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[hooahguy]

Until my current playthrough I have cheated on Liara and Ash with Miranda (and once Tali).

But now Im going to see if I can manage not cheating on them with Miranda.

This will be hard.

[SmokePants]

I hope Ashley got married while Sheperd was dead. Just to **** with people.

[casedawgz]

SmokePants wrote...

I hope Ashley got married while Sheperd was dead. Just to **** with people.

Maybe she'll pull an Up in the Air and only tell Shepard that she's married when he's finally ready to commit.

[TheNexus]

Angry email.



Nothing more.

[casedawgz]

Well. They could have had more sex in the intervening period between Ilos and the Normandy getting blown up, but you're still right.

[Quietness]

Bennyjammin79 wrote...

Can someone please explain how it's cheating on somebody if you only slept with them once, died, came back 2 years later and get nothing but the cold shoulder, a scolding and have that same person call you a traitor upon seeing them again? I don't see it.

I think it was a little more than a one night stand, there was the whole courting bit up to the sex bit.

I however really think Ashley was a bit too foaming at the mouth, there are emotional outbursts and than there was that little display. Not saying you're completely justified in cheating but you can definitely make a serious case. Also love how i was "more than just her captain you were my friend" ( as a femshep ) and i just get completely *****ed out without an apology. Seriously she shows up in ME3 expecting me to suddenly forgive her and pretend it doesnt happen... yea dont think so.

edit: oh yea my male shep, so cheated on her for tali. Hmm someone who turned into a raving ***** or someone who stood by my side?

Modifié par Quietness, 17 décembre 2010 - 03:46 .

[hooahguy]

Well we can take into account that after the events of ME1 that Ash and Shep were dating. Just because we only saw their "first time" doesnt mean it was their only time.

[Badpie]

I have always disagreed with the term "cheating." After 2 years you can't call it that. But I don't think Shepard can just switch off emotions either. So it's been 2 years for Ash and it might as well have been a week for Shepard since they were deeply emotionally involved. And it's not about the sex. The sex happened as a natural progression to a constantly evolving relationship. It was pretty clear to me that by the time any consummation occurred, Shepard and whoever the ME1 love interest was clearly cared about each other a great deal. Then of course there was the month or so of what I can assume would have been normal relationship if not for their circumstances aboard the Normandy. And then Shepard died. And that all ended.



Ash is the kind of character that speaks without thinking, then regrets it later. It's just who she is. I fully understand Horizon (minus the sh*tty writing - whole other post) and her motivations. Was I angry? Sure. But I was supposed to be.



And I find it hard to believe that anyone can just be like "well she was a b*tch so I'm over her." Reality check - people aren't perfect. And sometimes we say the wrong things. You're gonna just bail on how you feel because someone didn't agree with you? Lame.

[Ashaman X]

All I can add to this discussion is that my Shep stayed loyal to Ash through 3 ME2 playthoughs. I looked at the potential ME2 love interests to see how they compared, and in a word they didn't. Everyone has their own likes, choices, ideas and options, so why all the uproar?

EDIT: Badpie's post above pretty much says everything I'm thinking better than I could say it.

Modifié par Ashaman X, 17 décembre 2010 - 04:17 .

[jlb524]

Badpie wrote...

I have always disagreed with the term "cheating." After 2 years you can't call it that. But I don't think Shepard can just switch off emotions either. So it's been 2 years for Ash and it might as well have been a week for Shepard since they were deeply emotionally involved. And it's not about the sex. The sex happened as a natural progression to a constantly evolving relationship. It was pretty clear to me that by the time any consummation occurred, Shepard and whoever the ME1 love interest was clearly cared about each other a great deal. Then of course there was the month or so of what I can assume would have been normal relationship if not for their circumstances aboard the Normandy. And then Shepard died. And that all ended.

Ash is the kind of character that speaks without thinking, then regrets it later. It's just who she is. I fully understand Horizon (minus the sh*tty writing - whole other post) and her motivations. Was I angry? Sure. But I was supposed to be.

