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[Xewaka]

LukaCrosszeria wrote...
Whirlwind is also a 2H skill. I haven't seen any kind of indomitable-type skill for Fenris yet.

Strenght and damage mitigation give knockdown resistance.

[Ryzaki]

LukaCrosszeria wrote...
I noticed that too, there seems to be a cooldown for the health potion? I've had both Carver and Aveline die on me in the demo because they didn't take the health potion.

<_< *vows to pour health potion down Fenris' throat at signs of obstinance*

Whirlwind is also a 2H skill. I haven't seen any kind of indomitable-type skill for Fenris yet.

Yeah I think it's like 40 seconds? It's a damn long cooldown. And I couldn't find out how to tell it was done.  

LOL

Indomitable was my skill. I loved it. If its not on 2HDs anymore I'll be sad. 

[LukaCrosszeria]

Mike said in the video that Carver wasn't so tough armor-wise, but he did a lot of damage. Looks like we'll be having to keep the healing handy for Fenris. Unless he manages to hit so hard they go down before he gets hurt too badly.

[stephen1493]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

stephen1493 wrote...

I have gay friends and bi Friends.

Please don't turn this into a witch hunt just because I'm saying that not everyone can completly accept a gay romance figure.

It's not and I'm not.   I'm a straight male who doesn't play S/S romances in these games because I can't identify with either of the participants and I need to in order to enjoy it.  . That being said, I wouldn't use such arguments against it - like "oh he's smaller so he must be the effeminate one" - and even reading them bothers me.  

I'm not attacking people.  I'm attacking arguments.  There is a difference, no matter how many times people try to tell me - often in fanthreads - there isn't.  

Finally, I added enough qualifiers in my post to make it clear - at least in my estimation - that I was talking about several people across several threads and not just you.  I'll make it even clearer:  That post was not directed straight at you.

This arguement did get blown out of proportion. Apologies to anyone I may have offended. Here's hoping we can still be fellow forumites.

Edit: we cool. As if I could ever stay mad at Ron ****ing Swanson.

Modifié par stephen1493, 27 février 2011 - 05:23 .

[Fault Girl]

I had the same problem with PC's dying. I even died, I wasn't use to no auto attack. And i forgot to align potions to a button which I usually do. I swear the heal spell took longer to use than it did in origins.

[plumededragop]

happy-emu wrote...

LukaCrosszeria wrote...

Oghren did last longer than Sten. Let's hope Fenris' lyrium tattoos help him stay on his feet too.

Edit:l I just saw him use Rally too.

He was pretty damn fast in that video (the demo in the mansion) and he seemed a lot better at NOT getting knocked on his ass. I'm worried about the aggro mechanics though, if he indeed does high damage.

Two-handed weapons were one thing I was definitely hoping might be improved, and at least at a glance Fenris looks capable. Not sure of him tanking, though...

Remember in DAO, they said that ennemies attack the one with the heaviest armour first. Not only we're not sure how "heavy" his armour is, but yes, we'll have to do without "aggro skill" if you don't reach in the right talent tree.
Considering armours will be updated but NOT change, I don't know how Fenris will be used as a tank.
However, I'll stick him to the 2H Weapons like I did for Oghren in DAO, but use him as a tank whenever I can and if I don't have Aveline with me.

[LukaCrosszeria]

 Lmao I was just looking at the video again when Fenris is talking about the magister, and you can totally see a guy in the background scratch his behind. 

Edit: so from the party picker I see by the time you can recruit Fenris, Aveline, Merrill, Varric and Anders are recruit, with Aveline being level 7. This would then take place before the demo scene with Isabela .

Modifié par LukaCrosszeria, 27 février 2011 - 05:35 .

[Ryzaki]

LukaCrosszeria wrote...

 Lmao I was just looking at the video again when Fenris is talking about the magister, and you can totally see a guy in the background scratch his behind. 

Wait really? LOL

Though I guess I'm gonna have to boost Fenris' Strength and Cunning then. 

[plumededragop]

LukaCrosszeria wrote...

