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[Ryzaki]

elirian_19 wrote...

RosaAquafire wrote...

Aw, I think I'm the only person who loved Final Fantasy 8 BECAUSE of Squall and Rinoa instead of in spite of it. Personally, I'd be happy to play Hawke/Fenris like that. Yep, now everyone is gonna chase me out with pitchforks

KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!

Burn her!  

elirian_19 wrote...

I wonder if it's possible to create a Hawke who looks like Joker. That will be awesome.

As long as it's Heath Ledger's Joker. 

[elirian_19]

Ryzaki wrote...

elirian_19 wrote...

RosaAquafire wrote...

Aw, I think I'm the only person who loved Final Fantasy 8 BECAUSE of Squall and Rinoa instead of in spite of it. Personally, I'd be happy to play Hawke/Fenris like that. Yep, now everyone is gonna chase me out with pitchforks

KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!

Burn her!  

elirian_19 wrote...

I wonder if it's possible to create a Hawke who looks like Joker. That will be awesome.

As long as it's Heath Ledger's Joker. 

Sorry AquaRosafire, but this is for your own good. *starts gathering pitchforks and torches*

And definitely Heath Ledger's Joker. No will ever be as awesome a Joker as he was.

[LilyasAvalon]

Ryzaki wrote...

Though to be honest (and non-antagonistic for one) the mysterious Fenris to me wouldn't be one who would show Hawke his vulnerability. At all. He wouldn't cry in front of her, he wouldn't let himself be seen as anything other than a pillar of strength. He would rigidly control himself and be something Hawke can rely on at all times despite not being able to rely on her. He would be cold, impersonal. He would tell Hawke to continue on but never carry her, he would guard Hawke's back but never throw himself infront of her to shield her from a blow. He would be cruel to her to strengthen her.

And if he loved her he wouldn't tell her until after the Magister had been dealt with. (And frankly the ultimate mysterious Fenris wouldn't fall in love with Hawke to begin with). He would be like an aloof big brother type mentoring Hawke. The problems he has would be dealt privately and with very little outbursts. And the outburst he does have would never be around Hawke because he is her pillar and he cannot falter .

That's the ultimate mysterious tough guy.

And that to me is not romance material. YMMV of course.

Agreeing with Ryzaki here, Fenris does seem like the kind of person who would be rather cold and impersonal to help strengthen her, to let Hawke learn how to stand on her own two feet.

...However, my money is on that we get an emotional deep momenet where he completely breaks down on Hawke because he loves her like we did with Thane on ME2.

[Ryzaki]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

@Agreeing with Ryzaki here, Fenris does seem like the kind of person who would be rather cold and impersonal to help strengthen her, to let Hawke learn how to stand on her own two feet.

...However, my money is on that we get an emotional deep momenet where he completely breaks down on Hawke because he loves her like we did with Thane on ME2.

Oh god no. Breaking down ruins the tough guy/mysterious image. Ruins it completely. I couldn't take him seriously after that. I mean why be all cold and impersonal and turn around and proclaim your love? IT just strikes me as odd. 

There was this guy who never spoke to a girl, not a once. HE claimed he liked her. So one day he asked her out and she stared at him like he was insane before leaving. That's what happens when you're cold an impersonal. People don't fall all over you when you've been treating them like that. 

And ugh. Thane. I couldn't stand Thane. Too much...ughness. 

@elirian_19 : Yeah he did Joker perfectly. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 février 2011 - 09:50 .

[Some Geth]

elirian_19 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

elirian_19 wrote...

RosaAquafire wrote...

Aw, I think I'm the only person who loved Final Fantasy 8 BECAUSE of Squall and Rinoa instead of in spite of it. Personally, I'd be happy to play Hawke/Fenris like that. Yep, now everyone is gonna chase me out with pitchforks

KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!

Burn her!  

elirian_19 wrote...

I wonder if it's possible to create a Hawke who looks like Joker. That will be awesome.

As long as it's Heath Ledger's Joker. 

Sorry AquaRosafire, but this is for your own good. *starts gathering pitchforks and torches*

And definitely Heath Ledger's Joker. No will ever be as awesome a Joker as he was.

Jack was better:whistle:.

Edit:But all the cartoon ones are the best=].

