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[HolyJellyfish]

If he ends up being Fen'Harel like a lot of people are speculating, AND He's an LI, that would be like... Romancing a Demigod.



First Kings, and then Demigods. Dear god, you can't go wrong from that point.

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

If he ends up being Fen'Harel like a lot of people are speculating, AND He's an LI, that would be like... Romancing a Demigod.

First Kings, and then Demigods. Dear god, you can't go wrong from that point.

*Sniff, sniff* Little Hawke grew up to marry other-wordly beings. 

[Russalka]

What if he is Jesus?

[Tellervo]

I have a question: if those tats are lyrium brands, how the hell does he not have lyrium poisoning? Or will he perhaps be in early/middle stages of it? That would be... interesting, especially considering how much time the game covers. We'd start with a relatively lucid companion and end up with "Enchantment!" Or very similar to the older Templar you meet in Denerim.

[kgaustad]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

If he ends up being Fen'Harel like a lot of people are speculating, AND He's an LI, that would be like... Romancing a Demigod.

First Kings, and then Demigods. Dear god, you can't go wrong from that point.

This.

[HolyJellyfish]

Tellervo wrote...

I have a question: if those tats are lyrium brands, how the hell does he not have lyrium poisoning? Or will he perhaps be in early/middle stages of it? That would be... interesting, especially considering how much time the game covers. We'd start with a relatively lucid companion and end up with "Enchantment!" Or very similar to the older Templar you meet in Denerim.

There are a few theories floating around about the issue.

That
A) He's an Arlathan elf and survives
 He's Fen'Harel. He's a freaking demigod. Boy can survive anything.
C) He is an organic golem, the final achievement that Tevinter was trying to accomplish in the Golem of Amgarrak DLC, perfectly fine
D) If done right, the lyrium injection actually makes him immortal instead of poisoning him ala the Arlathan Elves, and the Tevinters were trying to tap into that knowledge. He's an experimental success.

Other than that, all theories are in the air.

[Falandra]

Tellervo wrote...

I have a question: if those tats are lyrium brands, how the hell does he not have lyrium poisoning? Or will he perhaps be in early/middle stages of it? That would be... interesting, especially considering how much time the game covers. We'd start with a relatively lucid companion and end up with "Enchantment!" Or very similar to the older Templar you meet in Denerim.

I've been wondering about htis for a while now... What if the lyrium is slowly killing him? I mean, it does have side effects, right? *remembers the Templar in front of Denerim's Chantry*

...Not another Thane...

[HolyJellyfish]

kgaustad wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...

If he ends up being Fen'Harel like a lot of people are speculating, AND He's an LI, that would be like... Romancing a Demigod.

First Kings, and then Demigods. Dear god, you can't go wrong from that point.

This.

I'm still personally rooting for this theory. I'm not sure if his amnesia is periodic or if he requires more than the one lyrium injection, but if the legend is true that Fen'Harel turned against the 'Old Gods' and the other Arlathan elves, I can see that the reason he /did/ that was because the Tevinters wiped his memories and enslaved him using the lyrium injection as a 'living weapon'.

I bet he's like Flemeth, just locked down by lack of memories.

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

HolyJellyfish wrote...


There are a few theories floating around about the issue.

That
A) He's an Arlathan elf and survives
 He's Fen'Harel. He's a freaking demigod. Boy can survive anything.
C) He is an organic golem, the final achievement that Tevinter was trying to accomplish in the Golem of Amgarrak DLC, perfectly fine
D) If done right, the lyrium injection actually makes him immortal instead of poisoning him ala the Arlathan Elves, and the Tevinters were trying to tap into that knowledge. He's an experimental success.

Other than that, all theories are in the air.

To B: If he's a demigod, you know they're going to make it look like he dies at one point and then he'll come back just when Hawke needs him most (if there's enough approval).

To C: Please don't tell me that means we might have to kill him.


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HolyJellyfish wrote...

kgaustad wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...

If he ends up being Fen'Harel like a lot of people are speculating, AND He's an LI, that would be like... Romancing a Demigod.

First Kings, and then Demigods. Dear god, you can't go wrong from that point.

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I'm
still personally rooting for this theory. I'm not sure if his amnesia
is periodic or if he requires more than the one lyrium injection, but if
the legend is true that Fen'Harel turned against the 'Old Gods' and the
other Arlathan elves, I can see that the reason he /did/ that was
because the Tevinters wiped his memories and enslaved him using the
lyrium injection as a 'living weapon'.

I bet he's like Flemeth, just locked down by lack of memories.

Ooo, good idea. It would make sense why Fen'Harel did so.

Modifié par Madame Rose Crimsynn, 20 décembre 2010 - 04:35 .

[Tellervo]

I don't think I'd be willing to buy that he's Fen'harel just yet--Gaider seems to like his tropes, but this would distract from how awesome Hawke is supposed to be. If it is the case, we would never be allowed to know for certain. Arlathan survivor and organic golem seem far, far more likely, IMO.



To the topic of lyrium, again, treating him as any other mortal for sake of speculation--would he be addicted, do you think? I'd imagine however long he's been on the run would be long enough for him to overcome it unless he's quite literally dependent on lyrium to fuel his living weapon mojo. It would be interesting, since they were unable to use the addiction mechanic as originally intended in DA:O, to have a companion who is addicted.

[Behindyounow]

Whats with his shoes (well, lack of)? Looks pretty stupid, and an easy way to get his feet cut to pieces.



His hair makes him look like a metrosexual emo douche too.

[Yana Montana]

Fenris is damn stylish. Deal with it.

[Behindyounow]

Style died when metal went back underground.

[HolyJellyfish]

Behindyounow wrote...

Style died when metal went back underground.

