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erhm... How do we suddenly know that everyone is bi? o__o

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Shandyr wrote...

erhm... How do we suddenly know that everyone is bi? o__o

There are pictures of Merrill and femhawke. x3

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Erani wrote...

ZombieGeisha wrote...

How about this they aren't all bi, but Hawke is just amazing and they just fall in love with him/her?

Think thats just a nice philosphy no?

:devil:

Hawke can turn anyone into a loverrrrrrr


Yey! Hawke is actually a desire demon. Posted Image


Waaaait! All LI's are bi? 

O_O

But I wanted to just be friends with Merrill and now I have to worry about a ninjamance from her too... :crying:!!!

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catabuca wrote...

Ineffable Igor wrote...

Oh
jeez, don't come after me with pitchforks or anything, Bi-Fans, but if
this is true, BioWare, I am disappoint.  Making all of the love
interests the same sexual orientation is just silly.  I would feel the
same way if they were all straight or all gay.  I mean, yeah, this way
everyone can get the love interest they want, but it just seems so fan
service-y.  Which just gives me an ucky feeling.  I hate being pandered to. [smilie]../../../../images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png[/smilie]


I understand your argument, but having romances in the first place is pretty fan-servicy, no? Why is all bi more so than 2 bi 2 straight? It just means more game options, more roleplaying, more replayability, more happy. It doesn't take choice away, it adds it.


I've never really seen romances as fan-servicey because it is actually something that's very likely to happen in an adventure type situation.  People who go through very difficult experiences together tend to form very strong emotional bonds.  Toss in some personality compatability and sexual attraction and bingo!  you've got yourself a romantic relationship.  This is something that could very easily happen (and has most certainly happened) in real life, so it's not anywhere outside the realm of possibility.  Having half your party be bisexual on the other hand...

If they did make that decsion based solely on giving the players more choice, that's what I'm talking about with fan-service to begin with.  You don't get that kind of choice in real life, you don't always get what you want.  I mean, one of these days I'd be thrilled if a game was released where there was a romance where a straight PC couldn't romance somone because they were gay.  I've always thought it was unfair that so many gay and bisexual players couldn't romance someone while the straight characters had and all access pass, so to speak.  However I don't see making everyone bisexual as leveling the playing field.  I don't WANT to be "happy", I want REALISM, which I know is a dirty word to some players, but to me has always been the ideal.

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Ramante wrote...

Shandyr wrote...

erhm... How do we suddenly know that everyone is bi? o__o

There are pictures of Merrill and femhawke. x3


And we know for sure that those pictures are no fake? :o

Modifié par Shandyr, 01 mars 2011 - 06:53 .


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WMRina wrote...

SPOILERS BELOW: DON'T WANT?  DON'T READ!


LukaCrosszeria wrote...

Basically the OP is like ankuu's post. But its the policy then to start at new thread at the 1000th page?

I wouldn't want to start a thread only for Priestley or others to shut it down ><

omg if both merrill and isabela are bi, then both anders and fenris will be too! :wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:

Forgive me this OT:
Zevran, omg....*SOB* What is with his eyes and his mouth?? I'm so going to need a toolset for that. ECK ACK UCK.


WAIT. WAIT. WAIT. WHUT.  Back the **** up.  LINK PLEASE??

Edit: Hello again my lovlies, I am back to gutter the place up but THIS is what I get for going to class! 

don't click me

@Shandyr, they look real (no weird clipping issues)

Modifié par Ramante, 01 mars 2011 - 06:54 .


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I personally don't see anything wrong with them all being bi, It would be nice to have variety. ^_^

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Ramante wrote...

WMRina wrote...

SPOILERS BELOW: DON'T WANT?  DON'T READ!


LukaCrosszeria wrote...

Basically the OP is like ankuu's post. But its the policy then to start at new thread at the 1000th page?

I wouldn't want to start a thread only for Priestley or others to shut it down ><

omg if both merrill and isabela are bi, then both anders and fenris will be too! :wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:

Forgive me this OT:
Zevran, omg....*SOB* What is with his eyes and his mouth?? I'm so going to need a toolset for that. ECK ACK UCK.


WAIT. WAIT. WAIT. WHUT.  Back the **** up.  LINK PLEASE??

