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Minxie

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Absafraginlootly wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...

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If Fenris is the bi LI, that's alright with me, its not my cup of tea personally, but if people enjoy that kind of romance I have no problem with it.

If there's one line of Fenris dialogue that would make me laugh its this:

Hawke: Fenris, can I ask you a question?

Fenris: As you wish.

+5 imaginary Doctor Dollars if you catch the reference.


Princess Bride? :happy:

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The only character who ever ninjamanced me was Mordin from ME2.

Needless to say.... awkwwwaaard.

Omg, that happened to me. I kept going to talk to Mordin because I just wanted to learn more about him - he was just so interesting. And then suddenly he's telling me it'll never work out between us or something and I'm just going, "Wut? :blink:"


Er... you know he was joking right? Making fun of you?

Atleast that's how it seemed to me. I selected the option that was like "your joking" or "your making fun of me" and he responded by saying something like "Noooo, would I do that ot you?" In a sarcastic sort of voice.

:lol: I don't remember very well, to be honest. But I do think that you only get that conversation with Mordin if you haven't been romancing anyone else. Otherwise he tries to talk to you about that other romance.

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I prefer the sensual scenes over the outright sex/grinding/blahblah. I think I posted something like that in the thread someone had on that topic. I'm a much more emotional/thought/mental/spiritual person. Not really all that physical. Even when I write fanfiction that gets to that point in a relationship, I approach it from a more mental and/or emotional point.

I'm actually quite excited to see what they've done with it.

My opinion may be moot, however. I adored Thane's scene, and lots of people I talk to in the DA fandom seemed to hate it. I loved its emotional impact.

Modifié par Maera Imrov, 11 février 2011 - 03:47 .


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HolyJellyfish wrote...

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I disliked Jacob because he seemed like he was pissed off all the time.


I've played the game a few more times and really appreciate Jacob these days. He's not my cup of tea for romance, but there are plenty of casual lady gamers that I know who were like 'Oh but dem aaaabbbzzzzzz'. He's my bro. We bump knuckles and spot one another at the gym.

 

Lulz. 

I don't know he just screamed "STOP TALKING TO ME." to my dude Shep. Then asking him about his father made his hackles rise. And urgh. My Shep was done with that early. 

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RosaAquafire wrote...

Did everyone see Mike Laidlaw's comments on sex scenes? More sexy, less sex? How does everyone think this'll affect Fenris? If we can keep it clean, lol.


Probley just touching him without geting eviscerated.

Modifié par Fenn , 11 février 2011 - 03:49 .


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Fenn wrote...

RosaAquafire wrote...

Did everyone see Mike Laidlaw's comments on sex scenes? More sexy, less sex? How does everyone think this'll affect Fenris? If we can keep it clean, lol.


Probley just touching him without geting phased eviscerated.


I imagine ten years of desire is enough to sexually frustrate a rock, let alone no-touch-me-Fenris.

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RosaAquafire wrote...

Did everyone see Mike Laidlaw's comments on sex scenes? More sexy, less sex? How does everyone think this'll affect Fenris? If we can keep it clean, lol.

I took that to mean we'll get more sexual tension, and less actual sex. Which is a good thing in my book.

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Minxie18 wrote...

Absafraginlootly wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

If Fenris is the bi LI, that's alright with me, its not my cup of tea personally, but if people enjoy that kind of romance I have no problem with it.

If there's one line of Fenris dialogue that would make me laugh its this:

Hawke: Fenris, can I ask you a question?

Fenris: As you wish.

+5 imaginary Doctor Dollars if you catch the reference.


Princess Bride? :happy:

HolyJellyfish wrote...

The only character who ever ninjamanced me was Mordin from ME2.

Needless to say.... awkwwwaaard.

Omg, that happened to me. I kept going to talk to Mordin because I just wanted to learn more about him - he was just so interesting. And then suddenly he's telling me it'll never work out between us or something and I'm just going, "Wut? :blink:"


Er... you know he was joking right? Making fun of you?

Atleast that's how it seemed to me. I selected the option that was like "your joking" or "your making fun of me" and he responded by saying something like "Noooo, would I do that ot you?" In a sarcastic sort of voice.

:lol: I don't remember very well, to be honest. But I do think that you only get that conversation with Mordin if you haven't been romancing anyone else. Otherwise he tries to talk to you about that other romance.


That must be why I got it instead of a conversation about my romance, I left the romancing til really late in the game.

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Wall-slamming, tracing of lyrium marks, the good old 'I hate that I love you' scenerio...enough angry rival sexiness to make me melt into nothing more then a pile of demonic goo.

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More tension is better I agree not oh look shiny then jump in bed.

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Maera Imrov wrote...

I prefer the sensual scenes over the outright sex/grinding/blahblah. I think I posted something like that in the thread someone had on that topic. I'm a much more emotional/thought/mental/spiritual person. Not really all that physical. Even when I write fanfiction that gets to that point in a relationship, I approach it from a more mental and/or emotional point.

