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[HolyJellyfish]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

Erm... How did we go from talking about Fenris to a Twilight discussion...?

Well, we're talking about romance in general and Twilight tends to get brought up in those circumstances because, you know, popular.

I thought Alistair was kind of shallow in the romance department, personally.  (And Zevran--and Morrigan, but for very different reasons.  Leliana was the only one I liked.)  Alistair wasn't BAD, it was just TOO AWKWARD for me.  I kept wanting to slap him and say "dude, you're in your mid-20's.  Man up already."  But I'm 30 and I just plain have no patience for that stuff any more.  I don't want to endure endless reams of Coming Of Age tales.  BRING ON THE ADULTS.

I loved Alistair's romance, if only because it took a stereotype and spun it on its head.

Instead of chasing after the virgin girl, you are chasing after the virgin boy  That trope doesn't exist in popular culture unless you are mocking it.

[Lucy Glitter]

PsychoBlonde wrote...
I don't want to endure endless reams of Coming Of Age tales.  BRING ON THE ADULTS.

Hey there

[HolyJellyfish]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Sweet Jesus.

I intended to neither confirm, nor by a lack of confirmation confirming a lack thereof, any romance with said character either in intended or werewolf form. Looking for hidden meanings in my words is the path to madness.

You do realise we have made 80 pages squeeing/fussing over a mysterious and handsome elven lad. That the entire forum hangs upon every casual yet biting post that you make... I mean, YOU DO REALISE THIS DON'T YOU?!

*hyperventilates*

I, for one, stay optimistic

p.s I still hate Twilight. Mainly because it's given all these other shows/books more license to screw over vampire lore and make vampires some poor excuse for a supernatural being. Also, immortality is not awesome. It's supposed to suck. Fin.

I'm also pretty optimistic.

Gaider's just plain sadistic.

Give us some meat! The boys already know they are romancing Isabella, throw us a bone!

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

AHAHAH, LUCY. I LOLLED.

[HolyJellyfish]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...
I don't want to endure endless reams of Coming Of Age tales.  BRING ON THE ADULTS.

<FABIO GAZING SEDUCTIVELY>

Crap. My tea is now on my keyboard. Thanks, Lucy.

[Ex-Paladin]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Sweet Jesus.

I intended to neither confirm, nor by a lack of confirmation confirming a lack thereof, any romance with said character either in intended or werewolf form. Looking for hidden meanings in my words is the path to madness.

You do realise we have made 80 pages squeeing/fussing over a mysterious and handsome elven lad. That the entire forum hangs upon every casual yet biting post that you make... I mean, YOU DO REALISE THIS DON'T YOU?!

*hyperventilates*

I, for one, stay optimistic

p.s I still hate Twilight. Mainly because it's given all these other shows/books more license to screw over vampire lore and make vampires some poor excuse for a supernatural being. Also, immortality is not awesome. It's supposed to suck. Fin.

I'm also pretty optimistic.

Gaider's just plain sadistic.

Give us some meat! The boys already know they are romancing Isabella, throw us a bone!

This

[Leonia]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

I thought Alistair was kind of
shallow in the romance department, personally.  (And Zevran--and
Morrigan, but for very different reasons.  Leliana was the only one
I liked.)  Alistair wasn't BAD, it was just TOO AWKWARD for me.  I kept
wanting to slap him and say "dude, you're in your mid-20's.  Man up
already."  But I'm 30 and I just plain have no patience for that stuff
any more.  I don't want to endure endless reams of Coming Of Age tales. 
BRING ON THE ADULTS.

Aw, I thought Alistair's romance was very adorable and realistic, people ARE awkward when they fall in love for the first time. Especially when they have a past like Alistair's. And he *does* man up over the course of the game, didn't you just get chills during the speech at Denerim (if you make him king)?

I get the "wanting someone older and more mature" thing though.

From everything that I know of Twilight, the characterse are supposedly very shallow and one-dimensional. I don't know if that's true but with Bioware characters and romances there seems to be a lot more going on and characters change/evolve over time.

That's pretty awesome, looking forwrad to what we will experience in DA 2 in terms of romance/relationships.

Modifié par leonia42, 21 décembre 2010 - 05:48 .

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Give us some meat! The boys and girls already know they are romancing Isabella, throw us a bone!

Fixed that for ya

[Leonia]

Pseudocognition wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Give us some meat! The boys and girls already know they are romancing Isabella, throw us a bone!

