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[Haristo]

 Massive Spoiler Warning ! If you didn't passed through ME1 and ME2, don't read this thread. 



I don't know if you noticed but the Genophage is maybe one of most usefull tool we could use in Mass Effect 3 to gain Allies. This simple question can make everything change the ending, or at least one allie, maybe two ! Remember Virmire in Mass Effect 1 ? They said they found a cure for the Genophage. same as that bizarre lab in ME2 where you find Okeer and Grunt, they were trying to find a cure to the Genophage.

the Good Doctor Solus mention the Genophage a lot in his personnal Background. in his Subquest to gain his loyalty you find his old assistant/Pal/Idon'tRemember working on a viable cure to the Genophage ! isn't that Amazing !

The ME3 trailer at London give us a hint of the basic plot of the third and final Mass Effect : Get Allies, Save The Earth and get back for dinner... It really sounds like something I already did... I got allies from variable species and beated the **** out of  Dragon Led  Dark Side Horrible UrukHai ! in this plot we had to solve different problems for those species before they actually join us. And I really think the Genophage eradication or... Reload/Update/Expansion Pack ?!? will be a part of ME3, this is a Huge problem for Salarians AND Krogans. this is huge enough to get our attention, considering that it already did by letting us Nuking a place and beating the crap out of Mercenaries in a Garbage Planet.


The Genophage in Mass Effect 3, this is what I think of it. What about you ?

Modifié par Haristo, 17 décembre 2010 - 03:10 .

[Vaenier]

Why would you want to release the Krogan onto the unsuspecting galaxy? That is mean. The krogan need to learn how to control themselves like Wrex's group. When that is achieved, then they could be let off the leash.

[Googlesaurus]

I think the genophage will play an important part, somewhere. 

Modifié par Googlesaurus, 17 décembre 2010 - 03:16 .

[ISpeakTheTruth]

If you use the Genophage cure as a way to get all the Korgan to fall in line with Wrex and his policies than the Krogan would be ready to be cured. Since there will be a few years between ME2 and ME3 its possible that most of the Krogan homeworld might already be alighned under clan Ugnot.

[TheNexus]

Wrex will then proceed to have 3000 babies, all named Wrex (even the women).

[Quietness]

"They said they found a cure for the Genophage. same as that bizarre lab in ME2 where you find Okeer and Grunt, they were trying to find a cure to the Genophage."



Actually im very very very sure Okeer couldnt give a **** about curing the genophage. If anything he wanted to rebuild the greatness of the krogran race above the bodies of the weak...

[BlackwindTheCommander]

Personally, I agree with Mordin. Its too dangerous to cure it. But I believe so for different reasons.



Over crowding. At thier peak, Krogan bred like rabbits and ran out of room, so it caused aggression. Even if Clan Urdnot can control said aggression, we still have to find room for them all without infringing on other species territories and causing anti-krogan aggression to flare.



However, I would be fully understanding of altering the Genophage. Instead of keeping populations stable at pre-industrial levels like Mordin says, bump it up to say, pre-nuclear levels(if there is such a thing).



Less Krogan still-births, Krogans happy. Happier Krogan = less aggression. Less aggression means less need for Genophage type weapons.



At least thats how I see it.

[GodWood]

If your Shepard is an absolute moron, sure he/she might cure it.

[CARL_DF90]

I'm still sitting on the fence on that one.

[Zan51]

Geez, does anyone ever pay attention in the game? There IS no genophage cure! You blew up one possibility on Virmire in ME1, and what Mordin took from Tuchanka on his Loyalty mission that Maelon (is that his old apprentice's name?) was working on is years from a cure! It was no more than a beginning, according to Mordin.



So even if anyone worked on it any further, it would take a hell of a long time, again according to Mordin, who retooled the genophage to what it is now, remember that, before it would be able to be used. Likely it would be far too late to help against the Reapers anyway!

[282xvl]

If you attempted to cure it the STG would have you disappeared, IF the Spectres didn't get you first, or Cerberus, or some Asari Commandos... and rightfully so.

Curing the Genophage would create only two possible outcomes.

First is 2nd Krogan rebellion, which would be a horrible and bloody war.

Second is Krogan overpopulation on existing worlds, with Citadel dreadnoughts in orbit blockading poor starving Krogan to prevent them building tech/warships.

Either one seems pretty bad to me. Krogan make no bones about the fact that they would immediately start a war given the strength to do so.

Besides, the Salarians would just upgrade.

Modifié par 282xvl, 17 décembre 2010 - 05:33 .

