tongue remains as sharp as ever captain. (noticing Fenris) My, my, it looks like you've found yourself some fresh meat. Who's the elf.

Isabela: (wrapping an arm around Fenris' shoulders) Cas, this is Fenris, my new first mate. Picked him up in a Tevinter bar. He's one hell of a swordsman, flexible, strong, agile, I once saw him fend off half a maniple of this Magister's soldiers with nothing but a rusty dagger.

Casavir: (impressed whistle) Sounds like one hell of a man Izzy. Hey, some of the lads from the old days are down at the tavern, why don't you stop in and shake things up a bit? We'll be right behind you.

Isabela: Sounds good, as long as you're the one who's buying. (starts walking to the Tavern)

Casavir: So, Fenris. How is the old boss lady these days? She still the terror of two coasts?

Fenris: Profits are on the rise. The captain is rather generous when it comes to handing out dividends.

Casavir: (eyeing up Isabela) I'm sure she is. The years have certainly been kind to her. Your a lucky man to be maning her helm.

Fenris: I am her first mate, not her helmsman.

Casavir: (laughing) Ah, so your quite serious, I never thought that Isabela would be one for a serious second, but she's had stranger intrests. I remember that one time where she...

Fenris: (whispering into Isabela's ear) You owe me for this.

[HolyJellyfish]

Pseudocognition wrote...

Wynne wrote...
No, that's actually not odd in the slightest. It's called having an intriguing design and fascinating concept in a game with romances available. Saying "I am invested in this character because the information given and design shown interest me" is nowhere near as strange as saying "even though I have no idea how damaged this character is because no clear sign has been given as to how damaged it is, this character is still obviously too damaged for a romance."

As to the 'discussion', there is a rather large difference between discussing something and cautioning the children that they'd best realize this is very serious business and nobody should be romancing someone with this many issues--as if "that many issues" actually was a known fact. The person in question said "he can't even be touched without punching someone," which was a plainly inaccurate and exaggerated assessment of what was said by developers.  That was what I was objecting to, and forgive me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you've been around long enough to have gotten that. Same with you, Pseudocog. Neither of you strike me as the type who doesn't read very well.

When people discuss the idea of something being the case, rather than saying "I hope he's not a romance because he IS too messed up," the former is fine, even interesting, while the latter is obnoxious. Period.

Please, feel free to discuss Fenris being as screwed up as you like, I will read it and even weigh in, but I ask that you not throw my words back at me when all I want is is for people to step back and think before they make declarations like, "Fenris is simply too damaged for a romance." That is precisely as fallacious a statement as "Fenris is absolutely fine." The point is, we. do. not. know. And yet, since the former may hurt feelings whereas the latter absolutely cannot, one would think a little sensitivity is called for.

Ah, well. Since this is the internet, maybe I'm hoping for too much. But I've come to expect a certain level of friendliness and understanding from this thread, and trying to slam the door on the idea of him being an LI before we have any real idea of the viableness of that hope strikes me as simply rude to those who are still optimistic, and create works of art and fanfiction to that effect. So yes, I took offense--only to the lack of sensitivity, not to the idea of Fenris being too damaged. The latter, I could handle, both as a thought and if it was the reality.

Exactly. We don't know. We don't know one way or the other. All we do know are like ten sentances that all describe someone who at the very least will have some issues. We can't doubt that he's a LI when all we know about him is his torture-and-amnesia backstory? We're not being mean or insensitive, we're inferring based on the presented evidence and trying to guess how it would effect him and Hawke and everybody else.

Well, I do know one thing. The designers certainly decided to take a chunk out of their digital illustration programs and created one hunk of gorgeous, tanned, well muscled, stoic, smirking, perfectly proportional beautiful piece of male meat that is effectively Fenris.

ETA: All we know about him are things that either indicate issues (aversion to physical contact) or would result in psychological issues (branding, amnesia etc.). There's more evidence for him being a little messed up than not*. Since the theme in here is FENRIS LI   it's all we can really do to speculate how that history would affect his relationship building skills.

