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[CRISIS1717]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

CRISIS1717 wrote...

Yes I am getting this upset over it, it detracts from the 360 gameplay experience, it did at launch and it still does. They fixed this huge oversight on the PS3 but not on the 360.

PS3 owners don't get ME1.  At all.  They are missing out on a lot more than you are.

This about ME2 not ME1. If you had ME2 for both side by side don't tell me that the 360 doesn't seriously suffer in terms of gameplay because the choice comic is missing. 

[havoc373]

i think the OP keeps missing a tiny little tidbit of info that i've heard from sever sources now.

when discussing the extra content for mass effect ps3 they refer to the comic as DLC...

and if i am not mistaken (dont quote me on this) it is infact cerberus network DLC.

read this http://kotaku.com/57...e-playstation-3



now if this is cross platform cerberus network dlc i dont know but it would seem rather lame if it wasent.

[CRISIS1717]

darth_lopez wrote...

CRISIS1717 wrote...

Mr Mxyzptlk wrote...

I have not really been paying much attention to the PS3 version of the game but are you saying that the PS3 players will be able to choose between starting a new game based on either the renegade or paragon versions of the events in ME1? I guess that makes sense as the PS3 players cant really import a save from ME1 and thus otherwise wouldnt be able to experience the consequences of the other choices from ME1 (or lack of consequences if you will) so really if you think about it it is the PS3 players being nerfed.

What if you were new to Mass Effect and you want to start with Mass Effect 2? or you want to start a new game without importing or hassling with another runthrough to get the right mix of decisions in ME1?

Like I said it's freedom of choice or in this case the lack of it.

someone brought this up already ME 1 is cheap as balls now. i mean seriously it's like 50 dollars for both games. off of steam. typically you have to pay 50 for 1 this is sorta a double wammy for BW pay the initial Price of ME 2 get ME 1 also they should start packaging them that way for 360 and PC anyway.

Edit you can also aways buy ME 1 used from Game Stop in the US and probably canada, where most of us no doubt live, it's only liek 10 bucks for a used copy of ME 1if you can find one.

America=/=the world and we're talking about the 360 version not the PC version. 

[CRISIS1717]

havoc373 wrote...

i think the OP keeps missing a tiny little tidbit of info that i've heard from sever sources now.
when discussing the extra content for mass effect ps3 they refer to the comic as DLC...
and if i am not mistaken (dont quote me on this) it is infact cerberus network DLC.
read this http://kotaku.com/57...e-playstation-3

now if this is cross platform cerberus network dlc i dont know but it would seem rather lame if it wasent.

Yes it would be rather lame, but they have announced nothing so you are assuming it's in when there's no evidence for it. All sources at the moment mention PS3 specifically. 

[Si-Shen]

ReconTeam wrote...

ErichHartmann wrote...
I love 360 fanboys, always wanting more.

Excuse me but it is the PS3 fanboys who think they are entitled to bonuses.

Bonus' are determined by the dev and Sony in this case, they pay for extra, they get extra, however the comic is hardly "extra" or even close to what you or I can get.

WE get the full ME1 game, start to finish, in all its glory, we get to tweak ALL our choices as we play.  PS3 owners will NOT get that if they dont get the comic.   They will not get the enjoyment of ME1, they needed something to make up for the loss of something so major to the series.  If you want to start ME2 with a new save build, is it so hard to play ME1 again?  Personally I find it makes you feel more attached to your character.

[Thompson family]

CRISIS1717 wrote...


America=/=the world.

Yes.  That's why I put "(American)" in there.

[Mr.House]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

CRISIS1717 wrote...

Yes I am getting this upset over it, it detracts from the 360 gameplay experience, it did at launch and it still does. They fixed this huge oversight on the PS3 but not on the 360.

PS3 owners don't get ME1.  At all.  They are missing out on a lot more than you are.

This. PC and 360 owners get a 20+ game with a lot of choices where PS3 owners won't, they get a ten minute comic thing that does around 6 major choices and a little decision thing that's there for them because they can't get the first game. Not having the comic is not really an issue, however he only issue I can make out of this is if Conrad and other import bugs are fixed in ME2. That's the only issue i can see and that only matters if Bioware will even do the little choices.