[Slayer299]

I hope not. The Krogan aren't ready for things to go back to before the genophage, they're on the right track with Wrex leading them. But being on the right track and having a stable society that isn't built for constant warfare with anyone isn't the same thing.

[TexasToast712]

I hope so, I wish we could at least alter it to 50% successful birthrate instead of the 99% chance of failure. It would at least let them not die out.

I would rather just cure it out right. If the Krogan cause trouble again then just re-release the Genophage. Simple.

[282xvl]

The Krogan problem is exacerbated in my renegade saves because I had Ash put a bullet in Wrex's spine and 3 in his head.



You don't draw down on my FemRenShep and live; regardless of who you are or what your reasons

[Rip504]

Send the Krogan to the Terminus system. The council doesn't care what happens out there.

[Freddizm]

TexasToast712 wrote...

I hope so, I wish we could at least alter it to 50% successful birthrate instead of the 99% chance of failure. It would at least let them not die out.

I would rather just cure it out right. If the Krogan cause trouble again then just re-release the Genophage. Simple.

But the Krogan also live for quite a while, so maybe even 50% successful birthrate is too much... How about 98% chance of failure? That way their chances of reproduction doubles

[GodWood]

TexasToast712 wrote...
I hope so, I wish we could at least alter it to 50% successful birthrate instead of the 99% chance of failure. It would at least let them not die out.

Did you not listen to Mordin?
The salarians constantly manage krogan numbers to make sure they don't die out.

I would rather just cure it out right. If the Krogan cause trouble again then just re-release the Genophage. Simple.

So you'd want to cure them, they start another war killing thousands to millions of people and you just go "woops guess I'll genophage them again".

Use your bloody head.

[StowyMcStowstow]

Actually, I think it will be a Dragon Age one-or-the-other choices: The salarians appear to believe that the Genophage is working and is required for safety. However, you may have to choose between the Salarians (counter-intelligence, espionage, highly-trained, etc) or the Krogan, minus genophage (huge numbers, walking tanks, etc) but I feel like if they do that, it might not go over too well.

[StowyMcStowstow]

GodWood wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...
I hope so, I wish we could at least alter it to 50% successful birthrate instead of the 99% chance of failure. It would at least let them not die out.

Did you not listen to Mordin?
The salarians constantly manage krogan numbers to make sure they don't die out.

I would rather just cure it out right. If the Krogan cause trouble again then just re-release the Genophage. Simple.

So you'd want to cure them, they start another war killing thousands to millions of people and you just go "woops guess I'll genophage them again".

Use your bloody head.

It makes sense, in a galactic douchebag sort of way. If they started another war I'd remove their ambassador from the Citadel, and sever the majority of diplomatic ties to the Krogan until they STFU and stopped being neanderthal space a**hats. Seriously. Move your culture forward.

[282xvl]

I wouldn't give them the chance to pull a Geth and run of and build up their own fleet to threaten me later. Under any circumstances (genophage or no) I would instantly nuke them from orbit if they tried to build any space warship whatsoever.

[Epic777]

Before anyone goes anywhere with this topic remember there is NO GENOPHAGE CURE, the only thing we have going into me3 is possible partial cure, thats far from finished (years away). Going into me3 I cannot see the krogan being able to do much against the reapers force as I stated in this thread:
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/105/index/5343062

[jbblue05]

Even if your naive enough to cure the Krogan the Krogan still won't have the numbers needed to face the Reaper invasion.

[TexasToast712]

GodWood wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...
I hope so, I wish we could at least alter it to 50% successful birthrate instead of the 99% chance of failure. It would at least let them not die out.

Did you not listen to Mordin?
The salarians constantly manage krogan numbers to make sure they don't die out.

I would rather just cure it out right. If the Krogan cause trouble again then just re-release the Genophage. Simple.

So you'd want to cure them, they start another war killing thousands to millions of people and you just go "woops guess I'll genophage them again".

Use your bloody head.

The Krogan were wronged and they are dying out, besides, by the time the Krogans started trouble IF they started trouble then Shepard would be long gone and dead. It also makes sense that if the Krogan start to get out of hand threaten them with another Genophage, they would back down.

The Salarians arent making sure they arent dying out, They are making sure they arent recovering, whats makes you think they are trying to keep them alive? They RE-RELEASED the Genophage through Mordin.

Use YOUR bloody head.

Modifié par TexasToast712, 17 décembre 2010 - 10:00 .

[Loup Blanc]

It's obvious it will be one of the big decisions.

[NKKKK]

Modified Cured, best of both worlds.