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[La_Duchessa]

bsbcaer wrote...

La_Duchessa wrote...

Lleyta Black wrote...

Of the 3 possible Lady Hawke LI's, my guess for who isn't is Varric. Partly because I want Anders and Fenris

This...

If you don't mind me asking, any particular reason?

Of course I don't mind you asking. Its because to me hight is an issue in wether or not I find a guy attractive. Even if Varric is the most attractive dwarf that we have seen thus far, he just doesnt do it 4 me.
He will be Hawkes BFF, nothing more.

Modifié par La_Duchessa, 10 février 2011 - 03:58 .

[Lleyta Black]

bsbcaer wrote...

Lleyta Black wrote...

I'm going purely on who I think will survive the LI chopping block. I don't think Varric has a chance of surviving against either Fenris or Anders on this point. Now if you want to go on has who I would PREFER, yes It would be Fenris and Anders. The "vertically impaired" thing probably has a lot to do with it. I could never romance Zev as a human cause she would look down upon him. However I romanced Alistair several times as a elf.

Based on the thread we're in, I sort of get the Fenris thing...but, my apologies for dipping off topic again, why Anders/Vengeance over Varric?  It might just be me, but I don't see the appeal of romancing someone with multiple unique personalities that require concentration and control for the dominant personality (Anders) to remain dominant.  With Fenris, I can see the possible progression in the relationship (although I see it as much more a LONG TERM payoff, if any, relationship wise and I hope to see a more simple, touching (pardon the pun) physical ending rather than wham bam slam thank you maam), but I just don't see the Anders/Vengeance thing

Probably because I really liked Anders in Awakening. I know he's not going be the same but he is still Anders. Now don't get me wrong he wasn't my favorite Awakening character. Nathaniel was. But I still liked him.

I'm sorry but we'll have to continue this discussion later. Tis bedtime.

[Deliciously-Demonic]

I would love for Varric to an LI; I'm not a Varric fan-girl by any means, I just want to see how that would affect that narration. However, that's the problem for me. Because he's the narrator, I have doubts about a romance for him. Too bad.

I want them all three to be LIs, but if I had to pick two, Anders and Fenris would be my boys. Not that a tri-racial love triangle doesn't pique interest, but I feel that an Anders/Hawke/Fenris love triangle would be lovely. and because I want to see how a couple would over come the obstacles and issues that both men have.



What if you can marry your LI in-game? Wouldn't tha just be awesome?!

[Fenn_]

Fenris could be a little crazy but I can't judge for certain why he went temple of doom on that one guy.

[Maera Imrov]

Temple of Doom frightened me as a child. Perhaps that residual fear is why Fen's phase punch has disturbed me so.

[bsbcaer]

kwintessa wrote...

bsbcaer wrote...

Maera Imrov wrote...

Maybe she's a fixer. Like me. I like fixin' things. Electronics, people, even cars, if I had the tools and space for such an endeavor.

I get frustrated when I cannot help or fix the problems.

trying not to get off topic, so I'll start with Fenris.  It's the phasing thing that attracts you isn't it?? 

Now to my real question...Wouldn't you find it difficult/awkward/just plain weird to have a loving relationship with one person and have another completely unique person possibly come to the surface ('assuming direct control!") at any tme?

Reading that "Assuming direct control!" line in Harbinger's voice did not help anything, bsbcaer! Anyway, that would be pretty creepy. If we can indeed help Anders with his possession problem, it depends on how much time it will take, I think, for the romance to occur. If we were still in the situation of Awakening, which is the span of about a year, I doubt we'd have any relationship besides a sketchy friendship. Having ten years to "depossess" someone and perhaps still form a romantic relationship with them... I'm not making sense to myself any more. 

Well, what little we know, it sounds like a willing relationship merging between Anders and Justice based on a desire of both to be more active against the Chantry.  So, I kind of see things a little more like Venom from Marvel Comics with a symbiosis relationship.  Anders won't be willing to give up Vengeance until the Chantry is brought down and Vengeance sure isn't going to give up a willing human host.  So who's to say that either wants to be "depossessed".   Sounds like Jen Hepler came up with a hell of a character!

[Ceridwen]

yukidama wrote...

Uh, so do we?

Height ain't no thang. As pseudo put it:
*snip*

AWW he's so blissful his ponytail's a-quiver! Do want.

EDIT

Good point. Anders willingly accepted Justice and what happened was unintentional. Anders may not wish to let go of Vengeance so easily.

Modifié par kwintessa, 10 février 2011 - 04:04 .

[Dave of Canada]

Maera Imrov wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

I'm tall and even I'm offended when height is considered the reason why Varric shouldn't be a romance.

As much as personality is important, anyone saying physical 'spark' is not necessary in a relationship is more of an idealist than me. And I thought that was damn near impossible.

