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[a12boom]

*Fenris kills some templars as camera pans up to Mage hawke and Anders*

Anders: I like him

Hawke: mommy Can we keep him?

Momma hawke: Sure thing dear but you have feed him water him and bathe him.

hawke: yay

[Navaura]

Astoria wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

I bet Fenris is the guy that won't let you have the upper hand even in joking, playful situations. That's the only possibility I've been able to come up with that can connect his backstory with Balthier voice.
And that kind of person drives me NUTS. Argh. I'm going to love to hate him, if that's the case.

Hawke: "I WIN!"
Fenris: "WTF?! GO FISH SUCKS!" *Lyrium attacks cards and they melt in space*

+500 Rivalry.

Sounds like a real relationship man. real relationships with real consequences.

Varric: Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

Fenris: ARGH! *flips board in testosterone fueled rage*

Hawke: This is why we can't have nice things!

Hah!  Hawke: This is why we can't have nice things!

Fenris then turns into FenHulk and terrorizes the village. 

[Meer]

problematique wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...

I keep getting Heathcliff, Male-Morrigan, Darcy vibe from Fenris. which is okay in my book, because my PCs are almost always typically aggressive, mean, and sarcastic. We are gonna be soooo snarky and hated in our party... Its nice to MAYBE have an LI option who agrees with "selfishness" and "jerkery" too, like how the boys did with Morrigan.

This forever. I love Heathcliff, but I love Darcy more, mostly for the fact that he's this stoic, standoffish, yet intensely vulnerable person. Fenris coming out with a "I do not have the talent of conversing easily with people I have never met before," sort of thing would be schweet.

You both have good taste and I concur.  <3

[Ninjacat513]

Deliciously-Demonic wrote...

The darker Fen gets, the darker my Lady!Hawke gets. In just a week, she'd gone from the light-hearted and sarcastic Isabela/Anders love child, to a broody, closed-off magette, with a dark, morbid, sarcastic sense of humor, who kills, does and saves what and who she wants, and by the Black City, anyone who stands in her way better know how to run. Oh, and she's also all angsty about the death of her baby sister.

You just defined my mage Hawkette.

My rogue is going to be nice, kind of sarcastic but sweet, Bethany's bff, and Anders' girl

[Uhh.. Jonah]

a12boom wrote...

*Fenris kills some templars as camera pans up to Mage hawke and Anders*
Anders: I like him
Hawke: mommy Can we keep him?
Momma hawke: Sure thing dear but you have feed him water him and bathe him.
hawke: yay

LOL

[Aristorum]

Deliciously-Demonic wrote...

The darker Fen gets, the darker my Lady!Hawke gets. In just a week, she'd gone from the light-hearted and sarcastic Isabela/Anders love child, to a broody, closed-off magette, with a dark, morbid, sarcastic sense of humor, who kills, does and saves what and who she wants, and by the Black City, anyone who stands in her way better know how to run. Oh, and she's also all angsty about the death of her baby sister.

Maybe I missed it but when was Fenris confirmed as a dark character? All I've heard was stoic.

[Deliciously-Demonic]

Ninja, is it possible we are twin sister, seperated at birth? O_o You just described my rogue!Hawkette.

[Ninjacat513]

Squee for Anders love.





And morbid Fenris love!

[upsettingshorts]

Just a general point: Stoic and angst are not the same. If as concepts they had opposites, well, they'd be on different sides that's for sure. To the point that I'm almost certain it's near impossible to be stoic and angsty at the same time.  One describes a sense of rising above such emotional hangups, the other is about a feeling of being moved in some way by them.

Granted, DG didn't say "Fenris is extremely stoic guys." He said - I believe - that he was interested in writing a character who was more stoic than Valen Shadowbreath, and that character turned out to be Fenris.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 13 février 2011 - 06:46 .

[Deliciously-Demonic]

-glomps Ninja while squeeing like crazy-



And Aristorum, it's all speculation, but very likely speculation IMHO.

[problematique]

*snip* Irrelevant post is irrelevant, come to think of it.

Modifié par problematique, 13 février 2011 - 07:03 .

[HolyJellyfish]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Just a general point: Stoic and angst are not the same. If as concepts they had opposites, well, they'd be on different sides that's for sure. To the point that I'm almost certain it's near impossible to be stoic and angsty at the same time.  One describes a sense of rising above such emotional hangups, the other is about a feeling of being moved in some way by them.

Granted, DG didn't say "Fenris is extremely stoic guys." He said - I believe - that he was interested in writing a character who was more stoic than Valen Shadowbreath, and that character turned out to be Fenris.

yep yep yep yep. yupperoni.

I never got angst vibe from him, but that didn't stop me from wanting to hold his hand two months ago and teach him basic arthmetic. I don't think that's a valid option anymore.

[Dave of Canada]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Just a general point: Stoic and angst are not the same. If as concepts they had opposites, well, they'd be on different sides that's for sure. To the point that I'm almost certain it's near impossible to be stoic and angsty at the same time.  One describes a sense of rising above such emotional hangups, the other is about a feeling of being moved in some way by them.

Granted, DG didn't say "Fenris is extremely stoic guys." He said - I believe - that he was interested in writing a character who was more stoic than Valen Shadowbreath, and that character turned out to be Fenris.