 Lmao I was just looking at the video again when Fenris is talking about the magister, and you can totally see a guy in the background scratch his behind. 

Mmm, they did add more realism in everyday-life in this game, then.

[upsettingshorts]

LukaCrosszeria wrote...

 Lmao I was just looking at the video again when Fenris is talking about the magister, and you can totally see a guy in the background scratch his behind. 

I haven't referenced it in a while and I need to in order to fill my quota, so, here's some off topic lulz:

In Age of Conan one of the many pre-set NPC animations for male mobs was urinating.  If you engaged them while they were, well, doing their business it would go flying everywhere as they fought back with their pants unzipped.  MANY LULZ WERE HAD. 

Resume discussion!  

[Ryzaki]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

I see so many fangirls on every side of the spectrum saying "Oh, I hope he's not bi, just because he doesn't 'feel' bi." I've seen it as far back as when ME2 came out. And that's usually the opinion they have about an LI they intend to pursue. And I've done it too. I can't even explain why it would affect me at all, which makes it even sillier. And I've tried to justify it, used arguments for why they're straight, used the line, 'and I really don't care if he were bi, that's cool, I just don't see it'. But in all honesty, I'm just full of it. For some reason I just don't want my preferred LI to be 'the bi one'.

I'm not saying everyone or even anyone here is doing that, but I just get that feeling from time to time on these forums.

Which is why I really hope they're all bi. Then it wouldn't be a situation where one LI seems 'straighter' or 'less straight' than the other. Maybe they were bi before or maybe Hawke is an exception because it's Hawke and Hawke is sexy. Maybe they don't have to talk about their preferences (otherwise we might get another Zevran situation which would be unfair). This is preferable to me, at least.

And Aris you aren't the only one who started out like this. 

[elirian_19]

@Upsettingshorts Seriously?? I NEED TO YOUTUBE IT.

[stephen1493]

elirian_19 wrote...

@Upsettingshorts Seriously?? I NEED TO YOUTUBE IT.

I demand "I believe I can Fly" be playing in the background of said clip.

[happy-emu]

Ryzaki wrote...

You have friends that know you play DAO and expect you to do it for the m/m romance? They assume you're a yaoi fangirl then?

Yep. I guess it's because I like some anime and sometimes (geek alert) RP in LJ, often as characters that are fan-favored as candidates for yaoi. Or maybe it's because I'm a girl and they suck. :-/

And it's a general assumption where I am that girls play BW games for the romance period. Gay straight doesn't matter. They just play it because it's a romance novel that's interactive and they can play their mary sue fantasies to the fullest.

Because girls never play games to hack imaginary foes to pieces or for epic stories and characters. Yeah, I get that sometimes too. But I think we are (very, painfully slowly) getting over the years where the only games girls were expected to like involved Barbie.

I didn't mean you specifically. I was talking about the people that keep calling him Zevran 2.0. Anders showed no bisexual tendances in Awakening. He know shows them in DA2 after he's been possessed by a demon? There is a view held by certain people that being gay/bisexual means you are demonic. And yeah personally I disliked Anders. He wasn't my cup of tea. 

I will probably end up romancing everyone. But FemHawke seems to be giving me FemShep syndrome and I don't know if I'll be able to play her. 

If Ander does wind up being bi, I think it'll be because he's always had that trait. I mentioned in another post that I got the bi vibe from him in some of his dialog in Awakenings, but I can see how the tone of things comes across differently to different people.

I actually like FemShep, but I play her mostly as renegade. I haven't played the demo yet (hate demos, they tease me) but Hawkette looks like she needs to be... meaner? I guess I'll have to see. She'll be my first playthrough, but it's hard choosing which side I'll have her on.

[lnicol1900]

*phew* Finally caught up with this thread... and then had to catch up again. You guys certainly find interesting topics to talk about, and I always seem to miss them.

I just had a thought. From what we've seen through gameplay vids, we know that Fenris can be recruited quite early in the game. We also know, from Varric's narration, that Hawke spends his/her first year in Kirkwall settling debts with mercenaries.

Does anyone think Fenris might have something to say about that? On that note, does anyone think he might comment on other areas of Hawke's life?

