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[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

yoshibb wrote...

So if what you're saying turns out to be true, what do you think would happen if Hawke didn't honor him with insults or complain about how full of himself he is, but instead just ignored it or didn't give him the reaction he was expecting? I mean up to this point he may be used to women fainting or men being scared of him. Maybe that's what the rivalry path is all about, Fenris doing things to try to be noticed by Hawke. It was said that the rivalry path led to the rival trying to one up and out do Hawke.

Eh this is more than I can infer from the story. Assuming the friendship path is getting revenge, and the rival path is getting him to cover his tracks and hide...
My best guess is that with a friend he'll like having someone who understands him and someone he can trust. Sort of the slow, gentle route to mellowing out. With a rival maybe all of his antagonistic energy goes towards Hawke, because by covering his tracks I am guessing he doesn't get to incite conflict with hunters in the streets, and he mellows out elsewhere but grumbles at Hawke. Because the guy needs to find the happy emotional/behavioral medium, otherwise he's going to endanger my party :|

I'd guess he's the rivalmance only. He seems to like conflict. A lot. But he might not be interested in someone who agrees with him as more than a friend. Maybe he likes the challenge. Feeds off the annoyance of someone who isn't intimidated by him enough to do what he wants. Reeeeally wants to get the upper hand. That's an unsubstantiated guess, though, it's just what i want, and this was a paragraph of Pseudo fantasy presented as legitimate speculation. (Surprise!)

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 22 février 2011 - 02:50 .

[Tealsie]

Fenris could also be a Casanova. Rather confident and suave, but still flees when in danger(not necessarily through a lack of confidence in his own abilities, but just to avoid an unnecessary fight. Too much stress/fuss/racket?) Could be in the past he seduced someone before the inevitable flight from town, leaving only a giggling, blushing, sillycreature when the guards questioned after him.

...I'm mostly kidding. I like and agree with RosaAquafire's description.

[Fangirl17]

Sigh,I guess Im not really good with how to express how I feel on teh internetz.Me for the last 10 minutes:"But I...I didnt mean...oh so I took that wrong...but..OK just leave me alone :~;"

[LittleLuey]

stephen1493 wrote...

LittleLuey wrote...

I think this is a good discussion. I'm still voting on he has more of a warped sense of humor than consciously trying to be a jerk, at least as far as this situation goes.

As far as doing things to get Hawke to notice him, I find that so elementary school, it's actually pretty hysterical. I kinda hope and not hope that this is the case.

Hawke: WHO STOLE MY JUICE BOX!?!?:ph34r:

Fenris: Ow! Don't punch me, stupid girl!

Hawke: That's my juice box! H-hey, don't pull my hair! I'll sock ya a good one!

Fenris: Just try it--

Varric: If you two don't knock it off, I will make you stand out in the hall during story time. Now shush up and color with your crayons.

Fenris/Hawke: <_<

Varric: Now, class, let's get ready to hear another tale about the Grey Wardens of Ferelden~

Modifié par LittleLuey, 22 février 2011 - 02:51 .

[Ryzaki]

Pseudocognition wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

A true stoic wouldn't have felt such glee over a scared woman. Nor would he have openly reveled in it. 

Indeed. Regarding Fenris I've taking 'stoic' to just mean 'past Alistair towards stoic on the sliding scale of emotional and stoic.'

I'm a bit peeved that word was used to describe him now. I adore stoics. I adored Sten's dry humor and Squall's detachement.

I got a whole bunch of expectations crushed because of that damn word.  

Modifié par Ryzaki, 22 février 2011 - 02:51 .

[Astoria]

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

My interpretation of the situation: He ran because he second-guessed himself and/or was actually afraid, but not consciously. Don't expect me to prove it, 'cause I don't have any evidence.

I think it had more to do with the sniper on the roof. Being exposed in the open like that is a huge tactical disadvantage. 

[Fangirl17]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

RosaAquafire wrote...

Running the risk of looking like I'm begging people to pay attention to me, does anyone have any thoughts on my interpretation? You might want to google the Monkeysphere to get a better idea of what I mean (language warning.) I think that basically everyone is outside of Fenris's monkeysphere until he actually has experiences with them that make them into real people with feelings and emotions in his eyes.

I like that interpretation, actually. 

Fangirl17 wrote...

Okaaay I get it Im wrong *flails arms* I just wanted to express that er I dont even know anymore >___<

Dude. 



No one is flaming you.

I know but with everyonne going at me at once I was like ...D: and I tend to take things too personally x3

[RosaAquafire]

Pseudocognition wrote...