*Also, he's a Dragon Age character.

And the fact that he is one hunk of gorgeous, tanned, well muscled, stoic, smirking, perfectly proportional beautiful piece of male meat effectively called 'Fenris'.

If there are fangirls/boys out there who are anticipating a little piece of LI, I ain't gonna call them crazy. That boy is too damn attractively designed. There is no way in high heaven he COULDN'T be an LI. Its a game. A bioware game. All signs are indicating the beautiful hunk of man-elf with a mysterious past is most likely gonna be an LI.

In fact, I'd venture to say that the crazy people are those who don't believe he is gonna be LI.

Seriously. Look at that muscle definition and his face! Look at that face! Now look back at me! How can he NOT be LI?

I'm totally on your side and Wynne's, and I totally don't think Fenris fangirls/boys are crazy. Not with this logic in mind.

He's too... PRETTY.

[raziel3080]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

Wynne wrote...
No, that's actually not odd in the slightest. It's called having an intriguing design and fascinating concept in a game with romances available. Saying "I am invested in this character because the information given and design shown interest me" is nowhere near as strange as saying "even though I have no idea how damaged this character is because no clear sign has been given as to how damaged it is, this character is still obviously too damaged for a romance."

As to the 'discussion', there is a rather large difference between discussing something and cautioning the children that they'd best realize this is very serious business and nobody should be romancing someone with this many issues--as if "that many issues" actually was a known fact. The person in question said "he can't even be touched without punching someone," which was a plainly inaccurate and exaggerated assessment of what was said by developers.  That was what I was objecting to, and forgive me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you've been around long enough to have gotten that. Same with you, Pseudocog. Neither of you strike me as the type who doesn't read very well.

When people discuss the idea of something being the case, rather than saying "I hope he's not a romance because he IS too messed up," the former is fine, even interesting, while the latter is obnoxious. Period.

Please, feel free to discuss Fenris being as screwed up as you like, I will read it and even weigh in, but I ask that you not throw my words back at me when all I want is is for people to step back and think before they make declarations like, "Fenris is simply too damaged for a romance." That is precisely as fallacious a statement as "Fenris is absolutely fine." The point is, we. do. not. know. And yet, since the former may hurt feelings whereas the latter absolutely cannot, one would think a little sensitivity is called for.

Ah, well. Since this is the internet, maybe I'm hoping for too much. But I've come to expect a certain level of friendliness and understanding from this thread, and trying to slam the door on the idea of him being an LI before we have any real idea of the viableness of that hope strikes me as simply rude to those who are still optimistic, and create works of art and fanfiction to that effect. So yes, I took offense--only to the lack of sensitivity, not to the idea of Fenris being too damaged. The latter, I could handle, both as a thought and if it was the reality.

Exactly. We don't know. We don't know one way or the other. All we do know are like ten sentances that all describe someone who at the very least will have some issues. We can't doubt that he's a LI when all we know about him is his torture-and-amnesia backstory? We're not being mean or insensitive, we're inferring based on the presented evidence and trying to guess how it would effect him and Hawke and everybody else.

Well, I do know one thing. The designers certainly decided to take a chunk out of their digital illustration programs and created one hunk of gorgeous, tanned, well muscled, stoic, smirking, perfectly proportional beautiful piece of male meat that is effectively Fenris.

ETA: All we know about him are things that either indicate issues (aversion to physical contact) or would result in psychological issues (branding, amnesia etc.). There's more evidence for him being a little messed up than not*. Since the theme in here is FENRIS LI   it's all we can really do to speculate how that history would affect his relationship building skills.

*Also, he's a Dragon Age character.

And the fact that he is one hunk of gorgeous, tanned, well muscled, stoic, smirking, perfectly proportional beautiful piece of male meat effectively called 'Fenris'.