Modifié par lnicol1900, 27 février 2011 - 05:41 .

[happy-emu]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

LukaCrosszeria wrote...

 Lmao I was just looking at the video again when Fenris is talking about the magister, and you can totally see a guy in the background scratch his behind. 

I haven't referenced it in a while and I need to in order to fill my quota, so, here's some off topic lulz:

In Age of Conan one of the many pre-set NPC animations for male mobs was urinating.  If you engaged them while they were, well, doing their business it would go flying everywhere as they fought back with their pants unzipped.  MANY LULZ WERE HAD. 

Resume discussion!  

I...I... what.

That, my friend, is a discussion stopper, and I don't believe any of us can go on without seeing this in some video form.

[hekalite]

damn...wrong thread

Modifié par hekalite, 27 février 2011 - 05:46 .

[Ryzaki]

happy-emu wrote...
Yep. I guess it's because I like some anime and sometimes (geek alert) RP in LJ, often as characters that are fan-favored as candidates for yaoi. Or maybe it's because I'm a girl and they suck. :-/

LOL I can't RP in LJ I feel odd. 

Could be they just like your characters. Take it for a compliment. 
 

Because girls never play games to hack imaginary foes to pieces or for epic stories and characters. Yeah, I get that sometimes too. But I think we are (very, painfully slowly) getting over the years where the only games girls were expected to like involved Barbie.

Slowly but surely. But of course there are those that play into the sterotype (Heck I did start out playing BW games only for the romances. I've since grown to appreciate other things and other genres and the freedom of choice in decisions but I started out in the sterotypical way). 

If Ander does wind up being bi, I think it'll be because he's always had that trait. I mentioned in another post that I got the bi vibe from him in some of his dialog in Awakenings, but I can see how the tone of things comes across differently to different people.

I had no such vibes. To me Anders doesn't seem like the type to be bashful. And he would hit on someone just to get under their skin. Yet somehow he doesn't hit on either the Warden (and the Warden isn't allowed to hit on him) or Nate? It's...odd if he was truly bisexual all along.

I actually like FemShep, but I play her mostly as renegade. I haven't played the demo yet (hate demos, they tease me) but Hawkette looks like she needs to be... meaner? I guess I'll have to see. She'll be my first playthrough, but it's hard choosing which side I'll have her on.

I can't play as renegade too often. Too much douchebag for my tastes.  And I know I'm in a minority but Hale's voice makes me turn the game off. Meer maybe flat but he isn't annoying. And Female Hawke is just bleh. Male Hawke to me sounds decent. But of course different strokes for different folks. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 février 2011 - 05:45 .

[Fenn_]

Ryzaki wrote...

LukaCrosszeria wrote...
I noticed that too, there seems to be a cooldown for the health potion? I've had both Carver and Aveline die on me in the demo because they didn't take the health potion.

<_< *vows to pour health potion down Fenris' throat at signs of obstinance*

Whirlwind is also a 2H skill. I haven't seen any kind of indomitable-type skill for Fenris yet.

Yeah I think it's like 40 seconds? It's a damn long cooldown. And I couldn't find out how to tell it was done.  

LOL

Indomitable was my skill. I loved it. If its not on 2HDs anymore I'll be sad. 

It's not in the game or at least I can't find it on the wiki but I did find  resilience in the defender line dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Defender_talents

[Phoenix_Valkyre]

Tashash wrote...

Alright Fenfans - Ficcie!
Ties in with my 'Trust' Propmt, spanning that, the 'Angstfic' (Which I will name 'Witchcraft' from here on) and through 'Smile' parts 1 and 2. - I hope that makes sense!
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Need.

He needed her.

Fenris didn’t remember ever being as close to another as he did to Hawke.

It was possible that he never actually had, how could one possibly feel this way more than once? He had never met anyone even remotely like her, that he was sure of – Thedas could not possibly contain more than one Navessa Hawke.

At first she had just been the means to an end, a third party hired by Anso to keep the hunters busy. He had been glad of her understanding of his situation and he had barely managed to hide his shock when she offered her help with Denerius. He had wondered how such a naive or kind person had managed to survive.