Modifié par Some Geth, 28 février 2011 - 09:50 .

[LilyasAvalon]

Ryzaki wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

@Agreeing with Ryzaki here, Fenris does seem like the kind of person who would be rather cold and impersonal to help strengthen her, to let Hawke learn how to stand on her own two feet.

...However, my money is on that we get an emotional deep momenet where he completely breaks down on Hawke because he loves her like we did with Thane on ME2.

Oh god no. Breaking down ruins the tough guy/mysterious image. Ruins it completely. I couldn't take him seriously after that. I mean why be all cold and impersonal and turn around and proclaim your love? IT just strikes me as odd. 

There was this guy who never spoke to a girl, not a once. HE claimed he liked her. So one day he asked her out and she stared at him like he was insane before leaving. That's what happens when you're cold an impersonal. People don't fall all over you when you've been treating them like that. 

And ugh. Thane. I couldn't stand Thane. Too much...ughness. 

@elirian_19 : Yeah he did Joker perfectly. 

I just said my money was on it, I didn;t say I'd enjoy it, it doesn't seem to fit into Fenris' image to just randomly break down. Possibly to trust Hawke with more then he would with anyone else, yes, but not comepletly and utterly break down. Though I won't lie, I was a Thane fangirl... though I prefered Garrus more.

...Moving past that. For some reason, I'm beginning to see Fenris as like, a romancable Sten. ._.

...The only problem is, after that discussion with Morrigan Sten had about his mating habits, I'm not entirely sure how to feel...

[Ryzaki]

LilyasAvalon wrote...
I just said my money was on it, I didn;t say I'd enjoy it, it doesn't seem to fit into Fenris' image to just randomly break down. Possibly to trust Hawke with more then he would with anyone else, yes, but not comepletly and utterly break down. Though I won't lie, I was a Thane fangirl... though I prefered Garrus more.

...Moving past that. For some reason, I'm beginning to see Fenris as like, a romancable Sten. ._.

...The only problem is, after that discussion with Morrigan Sten had about his mating habits, I'm not entirely sure how to feel...

Well let's both hope you're wrong. I don't like the "I'm going to reveal to you and only you my specialist dearest that I'm vulnerable inside." Personally I prefered Kaidan. Nice, stable, not telling you his life story (well he did but he kept the "HELP ME!" out of it  or acting like you were his teacher. 

Though a romanceable Sten would've been awesome. Though you woud've needed a firepoker. 

Well I'm ready for that bad boy. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 février 2011 - 10:05 .

[keekee53]

happy-emu wrote...

koshiee wrote...

keekee53 wrote...

Habassi wrote...

I guess I'm the only one who would be really happy that Fenris turned out to be straight as an arrow. Somehow if he was bi, it would kill all the tough/mysterious guy innuendo he now has (or rather seems to have with the lack of info on him). And even though he is almost an opposite of Zev, I probably would be comparing the two half the time.

Oh, and thanks for person who posted the link to '30 Seconds To Mars - Bad Romance'. It's like a drug - I just can't stop listening

You are not alone.  I agree completely.

the implication being that if he was bi he couldn't be tough or mysterious. 

Other people have agreed or disagreed with this, and they have every right to. The element of mystery was debated (now buried under 15 pages or so) and I think keekee53 is just late to the party putting in her/his opinion.

Yes yes...sorry  I am like 30 pages behind.  This thread is moving too fast for me to keep up. I will keep my comments to myself until I have read everything.  Thanks though.

[LilyasAvalon]

Ryzaki wrote...

Well let's both hope you're wrong. I don't like the "I'm going to reveal to you and only you my specialist dearest that I'm vulnerable inside." Personally I prefered Kaidan. Nice, stable, not telling you his life story or acting like you were his teacher. 

Though a romanceable Sten would've been awesome. Though you woud've needed a firepoker. 

Well I'm ready for that bad boy. 

You saucy little minx.

And agreed, let's hope I am wrong, I probably wouldn't be able to look at Fenris the same way again.

[ReiSilver]

Some Geth wrote...

elirian_19 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

elirian_19 wrote...

RosaAquafire wrote...