Fixed that for ya

I can't remember if Isabela was confirmed as a romance for the ladies or if we just assumed she was. I am hoping she is because she's my plan B if Varric isn't available.

Modifié par leonia42, 21 décembre 2010 - 05:46 .

[HolyJellyfish]

Pseudocognition wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Give us some meat! The boys and girls already know they are romancing Isabella, throw us a bone!

Fixed that for ya

Problem is it isn't even confirmed that Isabella is willing to love on the ladies. I like to think maybe, considering DA:O, but who knows. It still isn't confirmed. For the boys though? Oh they know.

We don't get nuttin! 

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Who needs confirmation? It's Isabela. XD;

[Thestral]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

Hey there

HA. I lolled. :'D

leonia42 wrote...

That's pretty awesome, looking forwrad to what we will experience in DA 2 in terms of romance/relationships.

So much this. Including platonic relationships.

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Give us some meat! The boys already know they are romancing Isabella, throw us a bone!

^ This. xD
Although... given DA:O, I like to think that in DA2 Isabella swings both ways and is an option for both m!Hawke and Ladyhawke. But I mean... it's Isabella, so there can't be much to worry about? xD;

Modifié par Thestral, 21 décembre 2010 - 05:50 .

[PsychoBlonde]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

I loved Alistair's romance, if only because it took a stereotype and spun it on its head.

Instead of chasing after the virgin girl, you are chasing after the virgin boy  That trope doesn't exist in popular culture unless you are mocking it.

The whole romance with Alistair made me feel like Stacey's Mom, here to teach the inexperienced young man about sex so he can go off and have a Real Life.  But of course he'll always remember me fondly.  Bleh.  I felt like a cougar.  It was a relief to foist him off on Anora.

[Leonia]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...

I loved Alistair's romance, if only because it took a stereotype and spun it on its head.

Instead of chasing after the virgin girl, you are chasing after the virgin boy  That trope doesn't exist in popular culture unless you are mocking it.

The whole romance with Alistair made me feel like Stacey's Mom, here to teach the inexperienced young man about sex so he can go off and have a Real Life.  But of course he'll always remember me fondly.  Bleh.  I felt like a cougar.  It was a relief to foist him off on Anora.

RPing-wise, our characters were about the same age as most of our companions so.. you don't have to feel like a cougar

[slimgrin]

Pseudocognition wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

They were both experimented on, if I'm not mistaken. The design similarities ( geometric tattoos ) are there as well.

They were designed by the same person? And Fenris' model doesn't have the tattoos.
I mean, sure there are broad similarities... I'm just wondering if your post meant to convey a finger-pointing tone or a casual observation tone?

Miranda and Jacob both work for Cerberus and both wear obscenely tight outfits but they're verrrrry different...

Their origins are similar, the skin markings are similar, be they tattoos or otherwise. It's an observation, but also a desire to see Fenris be as far from Jack in personality as possible. 

Modifié par slimgrin, 21 décembre 2010 - 05:52 .

[Ryzaki]

...If Fenris is anything like Jack I'm done.



Honestly Jack was one of those characters where I just sat there thinking "WTF is she on my ship? Has Shepard lost his mind?"

[PsychoBlonde]

leonia42 wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...

I loved Alistair's romance, if only because it took a stereotype and spun it on its head.

Instead of chasing after the virgin girl, you are chasing after the virgin boy  That trope doesn't exist in popular culture unless you are mocking it.

The whole romance with Alistair made me feel like Stacey's Mom, here to teach the inexperienced young man about sex so he can go off and have a Real Life.  But of course he'll always remember me fondly.  Bleh.  I felt like a cougar.  It was a relief to foist him off on Anora.

RPing-wise, our characters were about the same age as most of our companions so.. you don't have to feel like a cougar

Emotional age and physical age are not the same thing.  I can't tolerate being both mate and mama. 

Edit:  Actually, I don't tolerate being mama even to actual children very well.

Modifié par PsychoBlonde, 21 décembre 2010 - 05:55 .

[HolyJellyfish]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...

I loved Alistair's romance, if only because it took a stereotype and spun it on its head.

Instead of chasing after the virgin girl, you are chasing after the virgin boy  That trope doesn't exist in popular culture unless you are mocking it.

The whole romance with Alistair made me feel like Stacey's Mom, here to teach the inexperienced young man about sex so he can go off and have a Real Life.  But of course he'll always remember me fondly.  Bleh.  I felt like a cougar.  It was a relief to foist him off on Anora.

