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[Most Definitely Sane]

TheDarkestSpawn wrote...

Most Definitely Sane wrote...

We're all off topic!
Please, can someone have a serious topic that is interesting to talk about?
I've been waiting to be involved with a serious discussion and will not sleep until we get one!
How about we go back to the M/M conversation? Or anything else?

pretty sure there's a lyrium discussion right now...

Oh, there is?
Sorry, didn't see the coversation with everyone complaining about being off-topic.
Carry on.

[Imani25]

I have a question that I do not think has been brought up yet. In the gamestop interview when Hawke is asking about Fenris' marrkings he says something like, "yes, I imagine I must look strange to you," or something to that effect. If I heard it right do you think this may mean that Fenris is self-conscious about the way he looks? If so, I think this might affect the way the player's relationship with Fenris plays out, both romantically or otherwise.

[plumededragop]

Batorific wrote...

Fenn wrote...

Being more in tune with magic will get you killed around raw lyrium. Mages will die outright from raw lyrium If I recall.

thus why Tranquil and Dwarves must handle the stuff. and even DWARVES end up with bad effects from lyrium.  There's no way Fenris has raw lyrium in him. he'd be dead. no doubt the immense value of his tattoos is in the fact that its a mix of lyrium that hasn't killed him or turned him into a jibbering fool.

Exactly.
It would be nice to find exactly how Fenris was transformed while playing DA2. Maybe we will (and I hope so) or maybe we won't and it will be up to our own interpretations.

[Fenn_]

Imani25 wrote...

I have a question that I do not think has been brought up yet. In the gamestop interview when Hawke is asking about Fenris' marrkings he says something like, "yes, I imagine I must look strange to you," or something to that effect. If I heard it right do you think this may mean that Fenris is self-conscious about the way he looks? If so, I think this might affect the way the player's relationship with Fenris plays out, both romantically or otherwise.

I don't think it will be much of a problem for him I think he has accpected what he is, he doesen't even try to cover them up.

[Ryzaki]

Batorific wrote...

Fenn wrote...

Being more in tune with magic will get you killed around raw lyrium. Mages will die outright from raw lyrium If I recall.

thus why Tranquil and Dwarves must handle the stuff. and even DWARVES end up with bad effects from lyrium.  There's no way Fenris has raw lyrium in him. he'd be dead. no doubt the immense value of his tattoos is in the fact that its a mix of lyrium that hasn't killed him or turned him into a jibbering fool.

I wonder if there's a way to use his tattoos to make people immune to lyrium's side effects (hopefully without the memory loss). Could be used to strenghten Templars if one sides with the Chantry. 

[Fenn_]

Ryzaki wrote...

Batorific wrote...

Fenn wrote...

Being more in tune with magic will get you killed around raw lyrium. Mages will die outright from raw lyrium If I recall.

thus why Tranquil and Dwarves must handle the stuff. and even DWARVES end up with bad effects from lyrium.  There's no way Fenris has raw lyrium in him. he'd be dead. no doubt the immense value of his tattoos is in the fact that its a mix of lyrium that hasn't killed him or turned him into a jibbering fool.

I wonder if there's a way to use his tattoos to make people immune to lyrium's side effects (hopefully without the memory loss). Could be used to strenghten Templars if one sides with the Chantry. 

I imagine any reserch involveing lyrium and liveing things will make him very angry.

[plumededragop]

Imani25 wrote...

I have a question that I do not think has been brought up yet. In the gamestop interview when Hawke is asking about Fenris' marrkings he says something like, "yes, I imagine I must look strange to you," or something to that effect. If I heard it right do you think this may mean that Fenris is self-conscious about the way he looks? If so, I think this might affect the way the player's relationship with Fenris plays out, both romantically or otherwise.

Yes, it can be. Fenris knows he looks different to other people's eyes, now how will Hawke and the companions react to it... well, it can affect our relationship with him.