[havoc373]

CRISIS1717 wrote...

havoc373 wrote...

i think the OP keeps missing a tiny little tidbit of info that i've heard from sever sources now.
when discussing the extra content for mass effect ps3 they refer to the comic as DLC...
and if i am not mistaken (dont quote me on this) it is infact cerberus network DLC.
read this http://kotaku.com/57...e-playstation-3

now if this is cross platform cerberus network dlc i dont know but it would seem rather lame if it wasent.

Yes it would be rather lame, but they have announced nothing so you are assuming it's in when there's no evidence for it. All sources at the moment mention PS3 specifically. 

they havent denied it either.

[Malanek]

So you question their integrity because they added something to a game which is a year old? Seriously??? This has nothing to do with integrity. I think this is one of the most insulting threads I have read on here.

[AdmiralCheez]

CRISIS1717 wrote...

This about ME2 not ME1. If you had ME2 for both side by side don't tell me that the 360 doesn't seriously suffer in terms of gameplay because the choice comic is missing.

Really, bro, the comic only includes six choices, anyway.  PS3 players are missing out on a helluva lot of carry-over content, and some stupid flash comic and free DLC seems like a suitable trade-in for Microsoft refusing to let Sony get a share of ME1's publishing rights.

It's not like they're cheating you out of half of a game.  You are seriously fussing too much about this.

[Crimmsonwind]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

You know, after actually reading a few published Mass Effect comics, I can't say missing out on one is a big deal. No impressed.

Seriously. You are getting this upset over a ten-minute flash animation?

For the record, this little interactive comic actually allows you to make the major choices for your ME2 character, if you're starting a new character from scratch. I think that's what the OP is trying to say: 360 players didn't get this option, which I thought would be an obvious shoe-in for inclusion.

[CRISIS1717]

THY KREEPER wrote...

You're right. I feel screwed over as an xbox me player, even though i have a ps3. I'm not going to go out and buy the whole game again. That would be swet if pc and 360 players got something exclusive in return (don't say me1). But, they probably won't. Sad. I still remain loyal to Bioware, but i feel like the sibling that isn't the favorite.

Thankyou Kreeper, I am in the same situation. I have both consoles but all we want is an equal gameplay experience for both consoles, not in terms graphics or little things like that but in the core gameplay which players will get their gaming experience and enjoyment from. 

[SOG TOUGH]

But will the PS3 version have those ME1 side-quest references? I doubt it. The PS3 version only seems to be getting the major plot choices available. All I can think of is Wrex, Love-Interest and Council.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Rumors of exclusive DLC, revamped graphics engine, yes I feel cheated.

[Jamin101]

Thompson family wrote...

OK

What was Bioware supposed to do? Leave in the very thing you objected to?

I guess you want Bioware to give the Xbox players the interactive comic.

Here's a better idea for new players who own an Xbox 360: Rent ME1 or buy a used disc for a few bucks, play that great game and import exactly the character you want.

They could have done that a year ago, too.

so you agree with the op or lack logic. if they want the experience ps3 users get they can just go out and spend more money...sounds fair

[CRISIS1717]

havoc373 wrote...

CRISIS1717 wrote...

havoc373 wrote...

i think the OP keeps missing a tiny little tidbit of info that i've heard from sever sources now.
when discussing the extra content for mass effect ps3 they refer to the comic as DLC...
and if i am not mistaken (dont quote me on this) it is infact cerberus network DLC.
read this http://kotaku.com/57...e-playstation-3

now if this is cross platform cerberus network dlc i dont know but it would seem rather lame if it wasent.

Yes it would be rather lame, but they have announced nothing so you are assuming it's in when there's no evidence for it. All sources at the moment mention PS3 specifically. 

they havent denied it either.

I'm not understanding what you mean, just because I give someone else a cake doesn't mean I will give you a cake, you are making unfounded assumptions.

[AdmiralCheez]

Crimmsonwind wrote...

For the record, this little interactive comic actually allows you to make the major choices for your ME2 character, if you're starting a new character from scratch. I think that's what the OP is trying to say: 360 players didn't get this option, which I thought would be an obvious shoe-in for inclusion.

True, but 360 players get ME1.  I just really can't get too excited about a fancy save editor that doesn't even include all of the decisions you could make.

Frankly, I prefer not being able to edit my saves: it solidifies my decisions, making them all the more important.

[ZJR7621]

Code_R wrote...