If there are fangirls/boys out there who are anticipating a little piece of LI, I ain't gonna call them crazy. That boy is too damn attractively designed. There is no way in high heaven he COULDN'T be an LI. Its a game. A bioware game. All signs are indicating the beautiful hunk of man-elf with a mysterious past is most likely gonna be an LI.

In fact, I'd venture to say that the crazy people are those who don't believe he is gonna be LI.

Seriously. Look at that muscle definition and his face! Look at that face! Now look back at me! How can he NOT be LI?

I'm totally on your side and Wynne's, and I totally don't think Fenris fangirls/boys are crazy. Not with this logic in mind.

He's too... PRETTY.

ROTFLMAOOOO!

I agree with all of 3...as a man, even I can tell he's bishounen( which is basically what the japanese call a male piece of ***) type of character. With that basis alone I would say he is an LI... just how to get to that point with him..is a WHOLE nother story and debate, that will be played out in the game itself...

[Tamyn]

Yep.

[Leonia]

And the fact that he is one hunk of gorgeous, tanned, well muscled, stoic, smirking, perfectly proportional beautiful piece of male meat effectively called 'Fenris'.

I disagree. I also am horrified by the term "male meat".

[mellifera]

Sounds gross. Do you have to keep it frozen?

[raziel3080]

This is why I refer to him as a bishounen...

Modifié par raziel3080, 05 février 2011 - 08:05 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

But his meat has too many preservatives in it. Not healthy for you. But maybe ok in a stew of some sort. In small quantities.  To last awhile

Perhaps it would be good on a pasta, with bread of course.  Have to have bread and pasta.  Or not if you are trying to trim down since the meat probably is high on calories.

Modifié par Onyx Jaguar, 05 février 2011 - 08:54 .

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

HolyJellyfish wrote...
And the fact that he is one hunk of gorgeous, tanned, well muscled, stoic, smirking, perfectly proportional beautiful piece of male meat effectively called 'Fenris'.

If there are fangirls/boys out there who are anticipating a little piece of LI, I ain't gonna call them crazy. That boy is too damn attractively designed. There is no way in high heaven he COULDN'T be an LI. Its a game. A bioware game. All signs are indicating the beautiful hunk of man-elf with a mysterious past is most likely gonna be an LI.

In fact, I'd venture to say that the crazy people are those who don't believe he is gonna be LI.

Seriously. Look at that muscle definition and his face! Look at that face! Now look back at me! How can he NOT be LI?

I'm totally on your side and Wynne's, and I totally don't think Fenris fangirls/boys are crazy. Not with this logic in mind.

He's too... PRETTY.

Um, while I am extraordinarily put off by your description, sure he's good looking. But they've got a very good looking bunch this time around, and characters yet to be revealed. They've also said they're doing 'something different' with the romances whatever that means. So pardon some of us for shelving the squees for now and preferring to talk about what we do know. Which is... possibly involuntary body modification, slavery and amnesia, also creepy stalker master on the hunt. Immediate problems that I think a few are more fascinated by than whether you can bed him. Maybe some of those problems might not be able to overlap with romance right away without treading into weird unhealthy territory, depending on how affected by it all he is. So... yeah. That's my position and, I think, that of the others who come in here and rain on the parade.

As for my 'side', there's too much potential for psychological coolness and deep questions and moral grey area for me to care right now whether he is a LI. I like his nose and the bare feet are cute but I'm not going to e-lust for him when everything we know about him is tragic backstory, not that I'm one to e-lust publically in any case.

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 05 février 2011 - 10:06 .

[Collider]

Huh, interesting conversation.

[nightcobra]

 here's a bit of dialog for fenris i came up with:wizard:

*fenris is sitting at the table shown in the dev diary and aveline comes into the room*


Aveline: fenris, you came...

Fenris: how could i not? you had me sent here after the battle against the coterie.

Aveline: i hope my recruits didn't give you too much trouble.