And I find it hard to believe that anyone can just be like "well she was a b*tch so I'm over her." Reality check - people aren't perfect. And sometimes we say the wrong things. You're gonna just bail on how you feel because someone didn't agree with you? Lame.

I think it's b/c their Shepard didn't care much for Ash in the first place...their loss, really.

[GodWood]

Bennyjammin79 wrote...
Meh. If a girl I was seeing 2 years ago

Its not 2 years ago from Shepard's perspective.
For him Ilos only happened a month or so ago.

and slept with once

You really think they only had sex once?
You don't think Shepard and Ash would have some more fun after they just saved the entire galaxy?
I don't know about you but immediately after the little council speech I'd be going back to the Normandy for seconds.

[Badpie]

GodWood wrote...

Bennyjammin79 wrote...
Meh. If a girl I was seeing 2 years ago

Its not 2 years ago from Shepard's perspective.
For him Ilos only happened a month or so ago.

and slept with once

You really think they only had sex once?
You don't think Shepard and Ash would have some more fun after they just saved the entire galaxy?
I don't know about you but immediately after the little council speech I'd be going back to the Normandy for seconds.

Not only that, but do you really think the entire relationship was built upon simply wanting to jump each other?  Did you actually play through the romance?

[GodWood]

Is that directed at me?

[Badpie]

GodWood wrote...

Is that directed at me?

No no.  You brought up a good point and I was just expanding on it.  

[Collider]

IMO, you can't cheat on Ashley. All of the romances available for male Shepard begin after Horizon.

Unless you count Kelly, in which case I don't know because I've never tried.

[jlb524]

Bennyjammin79 wrote...

hooahguy wrote...

Well we can take into account that after the events of ME1 that Ash and Shep were dating. Just because we only saw their "first time" doesnt mean it was their only time.

Yeah, too bad it's stated in her email that she thinks about "our special night" . That's once. 

No, no, no, no, no.

They could have had many nights together, with just one being their 'special night'.  Probably their first night.  You can have many good nights with only one the one being the special one.

[Badpie]

Bennyjammin79 wrote...

hooahguy wrote...

Well we can take into account that after the events of ME1 that Ash and Shep were dating. Just because we only saw their "first time" doesnt mean it was their only time.

Yeah, too bad it's stated in her email that she thinks about "our special night" . That's once. 

I kind of gathered that they only had the chance to have intercourse once, maybe, but it kind of leaves it up to you doesn't it?   Sex, while great and all, does not an entire relationship make though.  I mean...they were working.   And not at all expecting Shepard to die.  They probably wanted to keep it off the ship.  Maybe they even had some shore leave planned.  But Shepard and Ashley are both committed to the job and protocol and all that.  So...  

As above - "our night" could just mean "first night."  I mean that was pretty special for a number of reasons probably.

Modifié par Badpie, 17 décembre 2010 - 04:42 .

[Collider]

The Ashley romance is legitimate. If your Shepard thought the relationship meant little, that's your Shepard. Ashley clearly thought it was more than that.

[Badpie]

Bennyjammin79 wrote...

Badpie wrote...
Not only that, but do you really think the entire relationship was built upon simply wanting to jump each other?  Did you actually play through the romance?

I never said it was built on just jumping each other once. Yeah, I played through the romance. There's talking. Talking leads to flirting. Flirting leads to almost a kiss. That ends up being a hump fest before Ilos. There it is in a nutshell.  

Ah I see.  You're a romantic.  

[casedawgz]

I hate the "well, it was only a month for Shepard" argument. It's a terrible argument. Ashley has had ample time to move on in the two years, and the "cheating" thing is really about her feelings, not Shepard's. If, in that month, Shepard has moved on, who's to prevent him from doing so? Is there some kind of moral police that swoops in and tells Shepard he's in no shape to have moved on so quickly, and that therefore doing so is cheating on the person who has had plenty of time to move on? People move on and bounce back at different speeds. Shepard's perspective on the two years doesn't negate the two years, and holds no bearing on the matter.