Edit: Hello again my lovelies, I am back to gutter the place up but THIS is what I get for going to class! 

don't click me

@Shandyr, they look real (no weird clipping issues)


:blink: What the mothersmurfer.....? :blink::blink::blink:

Modifié par WMRina, 01 mars 2011 - 06:56 .


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Erani wrote...

@Selphie, you mean like Isabela and Merill both being bi, and only Anders or Fenris is bi, so 3 bi LIs in total?


Yeah. I mean if it makes sense to the story I wouldn't mind if all of them were bi, but if they threw it in for no reason other than appeasing everyone, I'd be a bit disappointed. It is perfectly possible that either anders or fenris are actually straight. 

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LukaCrosszeria

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Again: think in terms of time. 10 years and only 2 romance options? Then it makes sense to have 4.

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Ramante wrote...

WMRina wrote...

SPOILERS BELOW: DON'T WANT?  DON'T READ!


LukaCrosszeria wrote...

Basically the OP is like ankuu's post. But its the policy then to start at new thread at the 1000th page?

I wouldn't want to start a thread only for Priestley or others to shut it down ><

omg if both merrill and isabela are bi, then both anders and fenris will be too! :wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:

Forgive me this OT:
Zevran, omg....*SOB* What is with his eyes and his mouth?? I'm so going to need a toolset for that. ECK ACK UCK.


WAIT. WAIT. WAIT. WHUT.  Back the **** up.  LINK PLEASE??

Edit: Hello again my lovlies, I am back to gutter the place up but THIS is what I get for going to class! 

don't click me

@Shandyr, they look real (no weird clipping issues)


Zevran is in DA2 ? :o
He looks...different :blink:

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WMRina wrote...

Ramante wrote...

WMRina wrote...

SPOILERS BELOW: DON'T WANT?  DON'T READ!


LukaCrosszeria wrote...

Basically the OP is like ankuu's post. But its the policy then to start at new thread at the 1000th page?

I wouldn't want to start a thread only for Priestley or others to shut it down ><

omg if both merrill and isabela are bi, then both anders and fenris will be too! :wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:

Forgive me this OT:
Zevran, omg....*SOB* What is with his eyes and his mouth?? I'm so going to need a toolset for that. ECK ACK UCK.


WAIT. WAIT. WAIT. WHUT.  Back the **** up.  LINK PLEASE??

Edit: Hello again my lovelies, I am back to gutter the place up but THIS is what I get for going to class! 

don't click me

@Shandyr, they look real (no weird clipping issues)


:blink: What the mothersmurfer.....? :blink::blink::blink:



OHHHHHH MMMMMMMMMYYYYYY GGGGGGGOOOOODDDD


now this makes me undecisive about which import!!!

:pinched:

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Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

Erani wrote...

ZombieGeisha wrote...

How about this they aren't all bi, but Hawke is just amazing and they just fall in love with him/her?

Think thats just a nice philosphy no?

:devil:

Hawke can turn anyone into a loverrrrrrr


Yey! Hawke is actually a desire demon. Posted Image


Waaaait! All LI's are bi? 

O_O

But I wanted to just be friends with Merrill and now I have to worry about a ninjamance from her too... :crying:!!!



Rose dear, Merrill is so shy, do you really expect a ninjamance from her? lol

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Yeah, Zevran looks terrible.... and knowing that he's my GW's lover makes me feel... odd. :huh: He looks like he had starved himself.

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plumededragop wrote...

Yeah, Zevran looks terrible.... and knowing that he's my GW's lover makes me feel... odd. :huh: He looks like he had starved himself.



He might mention the warden too.


I have 2 import options, all the same decisions just different romance.

Zevran and Alistair.

Oh the choices :mellow:

But he and Fenris might be buddies mwhahaha

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Hmm... this is not really about Fenris.

*looks for a way to get back on topic*
Picture always works (or at least most of the time).

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plumededragop wrote...

Yeah, Zevran looks terrible.... and knowing that he's my GW's lover makes me feel... odd. :huh: He looks like he had starved himself.


He won't be in DA2 because he's with my Warden.

Why is Fenris so beautiful and Zevran so :pinched:

edit: typo

These merrill screen caps give me hope again for a bi Fenris. <3

Modifié par LukaCrosszeria, 01 mars 2011 - 07:02 .


