In Exile wrote...
At least in my monitor, there is nothing wrong with DA2 UI as far as blocking the view is concerned. It is just an ugly as hell theme for a game like Dragon Age, given the very artistic and cared for one they gave us in Origins. Smells production cost reduction to me.
I don't like Dragon Age 2055 either, but the DA:O UI was ugly too.
Xewaka wrote...
Maybe I mischosen my words: I meant permanent, overlayed numeric scores over the bars.
Combat progress should be registered in a combat log rather than through in-screen floating numbers.
Modifié par slimgrin, 18 décembre 2010 - 05:25 .
Brockololly wrote...
If they made the portraits a bit larger (like Origins size) you could simply have the BG style health with the portrait itself simply filling up with red to indicate health /damage, with a single mana/stamina bar on one side vertically.
In Exile wrote...
Brockololly wrote...
If they made the portraits a bit larger (like Origins size) you could simply have the BG style health with the portrait itself simply filling up with red to indicate health /damage, with a single mana/stamina bar on one side vertically.
Or we could have numbers.
ninja'd by Xewaka.
Modifié par slimgrin, 18 décembre 2010 - 05:43 .
ziggehunderslash wrote...
In origins you can get the numbers by mousing over. Dunno if that's taking Mikes statement that if it works in origins, it'll work here, too far, but I'd say it's a reasonable assumption.
Modifié par Qset, 18 décembre 2010 - 05:55 .
Point.Qset wrote...
I play on a PC so yes I can do that. However the console folks don't have a mouse
ziggehunderslash wrote...
In origins you can get the numbers by mousing over. Dunno if that's taking Mikes statement that if it works in origins, it'll work here, too far, but I'd say it's a reasonable assumption.
I agree, I was more saying that they're available in general. That said, I have a thing about redundency, so wouldn't want the information provided in two ways, and I think a visual bar has values the numbers wouldn't. They work better as peripheral information, something the origins bars were bad at as well.In Exile wrote...
The tooltip is a pain. I want numbers at a glance, because the numbers are just much better information that an arbitrarily sized and half-empty bar.
ziggehunderslash wrote...
I agree, I was more saying that they're available in general. That said, I have a thing about redundency, so wouldn't want the information provided in two ways, and I think a visual bar has values the numbers wouldn't. They work better as peripheral information, something the origins bars were bad at as well.
I think numbers would also slightly annoy me if the game didn't provide them throughout, for example, I need to know how much heals heal for for the exact -heal value to be important. Of course, I think that's something we'd both argue strongly for either way, but not something I'm sure we'll be getting in full. Not that this stops it being a good indicator, more that it would bug me personally.
I do to, but I still wouldn't trade them. Maybe I've just learnt to think in terms of bars. Healing in WoW will do that to you. I have these old screenshots from blackwing lair that are literally 70% UI. Actually seeing the game didn't help what you were doing, I only really had to see enough to not bump into things.In Exile wrote...
I just think 123/450 is more information that bars.
Modifié par ziggehunderslash, 18 décembre 2010 - 06:22 .
ziggehunderslash wrote...
I do to, but I still wouldn't trade them. Maybe I've just learnt to think in terms of bars. Healing in WoW will do that to you. I have these old screenshots from blackwing lair that are literally 70% UI. Actually seeing the game didn't help what you were doing, I only really had to see enough to not bump into things.
AlanC9 wrote...
I don't like numbers for a primary display method because I actually have to focus on them. With highly visible bars I can get the information without deliberately looking at the interface.
Xewaka wrote...
I see the health and stamina/mana values with the bars covering much les screen. How does it not clutter less?
Nope, the highest number is always that length, the rest get smaller.AbounI wrote...
It appears the more points you have and the longer the bars are.So the lenght is a problem.Will the bars at max level of the character have all the screen lenght?Hope no!!
In Exile wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
I don't like numbers for a primary display method because I actually have to focus on them. With highly visible bars I can get the information without deliberately looking at the interface.
Do you pause & play? That's why numbers are more important, at least to me.
crimzontearz wrote...
Xewaka wrote...
I see the health and stamina/mana values with the bars covering much les screen. How does it not clutter less?
less cluttered,maybe....better? No.
the goal set by the devs was most likely to give a visual representation of how much health/stamina/mana a character has without the proportional operations implied by the wrap around bars. By returning them to "all the same lenght" vertical bars Dave has defeated the whole point. So no...that UI is not better at all, not for what it's supposed to do.
sorry for the delay, I'm at work.
In Exile wrote...
RageGT wrote...
Actually, the best way to check anyone's life in Origins is just hitting the "Highlight Usable Objects" key. It shows the name of all characters in sight and an elegant thin green bar over the head. (red for enemies) I'm sure every PC player is familiar with that. My question is, does the console ports have such key?
The console version is horror and pain. But no, they don't. Also, I hate that damn tab key.
P.S.: TES4-Oblivion is a much better game with teh BT Mod Customization Package!
In Exile wrote...
This is totally unrelated to anything, but could you give me a working link to the mod? I've been looking for it forever and most of the sites I find have broken installers.
Modifié par RageGT, 18 décembre 2010 - 09:01 .
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