I'd guess he's the rivalmance only.

I keep seeing this and can find no evidence ;_;! Is it confirmed that there are some characters which are only available as romances on one path, and not the other? I really would rather friendship romance Fenris, personally, and I'm getting terribly nervous.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Astoria wrote...

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

My interpretation of the situation: He ran because he second-guessed himself and/or was actually afraid, but not consciously. Don't expect me to prove it, 'cause I don't have any evidence.

I think it had more to do with the sniper on the roof. Being exposed in the open like that is a huge tactical disadvantage. 

That makes sense. That also explains leaping indoors.

[stephen1493]

LittleLuey wrote...

stephen1493 wrote...

LittleLuey wrote...

I think this is a good discussion. I'm still voting on he has more of a warped sense of humor than consciously trying to be a jerk, at least as far as this situation goes.

As far as doing things to get Hawke to notice him, I find that so elementary school, it's actually pretty hysterical. I kinda hope and not hope that this is the case.

Hawke: WHO STOLE MY JUICE BOX!?!?:ph34r:

Fenris: Ow! Don't punch me, stupid girl!

Hawke: That's my juice box! H-hey, don't pull my hair! I'll sock ya a good one!

Fenris: Just try it--

Varric: If you two don't knock it off, I will make you stand out in the hall durning story time. Now shush up and color with your crayons.

Fenris/Hawke: <_<

Varric: Now, class, let's get ready to hear another tale about the Grey Wardens of Ferelden~

Isabella walks in. "Oh, Is it story time? I'll take it from here hairball."B)

Once upon a time the strong, beautiful, witty, smart, sexy, dashing Isabella resided in a land called "The Pearl." it was there that the voluptious pirate met the young fereldan prince and his fiancee...:innocent:

Modifié par stephen1493, 22 février 2011 - 02:53 .

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

RosaAquafire wrote...
I keep seeing this and can find no evidence ;_;! Is it confirmed that there are some characters which are only available as romances on one path, and not the other? I really would rather friendship romance Fenris, personally, and I'm getting terribly nervous.

I wouldn't worry. I think that was a rumor.

And if you missed it, at the end of that paragraph I wrote:

That's an unsubstantiated guess, though, it's just what i want, and this
was a paragraph of Pseudo fantasy presented as legitimate speculation.
(Surprise!)

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 22 février 2011 - 03:04 .

[Most Definitely Sane]

Ryzaki wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

A true stoic wouldn't have felt such glee over a scared woman. Nor would he have openly reveled in it. 

Indeed. Regarding Fenris I've taking 'stoic' to just mean 'past Alistair towards stoic on the sliding scale of emotional and stoic.'

I'm a bit peeved that word was used to describe him now. I adore stoics. I adored Sten's dry humor and Squall's detachement.

I got a whole bunch of expectations crushed because of that damn word.  

I'm so glad I wasn't the only person who was saddened they discovered that he wasn't stoic.
On the bright side, he's still intriguing.

[RosaAquafire]

I did miss it because I'm the queen of tunnel vision. Thanks

I really hope every romance has both paths.

[Ryzaki]

Most Definitely Sane wrote...
I'm so glad I wasn't the only person who was saddened they discovered that he wasn't stoic.
On the bright side, he's still intriguing.

Yes he is. 

Though thankfully this makes my possibility for a brawl on the rival path a bit higher. 

[yoshibb]

Pseudocognition wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

So if what you're saying turns out to be true, what do you think would happen if Hawke didn't honor him with insults or complain about how full of himself he is, but instead just ignored it or didn't give him the reaction he was expecting? I mean up to this point he may be used to women fainting or men being scared of him. Maybe that's what the rivalry path is all about, Fenris doing things to try to be noticed by Hawke. It was said that the rivalry path led to the rival trying to one up and out do Hawke.

Eh this is more than I can infer from the story. Assuming the friendship path is getting revenge, and the rival path is getting him to cover his tracks and hide...
My best guess is that with a friend he'll like having someone who understands him and someone he can trust. Sort of the slow, gentle route to mellowing out. With a rival maybe all of his antagonistic energy goes towards Hawke, because by covering his tracks I am guessing he doesn't get to incite conflict with hunters in the streets, and he mellows out elsewhere. Because the guy needs to find the happy emotional/behavioral medium, otherwise he's going to endanger my party :|

I'd guess he's the rivalmance only. He seems to like conflict. A lot. But he might not be interested in someone who agrees with him as more than a friend. Maybe he likes the challenge. Feeds off the annoyance of someone who isn't intimidated by him enough to do what he wants. Reeeeally wants to get the upper hand. That's an unsubstantiated guess, though, it's just what i want, and this was a paragraph of Pseudo fantasy presented as legitimate speculation. (Surprise!)

