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[plumededragop]

Hi everyone!

I think they're more than 2 bi romance. Why? Because when someone asked who will be for which gender, the mod says that we'll have to "play to find out :devil:" ... if it's not a big clue, then I don't know what it is. ^^

[Fenn_]

It could be Anders or Fenris we don't know enough about them to rule out either of them.

[kcwME]

@plum
I think they said that before for the Origin romances, IIRC.

And, again if I remember correctly, a lot of people were sure that meant Morrigan was going to be the Bi option, so...yeah. Shows what we know.

Modifié par kcwME, 15 février 2011 - 05:31 .

[Ryzaki]

kcwME wrote...

I think they said that before for the Origin romances, IIRC.

Yes this. But the origin romances were also revealed about 2 weeks before lauch so we just have to wait a bit to find out who the m/m option is. 

[plumededragop]

Ah crap, I didn't know that. ^^ We'll, if it is a few week before launching, then maybe we'll know next week?

[elirian_19]

As much as I hate waiting, it's all we can do at this point.

[Minxie]

solstickan wrote...

Just because of this secrecy I'm starting to believe they are all bi. If that is the case, BioWare wins the cookie troophy for containing the most awesome since the Big Bang. It's not that I would play it gay that much, but I'm all for love for all! And I could romance Fenris with maleHawke aswell. Yay!

Going by the hints the devs have given, like in this thread, I'm gonna guess that not all LIs are bi. I think we'll get the two straight, two bi formula again.

I actually prefer it that way, because making all the LIs bi, while not a farfetched option, seems like it'd be too much like fanservice... and less like actual character writing. I also want to respect the writers' wishes when it comes to deciding what kind of people their characters are - it's their right to decide that their character is bi or straight as an arrow, and how badly fans want them to be only straight or fully bi shouldn't influence that.

Modifié par Minxie18, 15 février 2011 - 05:39 .

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Minxie18 wrote...
I actually prefer it that way, because making all the LIs bi, while not a farfetched option, seems like it'd be too much like fanservice... and less like actual character writing.

I'm sure all of the bisexual/homosexual fans appreciate this. :|

Considering romances in games are optional and fanservicey anyway...

[Minxie]

Pseudocognition wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...
I actually prefer it that way, because making all the LIs bi, while not a farfetched option, seems like it'd be too much like fanservice... and less like actual character writing.

I'm sure all of the bisexual/homosexual fans appreciate this. :|

Considering romances in games are optional and fanservicey anyway...

It's kind of what DG thinks too, though.

David Gaider wrote...
It could also be that all the romances are bisexual to everyone... but that'd be my least favorite option.

Modifié par Minxie18, 15 février 2011 - 05:43 .

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Minxie18 wrote...
It's kind of what DG thinks too, though.

*shrug* Well okay then.

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 15 février 2011 - 05:45 .

[solstickan]

Minxie18 wrote...

Going by the hints the devs have given, like in this thread, I'm gonna guess that not all LIs are bi. I think we'll get the two straight, two bi formula again.

I actually prefer it that way, because making all the LIs bi, while not a farfetched option, seems like it'd be too much like fanservice... and less like actual character writing. I also want to respect the writers' wishes when it comes to deciding what kind of people their characters are - it's their right to decide that their character is bi or straight as an arrow, and how badly fans want them to be only straight or fully bi shouldn't influence that.

Being bi-/homosexual isn't that rare, you know. I don't see why Hawke wouldn't have the fortune to run into four of them in Kirkwall/The Free Marches. But yeah, I guess it is not so likely after all... 

[MorningBird]

solstickan wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...

Going by the hints the devs have given, like in this thread, I'm gonna guess that not all LIs are bi. I think we'll get the two straight, two bi formula again.

I actually prefer it that way, because making all the LIs bi, while not a farfetched option, seems like it'd be too much like fanservice... and less like actual character writing. I also want to respect the writers' wishes when it comes to deciding what kind of people their characters are - it's their right to decide that their character is bi or straight as an arrow, and how badly fans want them to be only straight or fully bi shouldn't influence that.