Aw, I think I'm the only person who loved Final Fantasy 8 BECAUSE of Squall and Rinoa instead of in spite of it. Personally, I'd be happy to play Hawke/Fenris like that. Yep, now everyone is gonna chase me out with pitchforks

KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!

Burn her!  

elirian_19 wrote...

I wonder if it's possible to create a Hawke who looks like Joker. That will be awesome.

As long as it's Heath Ledger's Joker. 

Sorry AquaRosafire, but this is for your own good. *starts gathering pitchforks and torches*

And definitely Heath Ledger's Joker. No will ever be as awesome a Joker as he was.

Jack was better:whistle:.

Edit:But all the cartoon ones are the best=].

Mark Hamill best Joker forever and always X3

Also Fenris, Fenris Fenris Fenris.
Those images a few pages back make me want to draw Viera Fenris XP

[LukaCrosszeria]

Ryzaki wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...
I just said my money was on it, I didn;t say I'd enjoy it, it doesn't seem to fit into Fenris' image to just randomly break down. Possibly to trust Hawke with more then he would with anyone else, yes, but not comepletly and utterly break down. Though I won't lie, I was a Thane fangirl... though I prefered Garrus more.

...Moving past that. For some reason, I'm beginning to see Fenris as like, a romancable Sten. ._.

...The only problem is, after that discussion with Morrigan Sten had about his mating habits, I'm not entirely sure how to feel...

Well let's both hope you're wrong. I don't like the "I'm going to reveal to you and only you my specialist dearest that I'm vulnerable inside." Personally I prefered Kaidan. Nice, stable, not telling you his life story (well he did but he kept the "HELP ME!" out of it  or acting like you were his teacher. 

Though a romanceable Sten would've been awesome. Though you woud've needed a firepoker. 

Well I'm ready for that bad boy. 

Not really, according to some Sten/Morrigan banter, the Qunari act is "painful". ><

I want Glow-in-the-Dark. :wub::wub::wub:

[Some Geth]

ReiSilver wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

elirian_19 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

elirian_19 wrote...

RosaAquafire wrote...

Aw, I think I'm the only person who loved Final Fantasy 8 BECAUSE of Squall and Rinoa instead of in spite of it. Personally, I'd be happy to play Hawke/Fenris like that. Yep, now everyone is gonna chase me out with pitchforks

KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!

Burn her!  

elirian_19 wrote...

I wonder if it's possible to create a Hawke who looks like Joker. That will be awesome.

As long as it's Heath Ledger's Joker. 

Sorry AquaRosafire, but this is for your own good. *starts gathering pitchforks and torches*

And definitely Heath Ledger's Joker. No will ever be as awesome a Joker as he was.

Jack was better:whistle:.

Edit:But all the cartoon ones are the best=].

Mark Hamill best Joker forever and always X3

Also Fenris, Fenris Fenris Fenris.
Those images a few pages back make me want to draw Viera Fenris XP

I think all Jokers are good but I will say Mark is the best:wizard:.

[Ryzaki]

LilyasAvalon wrote...
You saucy little minx. 

And agreed, let's hope I am wrong, I probably wouldn't be able to look at Fenris the same way again.

 Who me? Never! 

Me too. Urgh. I hate the "I want to cry on your shoulder" types. Makes me want to slap him upside the head and tell him to toughen up. 

And nothing irritates me more than the "I can fix you" female PCs. Go die in a damn fire. <_<

LukaCrosszeria wrote...

Not really, according to some Sten/Morrigan banter, the Qunari act is "painful". ><

I want Glow-in-the-Dark. :wub::wub::wub:

Nah Sten was just messing with Morrigan. He didn't want to wade through that swamp.  

So do I. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 février 2011 - 10:10 .

[happy-emu]

keekee53 wrote...

Yes yes...sorry  I am like 30 pages behind.  This thread is moving too fast for me to keep up. I will keep my comments to myself until I have read everything.  Thanks though.

It's fine. The thread DOES move almost too quickly. Don't feel the need to withhold your comments. I just pointed out the lateness so the whole thing didn't go into full on explosion again with people going back and forth. 

[tankgirly]

By trickybunnie, who's still on the BSN blackout.

[LukaCrosszeria]

Ryzaki wrote...

LukaCrosszeria wrote...