[mellifera]

Imani25 wrote...

I have a question that I do not think has been brought up yet. In the gamestop interview when Hawke is asking about Fenris' marrkings he says something like, "yes, I imagine I must look strange to you," or something to that effect. If I heard it right do you think this may mean that Fenris is self-conscious about the way he looks? If so, I think this might affect the way the player's relationship with Fenris plays out, both romantically or otherwise.

I thought it was more of a matter-of-fact kind of statement. It's not exactly something he's hiding and they're quite noticable and unique markings.

[Ryzaki]

Fenn wrote...

I imagine any reserch involveing lyrium and liveing things will make him very angry.

Then Hawke has an opportunity to do it without his blessing. 

[Batorific]

plumededragop wrote...

Batorific wrote...

Fenn wrote...

Being more in tune with magic will get you killed around raw lyrium. Mages will die outright from raw lyrium If I recall.

thus why Tranquil and Dwarves must handle the stuff. and even DWARVES end up with bad effects from lyrium.  There's no way Fenris has raw lyrium in him. he'd be dead. no doubt the immense value of his tattoos is in the fact that its a mix of lyrium that hasn't killed him or turned him into a jibbering fool.

Exactly.
It would be nice to find exactly how Fenris was transformed while playing DA2. Maybe we will (and I hope so) or maybe we won't and it will be up to our own interpretations.

Well, it may also be an inevitable end.  Since we don't know exactly how long he's been fixed up like this.  Over time it might destroy his mind, since its already claimed his memory.  And it's not like you can just remove the lyrium since its tattooed over his entire body.  i can't imagine his life expectancy is long, honestly.

IF somehow you COULD remove the lyrium, he could also die from a BAD case of withdrawl. given the addictive nature of the substance. just look at templars.  and they dont have anywhere near as much exposure as Fenris.

[Fenn_]

Ryzaki wrote...

Fenn wrote...

I imagine any reserch involveing lyrium and liveing things will make him very angry.

Then Hawke has an opportunity to do it without his blessing. 

Thats a good point would be interesting if he found out Hawke was doing that stuff behind his back.

[Phoenix_Valkyre]

Fenn wrote...

Imani25 wrote...

I have a question that I do not think has been brought up yet. In the gamestop interview when Hawke is asking about Fenris' marrkings he says something like, "yes, I imagine I must look strange to you," or something to that effect. If I heard it right do you think this may mean that Fenris is self-conscious about the way he looks? If so, I think this might affect the way the player's relationship with Fenris plays out, both romantically or otherwise.

I don't think it will be much of a problem for him I think he has accpected what he is, he doesen't even try to cover them up.

True and he does say that though he didn't receive them by choice, that they have served him well..so although they've been sort of torture to him they have also given him the means of escaping slavery to the magister..

[plumededragop]

Batorific wrote...

plumededragop wrote...

Exactly.
It would be nice to find exactly how Fenris was transformed while playing DA2. Maybe we will (and I hope so) or maybe we won't and it will be up to our own interpretations.

Well, it may also be an inevitable end.  Since we don't know exactly how long he's been fixed up like this.  Over time it might destroy his mind, since its already claimed his memory.  And it's not like you can just remove the lyrium since its tattooed over his entire body.  i can't imagine his life expectancy is long, honestly.

IF somehow you COULD remove the lyrium, he could also die from a BAD case of withdrawl. given the addictive nature of the substance. just look at templars.  and they dont have anywhere near as much exposure as Fenris.

Right. But I highly doubt that we'll get the choice to remove the lyrium from him. Even if we have, as you said, he could very likely die from the experiment. If he ever accepts to do it, and I have doubts about that too.
Yes, for the templar, we had a good exemple with the one locked in Howe's cell who lost his mind. Alistair said it was side effect from less exposure to treated lyrium.

Fenn wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Fenn wrote...

I imagine any reserch involveing lyrium and liveing things will make him very angry.