Stoicness at it's finest.

[Aristorum]

Deliciously-Demonic wrote...

-glomps Ninja while squeeing like crazy-

And Aristorum, it's all speculation, but very likely speculation IMHO.

Back that up, please. What makes the idea of "dark Fenris" so very likely? I was always under the impression that stoic = philosophical / unemotional. Kind of like what Shorts said.

[littlenikki]

Wow, this thread is moving at like twenty pages a minute again. I've all but given up on trying to catch up with what I've missed while at work
Those screenshots on page 663 or so are beautiful though, I must say  *cue typical fangril swooning* I think I need to re-watch that Fenris speaking video for strictly research...you know how it is

[Ninjacat513]

I have a feeling that if Fenris is a dark/quiet/Morrigan-type/stoic Sten-type character, I might be doing frolicking and flowerpicking with Anders and his cat. I shall save brooding and phasing through things for Fenris.

[Addai]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Just a general point: Stoic and angst are not the same. If as concepts they had opposites, well, they'd be on different sides that's for sure. To the point that I'm almost certain it's near impossible to be stoic and angsty at the same time.  One describes a sense of rising above such emotional hangups, the other is about a feeling of being moved in some way by them.

Granted, DG didn't say "Fenris is extremely stoic guys." He said - I believe - that he was interested in writing a character who was more stoic than Valen Shadowbreath, and that character turned out to be Fenris.

Yeah, I don't understand this myself, we keep running into discussions about people having to fix him etc.  Whereas stoic implies the opposite to me.

[upsettingshorts]

Addai67 wrote...

Yeah, I don't understand this myself, we keep running into discussions about people having to fix him etc.  Whereas stoic implies the opposite to me.

It's possible, and Dave's picture of Spock provides an example of when a stoic character blows up and follows their emotions.  That might require "fixing" in the Bioware companion sense.  But that's not angsty or emo in the sense that the character needs to learn how to accept things and deal with them - a stoic person already has, it's about dealing with the loss of that control.

But that's just a hypothetical.  There's no reason - yet - to suspect that if Fenris represents a stoic character in that sense that he'd ever lose control and his "issue" is something else.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 13 février 2011 - 06:59 .

[Taitiana]

*Ninja post* 

Anyone else thinking that Fenris might be the mean-spirited? I don't think he's totally bad but maybe he just doesn't understand people, or life-or the value of it. And based on the certain edge to his voice...he seems to be of the brooding type. He could be the jerk Chris was speaking of-it fits.

 And I'm liking him more and more every day. Dammit, am I some sort of sadistic fangirl now???

....

[Dave of Canada]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

It's possible, and Dave's picture of Spock provides an example of when a stoic character blows up and follows their emotions.  That might require "fixing" in the Bioware companion sense.  But that's not angsty or emo in the sense that the character needs to learn how to accept things and deal with them - a stoic person already has, it's about dealing with the loss of that control.

But that's just a hypothetical.  There's no reason - yet - to suspect that if Fenris represents a stoic character in that sense that he'd ever lose control and his "issue" is something else.

Fenris will always remain stoic, you'll just have to fight his alternate reality self that has a goatee.

[HolyJellyfish]

He did run his hand through someone's chest cavity. I'm not sure many stoics do that for fun.

[HolyJellyfish]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

It's possible, and Dave's picture of Spock provides an example of when a stoic character blows up and follows their emotions.  That might require "fixing" in the Bioware companion sense.  But that's not angsty or emo in the sense that the character needs to learn how to accept things and deal with them - a stoic person already has, it's about dealing with the loss of that control.

But that's just a hypothetical.  There's no reason - yet - to suspect that if Fenris represents a stoic character in that sense that he'd ever lose control and his "issue" is something else.

Fenris will always remain stoic, you'll just have to fight his alternate reality self that has a goatee.

Or romance him too.

[upsettingshorts]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

He did run his hand through someone's chest cavity. I'm not sure many stoics do that for fun.

True, and Spock pulled out the violence from time to time too.  Because it was reasonable given the situation to do so.  We know nothing of the context of that particular scene.

A more interesting one is actually the unfortunately-overspammed table slam.  He lookes pretty annoyed at the very least.

Which ultimately means nothing we don't already know:  Fenris is basically a blank slate at  this point as far as we really know.

[Ryzaki]

Actually we do know some of the context. The guy had a group with him that laid a trap for Feris. Fenris kills all the mooks except last guy and walks past him saying. (paraphrased) "Run back to your master." but the man touched Fenris *probably to drag him forcibly away* then POW. Chest pawnch. 

Beginning of scene (Before guy touches him)

Modifié par Ryzaki, 13 février 2011 - 07:10 .

[HolyJellyfish]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...

He did run his hand through someone's chest cavity. I'm not sure many stoics do that for fun.

True, and Spock pulled out the violence from time to time too.  Because it was reasonable given the situation to do so.  We know nothing of the context of that particular scene.

A more interesting one is actually the unfortunately-overspammed table slam.  He lookes pretty annoyed at the very least.

Which ultimately means nothing we don't already know:  Fenris is basically a blank slate at  this point as far as we really know.

A blank slate who is a super weapon and has the voice of a sky pirate.

I am so totally shallow and going to boink him. That's all I need for a green light.