Not really, according to some Sten/Morrigan banter, the Qunari act is "painful". ><

I want Glow-in-the-Dark. :wub::wub::wub:

Nah Sten was just messing with Morrigan. He didn't want to wade through that swamp.  

So do I. 

Ew. Agreed.

[Tashash]

Hmph, kinda glad I've managed to miss the opinion wars today/night.

@Tank *sigh* Love Trickybunnie's work. Why oh why do even my stick figures suck hairy ogre balls?

Hmmm, played demo through on Mage again......Feel I need to do a 'LIght A Candle' fic for Bethany....Anyone interested?

[tankgirly]

Tashash wrote...

Hmph, kinda glad I've managed to miss the opinion wars today/night.

@Tank *sigh* Love Trickybunnie's work. Why oh why do even my stick figures suck hairy ogre balls?

Hmmm, played demo through on Mage again......Feel I need to do a 'LIght A Candle' fic for Bethany....Anyone interested?

I've been playing as a mage so far so yes please.

[Wynne]

Holy crap, 40 pages or so since I was last here! I just can't keep up. Ah, well. I'll just have to enjoy this thread whenever I can make it. Awesome that we're approaching 1000 pages before release date, though! 

MorningBird wrote...

AstraDrakkar wrote...

Well, usually on the first playthrough, i tend to play from my own perspective. Then i'll playthrough again using the characters perspective.

I like seeing how the decisions i would make would affect the outcome.

lol, I have a REALLY hard time playing as myself, to be honest.  I know that a lot of people like to play... what was the term being used?  Glorified versions of themselves?  And by that, I just mean, "I'll be playing myself, only as a badass swordsman/mage/etc... and I'll become hero OF THE WORLD!"

I have way too much fun creating characters to play as myself. xD

Oh, it's not necessarily so crass as that.

I think that playing a warrior, rogue, or mage version of yourself can be an expression of who you are--something you can't express in the real world that you can be in a fantasy world. Maybe strength of character, cunning, or creativity are traits that a person feels they have inside which they don't know quite how to show in their everyday life, or can't. For instance, if you don't have the money, time, etc. to go to college but you do feel like you are intelligent enough to excel mentally, or talented enough to be an artist but not willing to live off pennies for years, then playing a mage can be therapeutic. It allows you to have that feeling and resolve that wish without needing to do something that isn't a direction you truly want to go down, regarding your life or career.

Playing as a character like yourself can also be a method of self-reflection--paying attention to your decisions and doing what you think you would do in such a situation can help you see an example of who you are in practice. If you then analyze what you did in the game, then you learn something about yourself, including your flaws. Why did I choose the option to punch that guy through that window and down that chasm? It felt hilarious and satisfying, but was it truly a good idea? Should I learn to control my temper better? What about rescuing that kid? That's something I'd want to do in real life, but would I truly have the guts to risk my life for what seems like a lost cause? Should I? These are things you can learn about your values and traits, including your flaws.

It's also just plain easier (for some of us) to play as a character like yourself; more intuitive, more instinctive. You don't have to ask yourself "what would X do?" you only have to think about what you are going to do now. Possibly with a side of, "if I had been born into this family, how would I be different from how I am now?" Once you do that, the choices can feel a bit more visceral.

The investment is also deeper at times. Asking yourself whether you would kill a powerful, out-of-control child or risk him killing others to save his life (as in DAO) is a little harder than thinking, "okay, this is a good mage, a mage would go to the Circle for help." You really have to bite your lip if you're imagining that you're truly responsible for whatever happens.

It doesn't have to be so ugly as "I'm going to pretend I'm AWESOME as a form of narcissistic wishful thinking!" Not at all.

I enjoy playing a character based partially on myself the first time because of the view it gives me. To me, it makes the subsequent replays with characters drastically different from me--different gender, orientation, hair color, skin color, eye color, attitude, approach, class (warrior) and so on--somehow easier to decide on and enjoy.

As much as I'm convinced at this point that I'll choose Fenris, going by feeling and just experiencing the game as it is for the first playthrough is also more fun to me than if I made a character I thought fit Fenris first and then Anders, Isabela, and Merrill in succession. I like that I don't know for sure what I'll do in the game and I'll be basing the LI mainly off of the affection I develop for the characters; which I feel most connected to in the context of the story.