The fight through the mansion had answered that question. Even facing the Demonspawn that Denerius had summoned she was brilliant. She was as powerful a Mage as his former master had ever been, with a quick eye and an intelligent mind. Kind she might be, Hawke was no pushover. That power had worried him for some time; he was not at ease around Mages and magic.

They had not found Denerius, Fenris had been angry about that. He wanted his freedom, to no longer have to run or hide and that could only be accomplished by his former master’s death. He was not sure what had possessed him to ask to remain with her, possibly his heart had known what it needed long before he had.

He had kept apart from the others as best he could, it wasn’t just that he disliked being touched, there was simply too much he didn’t want others to know about him, too much even he didn’t know anymore. His time on the run had seriously damaged his sociability. If they didn’t get close they couldn’t hurt him. He had been adamant about not letting anyone get close.

Until that night, when she had broken down his door in order to take care of his wounds. He had been certain that he could take care of himself, but his injured wrist had made things hard...Truth be told if Hawke hadn’t shown up he would have been in trouble. But he couldn’t admit it then, had told her to get out, she had refused and started to scream at him.

In that moment he had seen a darker side to her, frustration and anger, and he had acutely felt how vulnerable he was at that moment. He remembered what Denerius could be like when angered and what it had meant for Fenris; he had fearfully reverted back to the broken slave he had been.

But she had let the anger fade, had once again been gentle and caring. Had asked him to trust her and for once in a very long time, he had. He could vividly remember her hands cradling his wrist, the warm rush of her magic through him. It had startled him, when Denerius had used his magic on him it had burned through him; a fiery agony. Hawke’s magic was like warm sunlight washing into him.   

He had been enthralled by the sensation, and when she had asked about his brands he had answered her without question. When her thumbs had ghosted over them the shock of actually feeling pleasure had made him gasp. Her worry that she had hurt him had undone him.   

After that he had let her heal him when he needed it, and the way she smiled at him for it was worth the risk. He had begun to consider her a friend, to open up to her and it had seemed to make his life a little brighter. He would even go as far to say he was happy.

And then Denerius had found him again. The mercenaries had been careful and uncompromising. He had fought as much for her as he had fought for himself, but had still lost.

In the few hours of his captivity two things had terrified Fenris the most. That Hawke wouldn’t come and the she would. His thoughts still shied away from those hours. Denerius had first tried to talk him into staying, honeyed words that had repulsed him. When that failed the mage had tried to force his compliance, and it still caused Fenris to wake in a cold sweat remembering that it would have succeeded...

But for Hawke, running into the room and commanding the mage to stop. And then his fear had been all for her, Denerius was powerful – what if he hurt her? What if he killed her? He has begged her to run, realising in that moment that he cared what happened to her more than himself. It was not entirely unselfish – without her, the one person he could trust, the one friend he had, what would he do?

The sickeningly intimate touch to his leg had made him shudder, but Hawke’s anger had warmed him. And her foiling of Denerius’ trap had made him proud. Hawke was far too clever to fall for that trick. Her assurance facing his old master, her wit even in such a situation; she was so much stronger than he had given her credit for.

She had fought for him, as he lay bound down by Denerius’ magic and all he had wanted was to help her. When the shockwave had thrown her into the wall his heart had stopped. When it seemed as if Denerius had won it had broken. He did not hear what the magister said to her, but the flash of the knife in her hand had left him in no doubt what she thought of it.

The death of the caster had broken his bonds, but he was too weak to do more than cling to her. He had felt no shame in crying in front of her. She did not judge, she only comforted.

In the days after though, he had felt so broken. Nightmares plagued his sleep and it felt as if every shadow held unknown terrors. And from that fear was born disgust – Denerius was dead, what did he have to fear anymore? He had been too ashamed to come to Hawke with his feelings, but as always, she had known and come to him. He had tried to send her away, but as always, she did not listen.

“What do you need Fenris? Please tell me what I can do for you.”

“Anything in my power to give I will, just please, please don’t hide away, please smile again.”