I'm actually quite excited to see what they've done with it.

My opinion may be moot, however. I adored Thane's scene, and lots of people I talk to in the DA fandom seemed to hate it. I loved its emotional impact.


Yeah I liked it too, it was really emotional, people always seem to complain about the love scene in ME2. I don't how good/terrible the others might be but Thanes is great.

I like the idea in DA2 of the sexy/emotional over grinding/graphic love scenes, those are just boring,

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I actually avoided romances in both mass effects.

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I romanced Kaidan in ME1, but by the time I got to ME2, my concept of my 'canon-shep' had changed to the point that romancing him no longer really meshed with her, personality-wise. So I had to redo that, and was going to just see how 2 went. I knew nothing about anyone in it, other than my boyfriend's comment that he thought I would like Thane quite a bit. (I pretty much ignored 2, and didn't even know who I'd recruit. I didn't even know Thane was an alien. I only knew his name, and that he was a 'good' assassin. XD)



I thought I might romance Garrus, but he became too 'bromance' for me. Despite my Shep being female, I still call it a bromance. Because it really is a very close, fraternal thing there. And Thane just perfectly clicked with her. So. But Jacob... Jacob... I admire his frankness and honesty, but that romance... *shudders*



I am just really hoping Fen doesn't turn out to be... a bit... violent. I hate to do the comparing to Jack thing, but it is there. I like Jack a lot though, so that's not really a negative. Still, it would be hard to get along with him long enough to romance him. Rivalry-mance, I just dunno. I hate that I love you... not sure if it would fit the Hawke that's taking form in my mind. We shall see.

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I don't think he'll be anywhere close to Jack. Jack was loudmouthed and brash. Gaider told us that Fenris was the only one who never shouted in combat. I know their pasts might be similar, but I don't think there's any more similarities.

Modifié par yoshibb, 11 février 2011 - 04:07 .


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If Fenris is like Jack I'm pretty much jumping aboard the Varric love train. I don't like rage in my LIs.

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Well, I don't think he'll curse like Jack. Though, I'll be frank, that really did tickle me about her. She wasn't prim and proper, and she didn't care. Unlike Miranda. Or Tali who despite growing up a bit was still kind of 'little sister' like to my Shep. I don't think Fen will get loud or whatnot. I was thinking more the anger issues, and perhaps even a vague inability, or unwillingness, to control that rage and power.



Similarities on the inside, not the out.

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I think he will have a form of tranquil fury.

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Maera Imrov wrote...

Well, I don't think he'll curse like Jack. Though, I'll be frank, that really did tickle me about her. She wasn't prim and proper, and she didn't care. Unlike Miranda. Or Tali who despite growing up a bit was still kind of 'little sister' like to my Shep. I don't think Fen will get loud or whatnot. I was thinking more the anger issues, and perhaps even a vague inability, or unwillingness, to control that rage and power.

Similarities on the inside, not the out.


And that still isn't wanted from me. 

I don't want a bundle of rage and power. Been there done that. 

And I'm not overly fond of people with anger issues either. Being unable to control your rage to me is weakness. No matter how much physical strength you have if you're mentally weak I don't want you as a partner .

Modifié par Ryzaki, 11 février 2011 - 04:15 .


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I'm not sure I'd want it in a LI either. :P Was talking more to yoshi, but I'm too lazy for the quote button tonight.

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Maera Imrov wrote...
I am just really hoping Fen doesn't turn out to be... a bit... violent. I hate to do the comparing to Jack thing, but it is there. I like Jack a lot though, so that's not really a negative. Still, it would be hard to get along with him long enough to romance him. Rivalry-mance, I just dunno. I hate that I love you... not sure if it would fit the Hawke that's taking form in my mind. We shall see.

Well, indications so far are the he is pretty violent - we're just waiting for context.

Is it wrong that I don't care that Fenris eviscerates the funny looking dude? :bandit: I'm assuming Fenris had a better reason for killing him other than "he touched me", but even if we get context for that situation which makes Fenris' actions look way harsh, it wouldn't turn me against him. I mean it's nothing worse than anything Renegade Shepard's ever done ("You're working too hard" and "*shove* How about goodbye?" etc)
And if it was an option for Hawke to falcon punch/phase through people who antagonize you, you know most players would wanna try it. :P The rules are different in video game world.

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Maera Imrov wrote...

I'm not sure I'd want it in a LI either. :P Was talking more to yoshi, but I'm too lazy for the quote button tonight.


Ah. 

As for Rene Shep I consider a full rene Shep to be a sociopath and wouldn't go within 3 miles of him. Nor would I romance him. 

That said everyone has different tolerance levels. I just don't find rage filled guys who kill people on a whim to be attractive. Interesting sure but I don't want to be friends/lovers with them. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 11 février 2011 - 04:18 .