Your brain may work a completely different way--maybe you find it easier to connect with created characters. I wouldn't understand that totally, but I can respect it (particularly after my Jade Empire playthrough). This is just how my brain works. It's not that I don't like making characters (or playing them even when they're different from me, as with Geralt in The Witcher) it's just that my first playthrough usually has a thread of similarity to me, and I enjoy that because it helps me invest and feel as if the events in the game are a little more real.

Then again, I guess sometimes even a little narcissism could be considered good, clean fun.

[happy-emu]

Wynne wrote...

 Oh, it's not necessarily so crass as that.

I think that playing a warrior, rogue, or mage version of yourself can be an expression of who you are--something you can't express in the real world that you can be in a fantasy world. Maybe strength of character, cunning, or creativity are traits that a person feels they have inside which they don't know quite how to show in their everyday life, or can't. For instance, if you don't have the money, time, etc. to go to college but you do feel like you are intelligent enough to excel mentally, or talented enough to be an artist but not willing to live off pennies for years, then playing a mage can be therapeutic. It allows you to have that feeling and resolve that wish without needing to do something that isn't a direction you truly want to go down, regarding your life or career.

Playing as a character like yourself can also be a method of self-reflection--paying attention to your decisions and doing what you think you would do in such a situation can help you see an example of who you are in practice. If you then analyze what you did in the game, then you learn something about yourself, including your flaws. Why did I choose the option to punch that guy through that window and down that chasm? It felt hilarious and satisfying, but was it truly a good idea? Should I learn to control my temper better? What about rescuing that kid? That's something I'd want to do in real life, but would I truly have the guts to risk my life for what seems like a lost cause? Should I? These are things you can learn about your values and traits, including your flaws.

It's also just plain easier (for some of us) to play as a character like yourself; more intuitive, more instinctive. You don't have to ask yourself "what would X do?" you only have to think about what you are going to do now. Possibly with a side of, "if I had been born into this family, how would I be different from how I am now?" Once you do that, the choices can feel a bit more visceral.

The investment is also deeper at times. Asking yourself whether you would kill a powerful, out-of-control child or risk him killing others to save his life (as in DAO) is a little harder than thinking, "okay, this is a good mage, a mage would go to the Circle for help." You really have to bite your lip if you're imagining that you're truly responsible for whatever happens.

It doesn't have to be so ugly as "I'm going to pretend I'm AWESOME as a form of narcissistic wishful thinking!" Not at all.

I enjoy playing a character based partially on myself the first time because of the view it gives me. To me, it makes the subsequent replays with characters drastically different from me--different gender, orientation, hair color, skin color, eye color, attitude, approach, class (warrior) and so on--somehow easier to decide on and enjoy.

As much as I'm convinced at this point that I'll choose Fenris, going by feeling and just experiencing the game as it is for the first playthrough is also more fun to me than if I made a character I thought fit Fenris first and then Anders, Isabela, and Merrill in succession. I like that I don't know for sure what I'll do in the game and I'll be basing the LI mainly off of the affection I develop for the characters; which I feel most connected to in the context of the story.

Your brain may work a completely different way--maybe you find it easier to connect with created characters. I wouldn't understand that totally, but I can respect it (particularly after my Jade Empire playthrough). This is just how my brain works. It's not that I don't like making characters (or playing them even when they're different from me, as with Geralt in The Witcher) it's just that my first playthrough usually has a thread of similarity to me, and I enjoy that because it helps me invest and feel as if the events in the game are a little more real.

Then again, I guess sometimes even a little narcissism could be considered good, clean fun.

That is actually a very good point. Personally, I think every character someone makes includes a part of them, whether consciously or not (there has to be points of identification for writers, for instance, and those points in created characters are little pieces of us) just as artists portray some part of themselves with their work.

Consciously playing a character as "you in this situation" can be rewarding and fun, because you have flaws and mistakes. It's when a character turns into a perfect version of you or what you think you should be that it becomes  boring, in my opinion. The good thing about BW games is that even if you are a Goody McLovesalot, you will still have choices in which there is no perfect outcome and somewhere down the line you'll face consequences for your actions, even the ones you thought were good.

EDIT: The song was hilarious. XD

Modifié par happy-emu, 28 février 2011 - 11:58 .