Bioware, and all developers for that matter have NO integrity since they are fueled by SALES. You want the ME1 actions to mount up and make a difference on ME3? Want them to really create a full game series that impacts all the way across each title? Too bad, they just want sales across multiple consoles and a bigger profit. Fan alienation is no big deal to anyone making software, since they just want it to sell more, that's just how it works. Why should they concentrate on making ME3 the greatest sequel to the original when they can just strip it down and get in all those PS sales? Integrity!! LOL.

You hit it right on the head!  In this day and age there is no such thing as integrity, only sales figures... if any game company was given the choice to put out an average or terrible game and make a killing or make an excellent game for the fans of the franchise and make a decent profit which do you think they would choose.  Not to say that ME2 was terrible or average though I loved it!

[Jamin101]

Thompson family wrote...

Nobody should be forced to buy or rent another game, even if it is exceptionally good, to get the character they want.

Mass Effect 1, just checked on eBay: Current bid -- $1.25. (American) plus $1 shipping.

in some american states thats a big chunk of an hourly wage and even if its not its still more money then ps3 users spend (ignoring all the free dlc that costs 30 bucks on xbox)

[ScotOfClanDonald]

Mass Effect was the game I got along with my 360. I consider getting that wonderful game at all, and Mass Effect 2 over a year beforehand, to be well worth the silly little animatic thinger they're tacking onto PS3 ME2.

[CRISIS1717]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

CRISIS1717 wrote...

This about ME2 not ME1. If you had ME2 for both side by side don't tell me that the 360 doesn't seriously suffer in terms of gameplay because the choice comic is missing.

Really, bro, the comic only includes six choices, anyway.  PS3 players are missing out on a helluva lot of carry-over content, and some stupid flash comic and free DLC seems like a suitable trade-in for Microsoft refusing to let Sony get a share of ME1's publishing rights.

It's not like they're cheating you out of half of a game.  You are seriously fussing too much about this.

A 360 player that plays Mass Effect 2 from start to finish on its own will get less enjoyment than a PS3 player because of the fixed origins, FACT. 

I don't want to argue irrelevant points saying "hey but we got this" or "hey but you can buy this", it's all about the Mass Effect 2 game and it's core gameplay. 

[Sparda Stonerule]

*yawns and cracks neck* What makes you believe in your heart and soul that we won't eventually get this? It is more than likely a timed exclusive.



I agree to a point that shoe horning new players into the Renegade path could leave a sour taste in their mouths since most characters react negatively to them. But it doesn't matter too much since most people will get over it.



What I whole heartedly refute is your claim to a lack of integrity. They are hyping this game and they know if they announced the 360 version will get the comic as well PS3 buyers may feel betrayed. Because as we all know PS3 owners love to lord their exclusive DLC over anyone. I mean it happened with Assassin's Creed Brotherhood even though the Copernicus stuff is frankly terrible. So unless you know for a fact PC and 360 users won't have access to it eventually, then please leave sensationalism to the media.

[Jamin101]

Si-Shen wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

ErichHartmann wrote...
I love 360 fanboys, always wanting more.

Excuse me but it is the PS3 fanboys who think they are entitled to bonuses.

Bonus' are determined by the dev and Sony in this case, they pay for extra, they get extra, however the comic is hardly "extra" or even close to what you or I can get.

WE get the full ME1 game, start to finish, in all its glory, we get to tweak ALL our choices as we play.  PS3 owners will NOT get that if they dont get the comic.   They will not get the enjoyment of ME1, they needed something to make up for the loss of something so major to the series.  If you want to start ME2 with a new save build, is it so hard to play ME1 again?  Personally I find it makes you feel more attached to your character.

having just played a renegade me1 file after two straight me2 playthroughs its like doing homework going back to me1, terrible terrible gameplay. its the atmosphere and story that made the game a hit. if i could choose rachni queen and all those choices without 30 hours of identical bunkers and mako i may just go for it

[AdmiralCheez]

ReconTeam wrote...

Rumors of exclusive DLC, revamped graphics engine, yes I feel cheated.

The only "exclusive" things they're getting are a fancy save editor as a stand-in for ME1 and maybe some bonus weapons.  Otherwise, the DLC they're getting is just the stuff that's slready been released (only free), and the graphics aren't that big of an issue.  Really, there were only a few lighting and texture tweaks.

Besides, you'd kind of expect them to make improvements to a version they're releasing a whole year after the original.