People have preferences in their mates. No one cries about sexism or being offended when someone says they prefer only one gender, so why should height or anything else matter? They are just preferences. We all have them. Why this one bothers so many people on this forum is beyond me.

When it's their reasoning and why we should -never- have a dwarf love interest? Of course, you can expect me to be offended. It's one thing to say you don't like a character for one thing, it's another for saying you don't want him at all because of it.

To use an extreme example, it's like that one guy that celebrated that Aveline wasn't a LI because he hates redheads and said they are ugly.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 10 février 2011 - 03:57 .

[Saibh]

yukidama wrote...

Uh, so do we?

Height ain't no thang. As pseudo put it:

Yuki, I know that you really like Varric and have to deal with a lot of crap from people who don't like him. That sucks. You have a lot vested in him, like most people here have something vested in DAII. But, sometimes, I wish that you wouldn't get so quick to be offended when people say things that could be construed as possibly derogatory towards Varric or dwarves.

I was saying I don't want Varric as a LI because he does not appeal to me. Nothing more. Nothing less. I was not saying you are wrong in having him appeal to you. But I'm allowed personal preferences.

Modifié par Saibh, 10 février 2011 - 03:59 .

[bsbcaer]

La_Duchessa wrote...

bsbcaer wrote...

La_Duchessa wrote...

Lleyta Black wrote...

Of the 3 possible Lady Hawke LI's, my guess for who isn't is Varric. Partly because I want Anders and Fenris

This...

If you don't mind me asking, any particular reason?

Of course I don't mind you asking. It because to me hight is an issue in wether or not I find a guy attractive. Even if Varic is the most attractive dwarf that we have seen thus far, he just doesnt do it 4 me.
He will be Hawkes BFF, nothing more.

Actually, I guess I should have been more specific.  I was asking not so much about "why not Varric" but more "why Anders and Fenris"?

[HolyJellyfish]

I think Varric may have a better chance for LI status. If only because Anders has that whole possessed by a demon might be an abomination deal thing going on.



Then again, I'm under the impression that Bioware is going to surprise us and reveal ALL the companions are romanceable. Four for girls, Four for guys.

[Ryzaki]

I need to see more. That punch has me backing up. He looks like well..a bit crazy. *backs slowly away*

Edit: Hasn't Aveline been confirmed not to be an LI? 

And the only females on Hawke's crew (at least that I know of) seem to be Merrilll, Bethany (can't romance due to be related), Isabela and Aveline.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 10 février 2011 - 04:00 .

[leggywillow]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

I think Varric may have a better chance for LI status. If only because Anders has that whole possessed by a demon might be an abomination deal thing going on.

Then again, I'm under the impression that Bioware is going to surprise us and reveal ALL the companions are romanceable. Four for girls, Four for guys.

::pops in::

Except Aveline was confirmed NOT to be a romance option earlier today.    So if I had to guess, I'd say we're looking at 2 of each gender (1 of which will be bisexual).

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

Fenn wrote...

Fenris could be a little crazy but I can't judge for certain why he went temple of doom on that one guy.

My theory:

In a previous clip, it looks like that guy was yelling at Hawke. When it goes to the other clip, he comes up behind Fenris, (to me) he looks like he's surprised to see him (like Fen's a random guy that's not supposed to be there) and as if he's asking him, "What are you doing here?" 

Either Hawke and co. (because if you look at the folks behind Hawke when Hawke's getting yelled at, you don't see Fenris-- It's Varric, Carver, and Aveline) are captured or in trouble and Fenris is coming to the rescue, taking out anyone that would get in his way, or the guy antagonized Hawke, antagonized him, or antagonized both of them in some highly offensive way, and Fenris decides the best option is to simply kill him.

=Edit=

I also wonder if that could be when we first meet Fenris.

Modifié par Madame Rose Crimsynn, 10 février 2011 - 04:03 .

[Maera Imrov]

I've never used my reasoning to imply he shouldn't be a LI. Height has no bearing on who Bioware should make available. It will, however, affect who I romance with my Hawke, which is a completely separate issue, and isn't anything anyone can pass judgment on. I don't think most people on this thread are even trying to say "He shouldn't be one because he's short!" but are more saying they really just don't go for short guys and wouldn't romance him even if he was there.



Hell, I couldn't care less if Varric was a LI, as that leaves Anders and Fenris and either one works for me.

[Tashash]

Ryzaki wrote...

I need to see more. That punch has me backing up. He looks like well..a bit crazy. *backs slowly away*

Context would be appreciated, as much as I love Fenris I would prefer him not to be a homicidal maniac.

[fighterchick]

I can understand why people don't want to romance Varric; being like 4'0'' isn't the most attractive thing to a lot of people. I get it, but I don't understand why people would get offended by that. A lot of people irl won't date a guy that's shorter than them, it's just the way things are.