[AstraDrakkar]

Wynne wrote...

Holy crap, 40 pages or so since I was last here! I just can't keep up. Ah, well. I'll just have to enjoy this thread whenever I can make it. Awesome that we're approaching 1000 pages before release date, though! 

MorningBird wrote...

AstraDrakkar wrote...

Well, usually on the first playthrough, i tend to play from my own perspective. Then i'll playthrough again using the characters perspective.

I like seeing how the decisions i would make would affect the outcome.

lol, I have a REALLY hard time playing as myself, to be honest.  I know that a lot of people like to play... what was the term being used?  Glorified versions of themselves?  And by that, I just mean, "I'll be playing myself, only as a badass swordsman/mage/etc... and I'll become hero OF THE WORLD!"

I have way too much fun creating characters to play as myself. xD

Oh, it's not necessarily so crass as that.

I think that playing a warrior, rogue, or mage version of yourself can be an expression of who you are--something you can't express in the real world that you can be in a fantasy world. Maybe strength of character, cunning, or creativity are traits that a person feels they have inside which they don't know quite how to show in their everyday life, or can't. For instance, if you don't have the money, time, etc. to go to college but you do feel like you are intelligent enough to excel mentally, or talented enough to be an artist but not willing to live off pennies for years, then playing a mage can be therapeutic. It allows you to have that feeling and resolve that wish without needing to do something that isn't a direction you truly want to go down, regarding your life or career.

Playing as a character like yourself can also be a method of self-reflection--paying attention to your decisions and doing what you think you would do in such a situation can help you see an example of who you are in practice. If you then analyze what you did in the game, then you learn something about yourself, including your flaws. Why did I choose the option to punch that guy through that window and down that chasm? It felt hilarious and satisfying, but was it truly a good idea? Should I learn to control my temper better? What about rescuing that kid? That's something I'd want to do in real life, but would I truly have the guts to risk my life for what seems like a lost cause? Should I? These are things you can learn about your values and traits, including your flaws.

It's also just plain easier (for some of us) to play as a character like yourself; more intuitive, more instinctive. You don't have to ask yourself "what would X do?" you only have to think about what you are going to do now. Possibly with a side of, "if I had been born into this family, how would I be different from how I am now?" Once you do that, the choices can feel a bit more visceral.

The investment is also deeper at times. Asking yourself whether you would kill a powerful, out-of-control child or risk him killing others to save his life (as in DAO) is a little harder than thinking, "okay, this is a good mage, a mage would go to the Circle for help." You really have to bite your lip if you're imagining that you're truly responsible for whatever happens.

It doesn't have to be so ugly as "I'm going to pretend I'm AWESOME as a form of narcissistic wishful thinking!" Not at all.

I enjoy playing a character based partially on myself the first time because of the view it gives me. To me, it makes the subsequent replays with characters drastically different from me--different gender, orientation, hair color, skin color, eye color, attitude, approach, class (warrior) and so on--somehow easier to decide on and enjoy.

As much as I'm convinced at this point that I'll choose Fenris, going by feeling and just experiencing the game as it is for the first playthrough is also more fun to me than if I made a character I thought fit Fenris first and then Anders, Isabela, and Merrill in succession. I like that I don't know for sure what I'll do in the game and I'll be basing the LI mainly off of the affection I develop for the characters; which I feel most connected to in the context of the story.

Your brain may work a completely different way--maybe you find it easier to connect with created characters. I wouldn't understand that totally, but I can respect it (particularly after my Jade Empire playthrough). This is just how my brain works. It's not that I don't like making characters (or playing them even when they're different from me, as with Geralt in The Witcher) it's just that my first playthrough usually has a thread of similarity to me, and I enjoy that because it helps me invest and feel as if the events in the game are a little more real.

Then again, I guess sometimes even a little narcissism could be considered good, clean fun.

This explains what I meant by my statement to a tee
/uploads_user/474000/473788/93996.jpg  Have a Fenris, Wynne  

Modifié par AstraDrakkar, 28 février 2011 - 12:10 .

[Tashash]

Ask and you shall recieve, dear Tanky.



Find A Star.

Hawke walked through the small wood just outside of Kirkwall, the light of the stars washing the world in silver. Bethany had loved stargazing. She found a clearing that allowed a clear view of the sky and laid down on the cool grass.