Those words...the absolute conviction in them. She had meant it; he could ask anything of her. But he had only wanted one thing, the breaking of the one barrier he still kept.

He allowed her to touch him in order to heal him, but it was never more than hand to hand contact. Her holding him after his abduction was the most contact he had ever allowed. And now what he wanted, needed, was more.

But he still had been embarrassed to ask, had blushed as he did. Her thumb brushing his flaming cheek and her hand cradling his head had been soothing, her forehead pressed to his and the kiss left behind had been a benediction.

When she had sat behind him he had been nervous, not knowing what she intended, but her hands kneading his shoulders and neck had negated his nerves. The warmth of her hands and the gentle pressure had felt wonderful. Her hands running through his hair had sent shivers down his spine.

The song had stunned him, Hawke had never before sung. Her voice was slightly husky and it broke a little at the high notes but to him it was the most beautiful thing he had ever heard. The fact that it was her lost little sisters song that she sang to him made him happy – that she had shared something that meant so much to her with him.

Overcome he had kissed her palm and while he could not see her blush she was close enough for him to feel the heat from her cheeks. She had stuttered her goodbye and he was afraid he had overstepped some unwritten rule. But when he had asked her to come back the next evening her smile was as bright as ever. He realised that he had never seen Hawke with a...companion.

Neither of them were regular players in ‘The Game’ it seemed. Something was growing between them. Fenris was afraid to even give a name to it, for fear it would cause it to wither and die. But he wanted it, he needed it.

Fenris needed Hawke.

@ Tashash  You always seem to know just how to turn us all into swooning fengirls/boys! Intoxicatingly addictive and beautifully emotional, love it! Thanks for sharing! This just made my morning! *hugs*

aimo_ahmed wrote...


Click to enlarge comic

1 of 3

Co-written with Upsettingshorts and Pseudo

@ Aimo, Pseudo, & Upsettingshorts you feed the fire of our Fenris Obsession! Please don't stop! <3

@ZombieGeisha  Very nicely done!Can't wait to read the next part!

lol ok I really need to catch up on this thread...

*swoons* ZombieGeisha your fic was fantastic!! I love it!!Thank you!

@ MRC -Please don't withhold the pg 1000 ficcie!! Oooh and we're almost at 950 at which you promised us another teaser!

This thread is moving at lightning speed...took forever to catch up! Not that I'm complaining..hell all the closer to pg 1000!!

@Inicol1900  That would be interesting if once Fenris gets more acquainted with Hawke that he might offer his opinion on what is going on in her/his life...or he may just keep it bottled up but its an interesting point to ponder...

Modifié par Phoenix_Valkyre, 27 février 2011 - 05:50 .

[Ryzaki]

Fenn wrote...
It's not in the game or at least I can't find it on the wiki but I did find  resilience in the defender line dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Defender_talents

Awesome! Thanks for that. 

But aw it's no longer 2HD exclusive. 

[Xewaka]

Ryzaki wrote...
Awesome! Thanks for that. 
But aw it's no longer 2HD exclusive. 

And that's bad because..?

[Erani]

@MRC, yey almost pg 950, remember you promised!!!

[Ryzaki]

Xewaka wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
Awesome! Thanks for that. 
But aw it's no longer 2HD exclusive. 

And that's bad because..?

Because it was one of the only reasons I played 2HDs.  And by extension warriors. With the lack of DWW I have absolutely no reason to play a warrior anymore. 

[Ramante]

LukaCrosszeria wrote...

Mike said in the video that Carver wasn't so tough armor-wise, but he did a lot of damage. Looks like we'll be having to keep the healing handy for Fenris. Unless he manages to hit so hard they go down before he gets hurt too badly.

Carver may be weak armor-wise, but remember Fenris' lyrium specific skills. Didn't Gaider say something along the lines that it absorbs damage/makes it easier to evade attacks or something along those lines? And (according to the vid) one of his skills (Lyrium Ghost) makes him difficult to track on the battlefield.
One of his other skills (can't read the name), has something to do with increasing his attack damage when he gets wounded.
I wanna know more about his specific ability tree. ><'