Anyways, still firmly for Fenris/Varric as LI's, but I do understand why some would hate it if Varric was an LI.

[Kitterkat100]

one more page till 600. Wow and this is mostly wild spection on a shiny, complete rockin' elf

[Fenn_]

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

Fenn wrote...

Fenris could be a little crazy but I can't judge for certain why he went temple of doom on that one guy.

My theory:

In a previous clip, it looks like that guy was yelling at Hawke. When it goes to the other clip, he comes up behind Fenris, (to me) he looks like he's surprised to see him (like Fen's a random guy that's not supposed to be there) and as if he's asking him, "What are you doing here?" Either Hawke and co. (because if you look at the folks behind Hawke when Hawke's getting yelled at, you don't see Fenris-- It's Varric, Carver, and Aveline) are captured or in trouble and Fenris is coming to the rescue, taking out anyone that would get in his way, or the guy antagonized Hawke, antagonized him, or antagonized both of them in some highly offensive way, and Fenris decides the best option is to simply kill him.

=Edit=

I also wonder if  that could be when we first meet Fenris.

That would make sence.

[Ryzaki]

Tashash wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I need to see more. That punch has me backing up. He looks like well..a bit crazy. *backs slowly away*

Context would be appreciated, as much as I love Fenris I would prefer him not to be a homicidal maniac.

This. I joke and say I find crazy guys sexy but I would not find any of them actual romance material.

*laughs* Looks like I might actually end up romancing Merrill. Or Isabela!

[La_Duchessa]

bsbcaer wrote...

La_Duchessa wrote...

bsbcaer wrote...

La_Duchessa wrote...

Lleyta Black wrote...

Of the 3 possible Lady Hawke LI's, my guess for who isn't is Varric. Partly because I want Anders and Fenris

This...

If you don't mind me asking, any particular reason?

Of course I don't mind you asking. It because to me hight is an issue in wether or not I find a guy attractive. Even if Varic is the most attractive dwarf that we have seen thus far, he just doesnt do it 4 me.
He will be Hawkes BFF, nothing more.

Actually, I guess I should have been more specific.  I was asking not so much about "why not Varric" but more "why Anders and Fenris"?

Anders: Because I found him to be the most awesome character in Awakening and so I hoped he was going to be in DA:2 and he is (yay). Also because of the Justice/Vengence thing, it would make a whole romance with him that much harder.
Fenris: Because his 'condition' sounds interesting to me and I think that a romance with him would be different and challenging.

[Maera Imrov]

I think they would only hate it if it knocked their favored potential LI out of the running. Be that Fenris or Anders. Ever since Anders' official reveal, and the reveal of his new 'nature', I can accept him as a 'second prize' if Varric is a LI and Fenris is not. Even before that, we all assumed the last companion was male, so I hung my hopes on them if Fenris was out. Varric has never been an issue to me, in so much as seeing him as 'competition' or some such.



Now if he was the only LI, I would be a mite upset.

[Fenn_]

kitterkat wrote...

one more page till 600. Wow and this is mostly wild spection on a shiny, complete rockin' elf

David Gaider must be happy. 

[Ceridwen]

We think on the same wavelength, Fenn.

Modifié par kwintessa, 10 février 2011 - 04:08 .

[mellifera]

Saibh wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Uh, so do we?

Height ain't no thang. As pseudo put it:

Yuki, I know that you really like Varric and have to deal with a lot of crap from people who don't like him. That sucks. You have a lot vested in him, like most people here have something vested in an as But, sometimes, I wish that you wouldn't get so quick to be offended when people say things that could be construed as possibly derogatory towards Varric or dwarves.

I was saying I don't want Varric as a LI because he does not appeal to me. Nothing more. Nothing less. I was not saying you are wrong in having him appeal to you. But I'm allowed personal preferences.

Offended? Who is offended? I was just stating that, like you, we want LI we like and find attractive. I actually don't have that much vested in him as an LI. I don't think he's going to be one. I like him as a character first and foremost, and am glad that we'll see plenty of him as the narrator. I quite like Fenris and Anders a lot. Hell, I'd probably romance Fenris if Varric isn't an LI and even if Varric were, I still would at some point. I am invested in all the characters and find them all compelling for their own reasons. Posting pseudo's picture was to illustrate that I think a dwarf/human relationship would be cute, especially since I had the chance to play them in DAO and found them cute as well (and in that game we didn't get to romance a dwarf either). Wanting him as a love interest =/= me thinking he will be one. It is frustrating, for many reasons, but whatever.

And sorry, if people weren't constantly trashing Varric and dwarves for no damn reason all the time, I might be a bit less hasty to respond to people who were doing so. I don't think you were doing that, I was responding to you saying that you didn't want him as an LI because you want your preferences catered to. So do I. So do all of us.

Modifié par yukidama, 10 février 2011 - 04:10 .