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[XzorshTheConqueror]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

XzorshTheConqueror wrote...

I do not agree with that, I feel that there's room for an independant organization that does good in the galaxy (from a paragon perspective) but recognizes that the Alliance and the Council are sometimes too shortsighted/unwilling to fight the true enemy.

Or at least my paragon Shep is privately jaded with the Council even though he publicly defends them to promote humanity's participation in the galatic community.

Cerberus would lose its funding if they "fell in line" with the Systems Alliance leadership. Cerberus' donors no doubt are fed up with humans catering to their new alien bosses, and they are more than happy to fund a group that hates that mentality. That mentality is the paragon mentality.

True, but I didn't say anything about falling in line with the Alliance leadership. A paragon Shephard taking over Cerberus will understand how elements of the Alliance want to nail him for even associating with Cerberus in the second game, and the Council is just shoving their heads in the sand. A paragon Shephard can also make the case that being allied with aliens doesn't have to be about submitting to them; my paragon Shephard made that case pretty clear to that rude interviewer  in both the first and second games.

And if a paragon Shephard fails to persuade Cerberus's more narrow-minded donors to see the big picture, then he can always look for new donors. His alliance that he gains in the Shadow Broker DLC may prove handy in that regards.

[SalsaDMA]

I really don't see Cerberus as having a majo impact in ME3. The happenings in Mass Effect: Retribution made it quite clear that his organization was temporarily crippled. He even had to try and pay aliens to clean up his own mess with Grayson since he didn't have the manpower himself to mount anything serious at that time. It's stated at one point that while he still has lots of money personally, he needs to rebuild his funding for the organization to be able to work again as an active organization.



While the organization wasn't killed, it was severely crippled in its capabilities compared to what it could do in ME2.



Ofc, given his reckless experiment with Grayson, I wouldn't even be surprised if he had an effect in the way of doing YET a reckless experiment, and this time not being able to clean up afterwards, thus literally being responsible for the appearance of the reapers. I guess that would be classified as having an impact, although not the one you would have hoped for an organization that claimed it was fighting for humanitys survival/dominance

[SouthernNUFC]

It would be nice to see something happen to the Illusive Man. I never really liked him TBH.

[Lotion Soronarr]

I hope we can make him the ruler of humanity...or the whole galaxy.
The man's got his priorities straight, unlike all other leaders in the universe.


Oh yes, I almsot forgot. A firey put to throw all of his opponents into.

Modifié par Lotion Soronnar, 17 décembre 2010 - 08:37 .

[Wolverfrog]

So much Illusive Man hate. He's probably the most interesting character in the series, and unlike most I don't just want to put a bullet between his forehead.



I think an interesting twist would be his base being destroyed by the Reapers and you rescuing him before taking him onto the Normandy, and depending on your choice at the end of Mass Effect 2 and dialogue chosen, he can either continue to be in command or "work for you," gathering information and formulating strategies.

[Atilius the Hun]

I think that he's going to do something cowardly such as coming up with a way for Sheppard to save humanity while letting all the other races fall to the Reapers, IMO.  Sheppard will then have to make a paragon or renegade decision based on the 'tempting' offer.

Modifié par Atilius the Hun, 17 décembre 2010 - 08:32 .

[SalsaDMA]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

I hope we can make him the ruler of humanity...or the whole galaxy.
The man's got his priorities straight, unlike all other leaders in the universe.


Oh yes, I almsot forgot. A firey put to throw all of his opponents into.

I honestly can't see it as having his priorities straigth when he knowingly submits a trained assassin with intimate knowledge of tactical info to the reapers, just to see what happens.

The guy is a borderline nutcase with his recklessness and does more damage than good in most of his endeavours that we know of.

Hell, after having read Mass Effect:Retribution, I was just sorry that lorewise there wasn't a way to totally annihilate the reaperbase in ME2 so there weren't anything left to salvage. The guy has psycopathic tendecies in his skewed weightings of possible consequences.

[omgodzilla]

I don't care what happens to him in the end as long as I can sleep with him at least once. My Shep needs someone classy.

[Strugz]

I hope Illusive Man doesn't get killed , he's awesome and the reason Shepard didn't die .

[The Smoking Man]

Strugz wrote...

I hope Illusive Man doesn't get killed , he's awesome and the reason Shepard didn't die .

Correction: Shepard died. Then TIM implanted a bunch of cybernetics into his corpse and turned him into a zombie cyborg, complete with a craving for brains.

[N7Infernox]

I'd love to see Illusive man as a boss in one form or another.