Silver lights spun overhead and Hawke traced their constellations with her fingers. The Wolf, the Dragon, the Elf’s Ear, the Mages Staff. She could find them all, could name them all. Bethany had taught her.

Bethany had believed that the souls of the dead lived amongst the stars. It had been their ritual after father had died; to scour the night time skies for the light he had become. And now Hawke was bound to look for the light that her sister had become.

Carver had not known; it had been their ‘just us girls’ secret, a way to mourn without risking the wrath of the Templar’s by visiting the Chantry. And now it was just her secret.

Hawke had been waiting far too long to do this for her sister. The hellish voyage to Kirkwall, being ‘found’ by Varric, The very strange meeting with Anders, getting mixed up with Isabela’s relic hunt, and now their quest the help an escaped Tervinter slave.

So many lives depending on her, so much to do; but she would do it.

It had surprised her that Wesley had been willing to commend Bethany’s soul, and while it gave her no comfort she knew that it had given some to her mother and Carver. Now it was Hawke’s turn to seek it.

Between the Mages Staff and the Dragon, just a little below the star they had chosen for father glowed a new, smaller star. She felt the wetness of tears on her cheeks and remembered.

The Ogre, stinking of Darkspawn corruption and smeared in gore and filth. Bethany standing so brave, the fire she called failing and her broken body on the ground...

“How could you let her charge off like that? My little girl...”

Her hand gripped the grass beneath it.

“Sissy...I’m sorry...I should have been quicker...”

She stared at the new star as it shone so very far away.

“If I could just go back...I just want you back Bethany.”

The lights blurred through her tears.

Bethany...

Bethany and Carver just after their birth, tiny hands clasped...

Bethany as a child asking her to help comb her hair, tears in her eyes at the snarled mess...

Bethany calling forth fire for the first time, her delight at her success...

Bethany lying on Hawke’s bed, doe eyed as she gushed about her first love...

Bethany calling ice and fire down on the Darkspawn...

“Hawke?”

She stiffened as she heard the interloper. She twisted her neck to look at Fenris, the elf looking at her lying on the grass and crying. He seemed confused and no wonder really.

“What are you doing? Why are you crying?” He asked.

She touched the wetness on her face without thinking.

“I...ah, was saying...goodbye to...to someone very important.” She explained.

Hawke sat up; her neck was getting a crick. She wiped her tears from her face.

‘No rest for the wicked.’

“How did you find me?” She asked, she hadn’t thought anyone knew where she was going.

“The gate guard saw you leave, and I am not a bad tracker.” He answered.

“Well then, what was it you needed?” She asked.

“Isabela thinks she may have some information on her ‘Relic’.”

‘Well, off we go again then.’

She went to stand and was strangely pleased when Fenris offered his hand; she grasped it gratefully as he helped her to her feet. They set off back to Kirkwall.

“Who were you saying goodbye to?” He asked softly, Hawke looked at him.

“If you do not wish to say...”

“No, it’s all right. It was my sister, Bethany. She and Carver were twins. We were both Apostates and couldn’t attend the Chantry, so we used to say the stars were the souls of the dead and look for them to say our farewells...Sorry, I am babbling.” She apologised, embarrassed.

“It’s alright, I wished to know, thank you for telling me.”

Bethany used to say the same thing.

[Emmy20211]

@Tashash That's so cool ^^

[Dunedien]

Tashash, I love that little story. Really well done. As for the whole aloof Mysterious Fenris, he could be that "tough love" pillar for Hawke, and then they could add in those awkward moments when he tries to be comforting, or says something really small that shows he has feelings for her, and let that develop into a relationship. Based on the clip from his meeting your character, he seems more the proactive, this is what I'm doing, help me or get out of my way sort then the mysterious sort. We'll just have to wait and see.

And as for playing, I don't usually make a conscious decission to be or not be me when playing, although I do make choices I wouldn't make in real life. I usually just go with the one I feel like at the time. That being said, I don't usually make choices I feel morally against in the game. I had to force myself to be "evil" 1 play-through just to see the differences. While I enjoyed seeing the slight differences in the game, I didn't really enjoy playing that character all that much.

[stephen1493]

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