... That poor poor boy.
But Anora is pretty talented when it comes to MAN children, considering her last husband.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

slimgrin wrote...

Their origins are similar, the skin markings are similar, be they tattoos or otherwise. It's an observation, but also a desire to see Fenris be as far from Jack in personality as possible. 

I don't see much similarity at all tbh. But I think being written by different people (I assume -- who wrote Jack?) will help distance them.

I like Jack. ;____;

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 21 décembre 2010 - 05:57 .

[Ziggeh]

Ryzaki wrote...
Honestly Jack was one of those characters where I just sat there thinking "WTF is she on my ship? Has Shepard lost his mind?"

Look at it from a military perspective, she's the last one I'd wanna mess with.

[Dunedien]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

Erm... How did we go from talking about Fenris to a Twilight discussion...?

Well, we're talking about romance in general and Twilight tends to get brought up in those circumstances because, you know, popular.

I thought Alistair was kind of shallow in the romance department, personally.  (And Zevran--and Morrigan, but for very different reasons.  Leliana was the only one I liked.)  Alistair wasn't BAD, it was just TOO AWKWARD for me.  I kept wanting to slap him and say "dude, you're in your mid-20's.  Man up already."  But I'm 30 and I just plain have no patience for that stuff any more.  I don't want to endure endless reams of Coming Of Age tales.  BRING ON THE ADULTS.

That's interesting. I always found Alistair adorible. <3It's the fact that he had utterly no idea what he was doing and yet was still trying so hard to persue a relationship (if you gave off the right signs of interest) that make it romantic, as opposed to Zev who (and I know I will probably be shot for this) seemed so sure of himself I was rolling my eyes every other conversation with him and telling him to basically stuff it the 1st playthrough. I had to endure tons of rediculous pick ups simply to progress to the point he said anything indicating he had a meaningful emotional attatchment to my character at all, and then I STILL had to endure the terrible pick up lines. Lelliana I never tried, so I can't say anything about her.

Obviously with the game there can only be so much depth to each NPC, so neither was overly complex. Here's to hoping Fenris is more like Sten in that you really have to work to get through his shell.

[slimgrin]

ziggehunderslash wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
Honestly Jack was one of those characters where I just sat there thinking "WTF is she on my ship? Has Shepard lost his mind?"

Look at it from a military perspective, she's the last one I'd wanna mess with.

Given her unstable personality, she was the first one I intended to mess with, ie: manipulate. And I did. Samara is actually the last one on that crew I'd want to mess with. Off topic, sorry.

I really am curious as hell to see what Fenris is like.

[PsychoBlonde]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

... That poor poor boy.
But Anora is pretty talented when it comes to MAN children, considering her last husband.

I was sort of hoping that I managed to knock off enough of Alistair's childishness that he and Anora could actually have a shot at having a good relationship.  The epilogue seemed to hint that way, anyhoo.  I hope they have lots of babies.  I really, REALLY wanted to be able to haul Alistair aside by his ear and say something like "don't cheat on her--give this marriage thing a real chance and for Andraste's sake HAVE A LEGITIMATE HEIR".  But it's probably a slim chance considering how very one-dimensional his view of Morrigan was.

Leliana was the only one of the romance options who struck me as having a mature adult attitude toward the whole business.  Zevran was much deeper than he initially seemed, sure--but that just begs the question of why he was pretending to be shallow in the first place.  And Morrigan was too wrapped up in her personal beliefs to really connect with you (or anyone).

[PsychoBlonde]

Dunedien wrote...

Obviously with the game there can only be so much depth to each NPC, so neither was overly complex. Here's to hoping Fenris is more like Sten in that you really have to work to get through his shell.

WIN.  But not like Morrigan (who you also have to work at).  You had to work to gain Sten's respect, but once you had it, you had it.  Morrigan, on the other hand, continued rebuilding her wall and shoving you away.  I like "it's hard to get close" but I don't like "the closer you get, the harder I push back".

[Dunedien]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

WIN.  But not like Morrigan (who you also have to work at).  You had to work to gain Sten's respect, but once you had it, you had it.  Morrigan, on the other hand, continued rebuilding her wall and shoving you away.  I like "it's hard to get close" but I don't like "the closer you get, the harder I push back".

Agreed. Morrigan was like pushing rubber, the more you push the harder the you need to work to get any further. Her quest was the lifesaver when trying to crack her, along with lots and lots of gold.
P.S. I like your sig quote.