Then Hawke has an opportunity to do it without his blessing. 

Thats a good point would be interesting if he found out Hawke was doing that stuff behind his back.

That can make a good case of crisis between them. He could consider this as betrayal.

[Imani25]

Well, as has been mentioned before, every one of the party members is stange in their own unique way. Though now that I think  about it, the strangeness is most pronounced in the male LIs this time for some reason. Not that I'm complaining. I think both Anders and Fenris have the most interesting backstories so far and there are tons of ways the writers could have taken advantage of their backgrounds to make for interesting interactions.

Modifié par Imani25, 28 février 2011 - 12:00 .

[Ryzaki]

Fenn wrote...

Thats a good point would be interesting if he found out Hawke was doing that stuff behind his back.

Could be a rivalary climax moment where you can try to swing him around to Hawke's point of view or are forced to capture/kill him. 

[monima]

Oh no please dont let it be another tragedy:( I had enough of that with Thane, I dont need another dying LI. And if a character has to die, dont let it be one of the females LIs. Then someone somwhere in Bioware is under the illusion women love tragedies, I dont think most of us do.

Death of a character should be a player choice!

[plumededragop]

Ryzaki wrote...

Fenn wrote...

Thats a good point would be interesting if he found out Hawke was doing that stuff behind his back.

Could be a rivalary climax moment where you can try to swing him around to Hawke's point of view or are forced to capture/kill him. 

Yes, indeed. Especially if it happens while you're in relationship with him or close to. Drama inside... I'd actually love to see that.

Imani25 wrote...

Well, as has been mentioned before, every
one of the party members is stange in their own unique way. Though now
that I think  about it, the strangeness is most pronounced in the male
LIs this time for some reason. Not that I'm complaining. I think, both
Anders and Fenris have the most interesting backstories so far and there
are tons of ways the writers could have taken advantage of their
backgrounds to make for interesting interactions.

Indeed. In DAO, the party members all had their pasts, but it wasn't too much deepened, except for Alistair and Morrigan, who play an important part in the main story.
If in DA2 all characters' stories have been worked on more deeply, that would be neat.

[Batorific]

monimakitten wrote...

Oh no please dont let it be another tragedy:( I had enough of that with Thane, I dont need another dying LI. And if a character has to die, dont let it be one of the females LIs. Then someone somwhere in Bioware is under the illusion women love tragedies, I dont think most of us do.

Death of a character should be a player choice!

i dont see how it could not be a tragedy. he sort of is already.  lyrium is pretty much fatal.  people are not meant to be walking enchantments.  But given that there are no other examples of this type of lyrium exposure... who knows? but its pretty much obvious that his mind is gonna waste away. since its already caused the memory loss.

[LukaCrosszeria]

I wonder if Fenris has ticklish feet.

[Lucy Glitter]

^ Heh. Not something I can imagine we'd find out. He is barefoot, though, which means tough skin on his feet, which means probably not. 

As long as the characters don't reveal all their problems in the first conversation. That ruins a good character.

Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 28 février 2011 - 12:08 .

[LukaCrosszeria]

 I bet M!Hawke is tickling his feet under those sheets.

[plumededragop]

Well, I'm off to bed now. Night everyone!
@Luka: You're late. See ya!

[LukaCrosszeria]

 

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

As long as the characters don't reveal all their problems in the first conversation, that ruins a good character.

My name is *sob sob sniffle* Fenris and I've been *sob* horribly abused by a magister who wants me back for monatery and possibly other fan-girl inspired perverted reasons. *sniff*

*PUPPY EYES*

[Ryzaki]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

As long as the characters don't reveal all their problems in the first conversation, that ruins a good character.

Depends on how it's done. With Miranda I found it didn't ruin her character at all. She just told you how it was and whether or not you accepted it she could careless she just thought you should know in case something came up. Similar with Thane. 

[LukaCrosszeria]

I know, I should go to bed too. I was distracted by my own mod.