If you have nothing constructive to say then this forum is not for you. Trolls aren't tolerated.

[Ramante]

Gaider said there was a reason why he is named Fenris...

He was basically the gods puppy until he grew to big and they decided to snare him. Tyr, the god who lost his hand, was the one closest to Fenris, and put his hand in the mouth of the wolf as a guarantee that the thread that they snared him in (after him ripping  apart any chain they could muster) wasn't trickery. It was witchcraft and thus Fenris
bit the hand off.

When I read this and then look at Hawke from the first trailer..
I don't want to know why one of Hawke's hands is 'claw-like'. o.o

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

Behindyounow wrote...

Whats with his shoes (well, lack of)? Looks pretty stupid, and an easy way to get his feet cut to pieces.

His hair makes him look like a metrosexual emo douche too.

Sweetie, I rarely wear shoes. Even if I'm in the middle of nowhere. I've only ever gotten a couple of splinters in my feet, and I don't think I've ever cut them. There are real people who don't wear shoes and they do crazy stuff like explore forests that can easily cut their feet and they're fine. And I guess you must think hobbits are stupid as well, because they don't wear shoes...

As to the second part...

*Digs through another thread*





^ Thank you Ms. Lovey Dovey, this will become my new favorite thing. Wish I could've used it on that troll from earlier.

[ankuu]

As if hair (or looks) is the most important thing in the world...before whenever i heard "Adam Lambert" i was like "Whoa, that emo guy?!". Well i saw American Idol on TV the other day and i was like "Oh em gee...that guy has a voice!".



You should wait for the game to come out and see how Fenris is.

[HolyJellyfish]

Tellervo wrote...

I don't think I'd be willing to buy that he's Fen'harel just yet--Gaider seems to like his tropes, but this would distract from how awesome Hawke is supposed to be. If it is the case, we would never be allowed to know for certain. Arlathan survivor and organic golem seem far, far more likely, IMO.

To the topic of lyrium, again, treating him as any other mortal for sake of speculation--would he be addicted, do you think? I'd imagine however long he's been on the run would be long enough for him to overcome it unless he's quite literally dependent on lyrium to fuel his living weapon mojo. It would be interesting, since they were unable to use the addiction mechanic as originally intended in DA:O, to have a companion who is addicted.

Oh but Hawke would be oh so more awesome if one of his team members happened to be a forgetful demigod. The idea just fascinates me.

I don't know how addicted he'd be if its infused in his blood stream. It makes me wonder if he would be or if his body is naturally replenishing it since the experiment?

[LiquidGrape]

Behindyounow wrote...

Style died when metal went back underground.

I think you misunderstand; metal didn't go back underground, it buried itself alive beneath its superiority complex.

As for Fenris, I'll have to say he's growing on me. We're yet to see whether looks are all there is, though.

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 20 décembre 2010 - 04:58 .

[SirOccam]

I highly doubt he'll BE Fen'harel. If anything, I bet the similarity in their names is deliberate. Like Aveline...it doesn't mean she's THE Aveline, but it's not a coincidence either.

My theory is comparatively mundane; I think he was just a normal elf slave, and these experiments were done on him with the goal of understanding or perhaps harnessing the lost elven immortality. He was probably given the name by his master or maybe he gave it to himself after he escaped. In either case, I think it was because of the association to Fen'harel.

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

SirOccam wrote...

I highly doubt he'll BE Fen'harel. If anything, I bet the similarity in their names is deliberate. Like Aveline...it doesn't mean she's THE Aveline, but it's not a coincidence either.

My theory is comparatively mundane; I think he was just a normal elf slave, and these experiments were done on him with the goal of understanding or perhaps harnessing the lost elven immortality. He was probably given the name by his master or maybe he gave it to himself after he escaped. In either case, I think it was because of the association to Fen'harel.

OK, fine, crush fangirl dreams.

No, it's highly likely that we're just getting too excited and claiming Fen as a demigod. You could be completely right SirOccam, or you could be on the completely wrong track, or we could be on the completely wrong track and it's a lot bigger then we can think of right now. Or it's dead center between the Demigod-theory and your theory.

Modifié par Madame Rose Crimsynn, 20 décembre 2010 - 05:08 .

[Minxie]

Another theory I was pondering was not that he's necessarily THE Fen'harel, but rather he's got Fen'harel sealed inside him somehow. Or he's just got a good chunk of essence of Fen'harel in him. How or why... I dunno.



I have to admit I just think it would be really cool for Hawke to have a demigod companion, or someone who's very close to demigod status somehow.

[ankuu]

*cough* I think we've went a little bit too far with the theories



Maybe it's a normal thing to name children after gods in Thedas...it's normal in our world as well

[MarginalBeast]

I actually don't want him to be some kind of immortal demigod. Or at least I wouldn't want to romance him if he was one. One, it means Hawke would age and die long before he does. Two, I feel like gods/demigods should be far beyond human comprehension. I'd rather not meet them in the games at all (assuming they even exist). Somehow, having one in the party and romancing him would seem like bringing him down to a mundane level.

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

Minxie18 wrote...

Another theory I was pondering was not that he's necessarily THE Fen'harel, but rather he's got Fen'harel sealed inside him somehow. Or he's just got a good chunk of essence of Fen'harel in him. How or why... I dunno.

I have to admit I just think it would be really cool for Hawke to have a demigod companion, or someone who's very close to demigod status somehow.

Fenris with a chunk of Fen'Harel in him was a early theory when people figured out (by using Fenris' name) he was connected to the elf god, wasn't it? 

Could be the magisters were screwing around with something and got a hold of something too big that they weren't sure of what it was and used Fenris as a sort of container for it. They later became aware of what it was (a part of Fen'Harel), and became aware they could control that part of Fen'Harel through Fenris.