Being bi-/homosexual isn't that rare, you know. I don't see why Hawke wouldn't have the fortune to run into four of them in Kirkwall/The Free Marches. But yeah, I guess it is not so likely after all... 

I wouldn't be so sure.

Earlier on in... some thread (I honestly don't remember which one any more) someone told me that DG had confirmed there would only be one m/m romance, and linked me to a dev quote, which I then misread and got completely depressed about, because I was hoping for all bi LI.

I brought it up later in the m/m thread (although, upon rereading the quote, it wasn't so much confirmation as a strong indication) and DG was quick to correct me on this page here.

I feel like a bit of a noob for not being more clear in my post, but hey, at least this doesn't mean that an all bi party is completely out of the question. :happy:

Modifié par MorningBird, 15 février 2011 - 06:08 .

[AzuraLuna]

I like having options, so for everyone to be bi would be nice from a purely selfish point of view. BUT, we're fetishized enough as it is. I don't want everyone in the game to be bisexual because it might feel like bisexuality is being trivialized.

That said, I really don't care if Fenris likes all genders or only one.

[LukaCrosszeria]

What to make of this:



http://social.biowar...5627593/6054140



It claims the Great Poobah said this:



David Gaider: "I'm certain that, whoever it is, there will be at least twenty people who will immediately fly to the internet to tell us how ugly and/or inappropriate he is as a m/m romance."



Err...Neither Anders nor Fenris are ugly or inappropriate....Weird. I'm going to see if I can find his original post.

[Fenn_]

Not ugly or Inappropriate to you but may be to some people that feel that way.

Modifié par Fenn , 15 février 2011 - 06:14 .

[Ryzaki]

LukaCrosszeria wrote...

What to make of this:

http://social.biowar...5627593/6054140

It claims the Great Poobah said this:

David Gaider: "I'm certain that, whoever it is, there will be at least twenty people who will immediately fly to the internet to tell us how ugly and/or inappropriate he is as a m/m romance."

Err...Neither Anders nor Fenris are ugly or inappropriate....Weird. I'm going to see if I can find his original post.

Beauty is subjective and people were saying they found Fenris unattractive. So not that far out there. 

[Tellervo]

MorningBird wrote...

solstickan wrote...

Minxie18 wrote...

Going by the hints the devs have given, like in this thread, I'm gonna guess that not all LIs are bi. I think we'll get the two straight, two bi formula again.

I actually prefer it that way, because making all the LIs bi, while not a farfetched option, seems like it'd be too much like fanservice... and less like actual character writing. I also want to respect the writers' wishes when it comes to deciding what kind of people their characters are - it's their right to decide that their character is bi or straight as an arrow, and how badly fans want them to be only straight or fully bi shouldn't influence that.

Being bi-/homosexual isn't that rare, you know. I don't see why Hawke wouldn't have the fortune to run into four of them in Kirkwall/The Free Marches. But yeah, I guess it is not so likely after all... 

I wouldn't be so sure.

Earlier on in... some thread (I honestly don't remember which one any more) someone told me that DG had confirmed there would only be one m/m romance, and linked me to a dev quote, which I then misread and got completely depressed about, because I was hoping for all bi LI.

I brought it up later in the m/m thread (although, upon rereading the quote, it wasn't so much confirmation as a strong indication) and DG was quick to correct me on this page here.

I feel like a bit of a noob for not being more clear in my post, but hey, at least this doesn't mean that an all bi party is completely out of the question. :happy:

Recall the Gaider feeds on the tears and crushed hopes of fandom.

Expect the worst, that way you can either smugly say, "I told you so," or be pleasantly surprised.  Its a win/win.

[Addai]

Eternally Faithful wrote...
Lady Hawke, you are an extremely brave, daring, lucky lady.

I dunno,  you can turn that around, too.  Marian being who she is (and mine is going to be a bloodmage), both guys have balls of veridium to take her on.  lol

[elirian_19]

LukaCrosszeria wrote...

What to make of this:

http://social.biowar...5627593/6054140

It claims the Great Poobah said this:

David Gaider: "I'm certain that, whoever it is, there will be at least twenty people who will immediately fly to the internet to tell us how ugly and/or inappropriate he is as a m/m romance."