[Bad King]

He'll implant himself with some crazy cybernetics in an attempt to gain dominance over the reapers and over other species. Of course, the whole thing will go wrong and he'll become a part organic part synthetic monstrosity (a cybernetic Kraken) thus forcing Shepard to 'retire' him.

Or if you're renegade it would be cool to have an alternate ending where TIM becomes the saviour of Earth by sending an epic fleet of Cerberus ships (constructed using tech from the collector base) to help Shepard fight the Reapers.

Modifié par Bad King, 17 décembre 2010 - 10:26 .

[The Chosen Predator]

I love the fact that he's this guy in a suit - and he just says something and it literally just ends peoples lives at a whim - it's just like a quote i heard "if they wear a three piece suit they've killed millions" one diabolical badass but i rather have his evil ass around then the reapers

[Encarmine]

If anyones going to take over Cerberus, it would be Miranda, why would sheperd take over????



I hope no one takes over, would like to meet TIM and hes like.. meet my number two, and its Charly Sheen haha



Cerberus 4 Life

[Severyx]

Martin Sheen, actually. To be honest, I like Cerberus and the Illusive Man. I think it got a little over-personalized in ME2, but the prospect of Cerberus does great things to the depth of the universe.

[BattleRaptor]

Dean_the_Young

Your right..

Its not like he would you know.. set you up.. like send you to a distress becon he knows is fake... INTO A TRAP.

With the collectors... where he did infact ALMOST get you killed.



After all he claims your the only hope for humanitys suvival so doing something like that wouldnt make sense...... Thats right... As I said its his SOP.. and I never made any claims that he was sane or he didnt take stupid risks.



He could have decided that if you were working for the alliance you were a bigger threat and risk then if you were dead... and that if you ALMOST died.. and he saved you.. then he could control you.



Its not more outragous risky OR stupid then the stuff we know he has done.

[Paincake1234]

I will cooperate with The Illusive Man. If that fails, I prefer shephard dying over the Illusive Man.



Viva la Cerberus

[Inquisitor Recon]

N7Infernox wrote...
I'd love to see Illusive man as a boss in one form or another.

Shepard must face him in a dance off, yet we all know Shepard's terrible dancing skills.

However to be serious, I respect the Illusive Man and don't see any reason to dislike him. If I were to kill him it would be as a renegade, and it would be in order to take his job, nothing more. Plus you've got to appreciate him saving Shepard and giving him another chance to kick ass and take names.

[b.clash_]

lol my misguided children illusive man is a prothean . Just relax lean back and enjoy the ride

[rohanphilip]

b.clash wrote...

lol my misguided children illusive man is a prothean . Just relax lean back and enjoy the ride

Now that would be a real twist in the story, if that turned out to be true 

[BattleRaptor]

actually ive suspected he is a rouge human military AI.

but a Prothean would work great too.

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

BattleRaptor wrote...

Dean_the_Young
Your right..
Its not like he would you know.. set you up.. like send you to a distress becon he knows is fake... INTO A TRAP.
With the collectors... where he did infact ALMOST get you killed.

After all he claims your the only hope for humanitys suvival so doing something like that wouldnt make sense...... Thats right... As I said its his SOP.. and I never made any claims that he was sane or he didnt take stupid risks.

He could have decided that if you were working for the alliance you were a bigger threat and risk then if you were dead... and that if you ALMOST died.. and he saved you.. then he could control you.

Its not more outragous risky OR stupid then the stuff we know he has done.

The world doesn't revolve around Shepard. He is expendable along with anyone else. It is foolish to suggest to suggest he was trying to get Shepard killed. Did he put Shepard and risk? Absolutely, but that's Shepard's job. He's a soldier for god's sake.

[Yakko77]

My Sole Survivor Shep(s) want to feed him to a Thresher Maw.

[Lotion Soronarr]

SalsaDMA wrote...
I honestly can't see it as having his priorities straigth

1) Defeat Reaper,s save Galaxy
2) humanity
3) everything else


I'd say those priorities are right

BattleRaptor wrote...
Its not like he would you know.. set you up.. like send you to a distress becon he knows is fake... INTO A TRAP.
With the collectors... where he did infact ALMOST get you killed.

After
all he claims your the only hope for humanitys suvival so doing
something like that wouldnt make sense...... Thats right... As I said
its his SOP.. and I never made any claims that he was sane or he didnt
take stupid risks.

A calculated risk. Shepard is extreemly valuable, but  the Collectors had to be stopped.
The reapers had to be stopped. Besides, TIM wouldn't have done it if he didn't belive Shepard could foil the trap - he said so himself.