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LukaCrosszeria wrote...

Again: think in terms of time. 10 years and only 2 romance options? Then it makes sense to have 4.


I don't necessarily disagree with this, I just think if that were the case there just should have been more romance options period.  Maybe some that were strictly homosexual. 

I just don't like the "they're all bi" concept.  It offends my sensibilities for resons I have already expressed.

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Erani wrote...

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

Erani wrote...

ZombieGeisha wrote...

How about this they aren't all bi, but Hawke is just amazing and they just fall in love with him/her? Think thats just a nice philosphy no? :devil: Hawke can turn anyone into a loverrrrrrr

Yey! Hawke is actually a desire demon. Posted Image


Waaaait! All LI's are bi?  O_O But I wanted to just be friends with Merrill and now I have to worry about a ninjamance from her too... :crying:!!!


Rose dear, Merrill is so shy, do you really expect a ninjamance from her? lol


It's the quiet ones you have to worry about. *Knows**Afraid*

Modifié par Madame Rose Crimsynn, 01 mars 2011 - 07:04 .


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Selphie12 wrote...

Erani wrote...

@Selphie, you mean like Isabela and Merill both being bi, and only Anders or Fenris is bi, so 3 bi LIs in total?


Yeah. I mean if it makes sense to the story I wouldn't mind if all of them were bi, but if they threw it in for no reason other than appeasing everyone, I'd be a bit disappointed. It is perfectly possible that either anders or fenris are actually straight. 


Yes, of course, whatever goes with the story. I always thought Anders must be straight because, well, Vengeance is a demon (not a desire demon) so would romance with a guy make sense to him? lol, but who knows.
I'd be totally happy with 4 bi Lis..but just 2 as in origins is fine too.

Modifié par Erani, 01 mars 2011 - 07:04 .


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I've said this before somewhere else, but I'm not a fan of all-bi LIs. I can't speak for gay/bi men, but f/f is fetishized enough as it is. I like having options, but not at the expense of being thought of as sexual entertainment for some immature people. If they made both of the women but only one of the men bisexual, that makes it even worse.

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Okay sorry, back on topic...but I had to see it for myself. So, how 'bout that Fenris? He'd better share whatever's in that bottle.

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LukaCrosszeria wrote...

plumededragop wrote...

Yeah, Zevran looks terrible.... and knowing that he's my GW's lover makes me feel... odd. :huh: He looks like he had starved himself.


He won't be in DA2 because he's with my Warden.

Why is Fenris so beautiful and Zevran is :pinched:


Oh good point, I cant remember the slide with Zevran at the end of awakening whether warden dissappears or not like with Alistair.


I want more Fenris screen shots :wizard:

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Ineffable Igor wrote...

LukaCrosszeria wrote...

Again: think in terms of time. 10 years and only 2 romance options? Then it makes sense to have 4.


I don't necessarily disagree with this, I just think if that were the case there just should have been more romance options period.  Maybe some that were strictly homosexual. 

I just don't like the "they're all bi" concept.  It offends my sensibilities for resons I have already expressed.


That's a very good point, I give you that. There should have been more romance options over a period of 10 years to make it realistic, but I think in terms of programming and such that such a thing isn't feasible yet. In all fairness, if there is exclusive straight, there should be exclusive gay too. I thought this time round there might be a character who's only gay for each gender. Of course if Fenris was gay, then the senior staff of BioWare would be in danger. :lol:

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Erani wrote...

Selphie12 wrote...

Erani wrote...

@Selphie, you mean like Isabela and Merill both being bi, and only Anders or Fenris is bi, so 3 bi LIs in total?


Yeah. I mean if it makes sense to the story I wouldn't mind if all of them were bi, but if they threw it in for no reason other than appeasing everyone, I'd be a bit disappointed. It is perfectly possible that either anders or fenris are actually straight. 


Yes, of course, whatever goes with the story. I always thought Anders must be straight because, well, Vengeance is a demon (not a desire demon) so would romance with a guy make sense to him? lol, but who knows.
I'd be totally happy with 4 bi Lis..but just 2 as in origins is fine too.

As long as Fenris is one of them, I agree. :whistle: But I prefer the All Bi option. Ah well, we'll find out soon.:)