Err...Neither Anders nor Fenris are ugly or inappropriate....Weird. I'm going to see if I can find his original post.

By the amount of, "ZOMG WE'RE STUCK WITH THEM? One Abomination and an elf that looks like a ten year old... I'm now gonna be celibate/romance Isabela" comments going around in the romance thread, I think David's prediction has a good chance of coming true.

(And yes, someone actually said Fenris looks like a child.)

Modifié par elirian_19, 15 février 2011 - 06:19 .

[MorningBird]

@Tellervo: Oh, no worries, I am a pessimist.

elirian_19 wrote...

LukaCrosszeria wrote...

What to make of this:

http://social.biowar...5627593/6054140

It claims the Great Poobah said this:

David Gaider: "I'm certain that, whoever it is, there will be at least twenty people who will immediately fly to the internet to tell us how ugly and/or inappropriate he is as a m/m romance."

Err...Neither Anders nor Fenris are ugly or inappropriate....Weird. I'm going to see if I can find his original post.

By the amount of, "ZOMG WE'RE STUCK WITH THEM? One Abomination and an elf that looks like a ten year old... I'm now gonna be celibate/romance Isabela" comments going around in the romance thread, I think David's prediction has a good chance of coming true.

(And yes, someone actually said Fenris looks like a child.)

I READ THAT! xD  But I didn't take it seriously.  Seemed waaaay too ridiculous to take seriously.

[chelxoxo]

Gosh, everyone's being so picky. I think it's just nice of Bioware to be considering all sexualities regardless. Not all games do that. Some people might not be happy with straight LIs, let alone bi ones. Why can't everyone be happy with what they've done already? D: Makes me sad that some people are acting like it'll detract from the game quality just because character X isn't an m/m or f/f romance...

[solstickan]

MorningBird wrote...

I wouldn't be so sure.

Earlier on in... some thread (I honestly don't remember which one any more) someone told me that DG had confirmed there would only be one m/m romance, and linked me to a dev quote, which I then misread and got completely depressed about, because I was hoping for all bi LI.

I brought it up later in the m/m thread (although, upon rereading the quote, it wasn't so much confirmation as a strong indication) and DG was quick to correct me on this page here.

I feel like a bit of a noob for not being more clear in my post, but hey, at least this doesn't mean that an all bi party is completely out of the question. :happy:

Silly Gaider. Living to confuse and provoke tears. Rawr! Hopefully we will at least be able to flirt with whoever we want. It seems they have been very generous in that aspect this time around. 

And I just remembered: There was a preview that said that you could hump practically anyone. Maybe that is an indication for all bi as well?

[Addai]

Minxie18 wrote...
I actually prefer it that way, because making all the LIs bi, while not a farfetched option, seems like it'd be too much like fanservice... and less like actual character writing. I also want to respect the writers' wishes when it comes to deciding what kind of people their characters are - it's their right to decide that their character is bi or straight as an arrow, and how badly fans want them to be only straight or fully bi shouldn't influence that.

Agreed.  Not just on this topic but in general, I hope the writers continue to take the attitude "this is the character, this is the story, take it or leave it," even if that means I can't always have what I want (like playing an elf PC).  It's part of what makes the writing so strong.

For everything else, there are mods and fanfiction.

[HolyJellyfish]

I personally would have no issue of all romance characters were "bisexual" optional. Why? Because its a fantasy game, and one person's playthrough is going to have a different impression than another person's playthrough.



Many people who had an S/S with Leliana swear up and down that she's NOT bisexual, but in fact Lesbian (The game certainly hints this. She seems to have absolutely zero interest and history with men, and all of her stories almost certainly involve strong female warriors / witches).



Really, its up to the interpretation of the person playing it. Its suspension of belief.

[LukaCrosszeria]

Waa, it's true

http://social.biowar...5627593/5965449

People called Fenris ugly...I do recall that I quoted some people who were reacting rather insanely violent to Fenris and gave them a suggestion what they should do next 

Edit: what's s/s?

Modifié par LukaCrosszeria, 15 février 2011 - 06:27 .