This is kind of what I was inferring to. Hawke presents something different from what he's used to and he expends more energy trying to challenge her. And when Hawke doesn't react the way he wanted, he gets annoyed and tries even harder to intimidate Hawke, until it reaches a boiling point and even more feelings come into play. I'd think (if he was more arrogant) he'd like the insults, and he'd just continue as he'd been doing. I would not want to do that or just do whatever he wanted in a more friendship type plot. 

[stephen1493]

RosaAquafire wrote...

I did miss it because I'm the queen of tunnel vision. Thanks
I really hope every romance has both paths.

That would definitly beat the Rivalry only rumor for one of them.

I'm still a bit peeved at the thought that the only way to seduce a character is to think differently from them.<_<

[Fangirl17]

*sigh*Just a little more than two weeks away >.< Heh,Im more excited about this game then my 19th birthday on the 28th.

[RosaAquafire]

stephen1493 wrote...
That would definitly beat the Rivalry only rumor for one of them.

This is the thing, really, I'm wondering where this rumour came from. Is it actually a 100% for sure thing? Everyone seems convinced there's one character who can't be romanced on the friendship path, and nobody knows why they think this or where it was said.

[Gikia-Kimikia]

RosaAquafire wrote...

I did miss it because I'm the queen of tunnel vision. Thanks
I really hope every romance has both paths.

I hope the romances all have the two paths as well. It seems much more interesting to experiment with both a tsundere-like relationship and a lovey-dovey relationship with the same character, than to have romance limited so much by disagreement.
But, y'know, that's just me. *shrug*

[stephen1493]

RosaAquafire wrote...

stephen1493 wrote...
That would definitly beat the Rivalry only rumor for one of them.

This is the thing, really, I'm wondering where this rumour came from. Is it actually a 100% for sure thing? Everyone seems convinced there's one character who can't be romanced on the friendship path, and nobody knows why they think this or where it was said.

I believe that it was Gaider who alluded to the possibility.
Wasn't a confirmation, but it did put a spark in my fire of apprehension.

Hopefully it's for Isabella when you want more than a fling, other than  not really having a romance but you are making whoopie every now and then.

Modifié par stephen1493, 22 février 2011 - 03:03 .

[Riona45]

RosaAquafire wrote...

stephen1493 wrote...
That would definitly beat the Rivalry only rumor for one of them.

This is the thing, really, I'm wondering where this rumour came from. Is it actually a 100% for sure thing? Everyone seems convinced there's one character who can't be romanced on the friendship path, and nobody knows why they think this or where it was said.

Indeed, if it's not just a rumor I would love to see proof of it.

[Tealsie]

It's too bad that it looks like Fenris is the only character not available in the demo(if I remember right), or we might have a better idea of himself come tomorrow. damn

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

Pseudocognition wrote...

Astoria wrote...

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

My interpretation of the situation: He ran because he second-guessed himself and/or was actually afraid, but not consciously. Don't expect me to prove it, 'cause I don't have any evidence.

I think it had more to do with the sniper on the roof. Being exposed in the open like that is a huge tactical disadvantage. 

That makes sense. That also explains leaping indoors.

Hmm... forgot that sniper. I do have evidence, albeit highly shaky and easily disputable.

And I just had another idea about the cleavage thing: He was being a typical man male for a few seconds. Chick walks by wearing something way too low cut and most of them go: O_O *Eyes follow breasts*.  Probably completely wrong though.

[stephen1493]

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

Astoria wrote...

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

My interpretation of the situation: He ran because he second-guessed himself and/or was actually afraid, but not consciously. Don't expect me to prove it, 'cause I don't have any evidence.

I think it had more to do with the sniper on the roof. Being exposed in the open like that is a huge tactical disadvantage. 

That makes sense. That also explains leaping indoors.

Hmm... forgot that sniper. I do have evidence, albeit highly shaky and easily disputable.

And I just had another idea about the cleavage thing: He was being a typical man male for a few seconds. Chick walks by wearing something way too low cut and most of them go: O_O *Eyes follow breasts*.  Probably completely wrong though.

No, we stare at there personalities.

Modifié par stephen1493, 22 février 2011 - 03:07 .