Fenris: hmph, those amateurs? i'm surprised that kirkwall hasn't fallen yet.

Aveline: they're good kids, even if a bit misguided...

Fenris: you didn't send me here to talk about them did you? what is really going on?

Aveline: i've received reports from varric's contacts that a magister has been seen looking for a particular elf.

Fenris: What, he's here?! *gets up from table*

Aveline: i want you to keep low for a while. leave this to the city guard

Fenris: i swore the next time i'd see him, he wouldn't be left alive. it seems my warning wasn't enough for him to leave me alone.
i'll have to confront him again.

Aveline: i'm sorry but i can't let you do that.

Fenris: What, why?!

Aveline: have you forgotten your battle against the coterie? a good number of civilians were caught in the battle and lost their lives, as long as i'm part of the city guard i won't allow any more of this.

Fenris: *curses in tevinter and goes towards the door* 

Aveline: if you go through with this i won't be able to protect you. 

Fenris: i don't need any protection.

Aveline: what about hawke?

Fenris: does he/she know about this?

Aveline:....

Fenris:....I see, tell him/her that i've enjoyed my time adventuring with him/her.

i'm done running. *goes out the door*

[lnicol1900]

Okay, I'm going to join the LI discussion.

I agree that we don't have enough information to make an educated guess on whether Fenris is a LI or not. We can speculate, hope, and theorise, but we don't have enough solid evidence to even point us in a direction.

I think it's fair enough to say that, from what the devs have told us and his character page, he's probably going to have a few issues. From the experiments performed on him by the magister, him having problems getting close to others, both physically and emotionally, sounds very likely in my opinion.

As for whether those issues will inhibit him from forming a romance with Hawke, or just making the romance more interesting, I have a feeling that the devs are quite litterally going to make us wait until the game comes out. And, I personally don't mind. I may go on info blackout soon anyway.

Regardless of if he's a LI or not, Fenris is undoubtably going to be a really interesting character. I was astounded with the depth of many characters of DA:O, and I'm certain that DA2 will be no different.

@Dr Doctor: I love your dialogues, as always.
@nightcobra8928: Very interesting dialogue. It would certainly be interesting if soomething like that happened in the game.
@tankgirly: There's a couple of prompts on page 559 that you haven't filed.

[Collider]

Well said, inicol.

[GameBoyish]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

But his meat has too many preservatives in it. Not healthy for you. But maybe ok in a stew of some sort. In small quantities.  To last awhile

Perhaps it would be good on a pasta, with bread of course.  Have to have bread and pasta.  Or not if you are trying to trim down since the meat probably is high on calories.

The lyrium may prove poisonous

[nightcobra]

@lnicol1900 glad you liked it:)

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 05 février 2011 - 01:44 .

[Maugrim]

I already didn't like Fenris much, but now I'm afaid I'm going to have to outright kill him.  Something nice, painful and slow like a stomach wound....yes that will do  *shudders with barely contained fury and rage*

Hey put the pitchfork and torches down right now and hear me out!  I can explain and I have a feeling many of you would agree with my decision!
You see I literally just woke up from a nightmare  minutes ago and...Fenris was sleeping with my mother   This is the first DA dream I've ever had and that fruity little elf had to be in it and fornicating with my mother.  Dead man walking!

LOL but seriously I thought you guys would find that even a non Fenris fan would have a sex dream of sorts about him funny.   At the moment the memory is literally so fresh that I am shaking as I right this.  Stupid elf dies!!!!

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 05 février 2011 - 02:15 .

[Collider]

That is quite the strange dream.

[Xewaka]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...
Have to have bread and pasta

This is always true, regardless of context. A kitchen must always have bread, pasta, rice, canned tuna, and potatoes handy. Good, long-lasting (save the bread, but come on, which household doesn't consume a bread bar a day), quality foodstuff.

Modifié par Xewaka, 05 février 2011 - 02:22 .