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Jacob and Kaiden were both frustrating romances for me beacuse they were both so professional. Even at the very end of your relationship with Kaiden you were hitting on him and he was talking about politics and how the Normandy and its crew don't get the appreciation they deserve. It may have been true, but...I couldn't get through the whole romance beacuse he made me feel like my Sheperd was being irresponsible pursuing a relationship with a subordinate when she should have been, y'know, saving the universe.

Considering that the protagonist in Dragon Age is in a position of power over the others in the party as well, do you guys think that hitting on the party members is a little weird sometimes? I felt like I was taking advantage of my position sometimes, especially when the companion gave it up really easily (yes, Zevran, I'm looking at you.) I mean, think about it. No one else is getting any. Just you, because you are in a unique position to win people's affections with booze and noble deeds. Maybe since Dragon age 2 is over an extended period of time the relationships will grow more organically and you won't have to be so forward with your companions (and they won't be so forward with you.)

Modifié par Imani25, 11 février 2011 - 05:01 .


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Ryzaki wrote...

Maera Imrov wrote...

I'm not sure I'd want it in a LI either. :P Was talking more to yoshi, but I'm too lazy for the quote button tonight.


Ah. 

As for Rene Shep I consider a full rene Shep to be a sociopath and wouldn't go within 3 miles of him. Nor would I romance him. 

That said everyone has different tolerance levels. I just don't find rage filled guys who kill people on a whim to be attractive. Interesting sure but I don't want to be friends/lovers with them. 


I can't even play a Renegade/Dark Sider/Closed Fist/Whateverelsebiowarehasused. So if he did turn out rather vicious in some way, I'd have a hard time getting past it to romance him.

*gets slightly less lazy as she forgot this thread gets active at night sometimes*

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Maera Imrov wrote...

Well, I don't think he'll curse like Jack. Though, I'll be frank, that really did tickle me about her. She wasn't prim and proper, and she didn't care. Unlike Miranda. Or Tali who despite growing up a bit was still kind of 'little sister' like to my Shep. I don't think Fen will get loud or whatnot. I was thinking more the anger issues, and perhaps even a vague inability, or unwillingness, to control that rage and power.

Similarities on the inside, not the out.


Well, I say give him a little leeway to get his anger worked out. After all, I can imagine being treated like that for so long would cause some rage. If he's still got the same anger issues like 7 years into the story I might agree with you. It's also a possibility that he doesn't really have too much of a sense of right and wrong, if he's been a slave for a long time. He's probably used to killing people without reason and needs to build a set of morals once he's with the PC.

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(imagines Fenris romance scene)

Fenris: (walking into Hawke's room) Well, what do we have here?

Hawke: (confused) Fenris? Is something wrong?

Fenris: Sneaking into the Champion's chambers...Oh Magister's beard I sound like an idiot, why did I take that sodding dwarf's advice?

Hawke: Fen, I love you. You know that right?

Fenris: (sighs) I know, but this whole idea of having someone, being with someone like you is completely new to me. Perhaps seeking the advice of Varric was a bad idea.

Hawke:
(wrapping arms around Fenris' neck) Well you did sound like a character out of one of my sister's books.

Fenris: I did?

Hawke: You did.

Fenris: Is that a bad thing?

Hawke:
I'll leave that for you to decide. (kisses Fenris)

Fenris:
(breaking kiss) I think that  it would be best to refain from suggestive behavior.

Hawke: Oh, I hope not.

Fenris:
Why?

Hawke: Because then I couldn't do this. (wraps legs around Fenris' waist)

Fenris: I think I like this suggestion. (placing arms around Hawke's neck)

Hawke: I figured you would, now come here.

(Fenris and Hawke kiss and fall onto the floor as the camera fades to black)

Modifié par Dr. Doctor, 11 février 2011 - 04:28 .


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Imani25 wrote...
Considering that the protagonist in Dragon Age is in a position of power over the others in the party as well, go you guys think that hitting on the party members is a little weird sometimes? I felt like I was taking advantage of my position sometimes, especially with the companion gives it up really easily (yes, Zevran, I'm looking at you.) I mean, think about it. No one else is getting any. Just you, because you are in a unique position to win their hearts with booze and noble deeds. Maybe since Dragon age 2 is over an extended period of time the relationships will grow more organically and you won't have to be so forward with your companions (and they won't be so forward with you.)

I loathe that. That's probably why I can't get in to the ME romances in general and bothered me somewhat in DAO. I don't like being my companions and potential LIs' 'boss'.

I have a good feeling about DA2 knowing that the companions have separate lives away from Hawke, though. It should make for a nice change of pace regarding friendships and romances.
Except for maybe the situation with Hawke's siblings, it seems. ^_^ There's that "I'm in charge. You do what I say" line from the dev diary. I hope Hawke doesn't ever say stuff like that to the other companions when they're being disagreeable. I'd rather they argue and try to come to an agreement instead of Hawke simply pulling the 'I'm the boss' card.

Modifié par Minxie18, 11 février 2011 - 04:30 .