ahh I love this PR claptrap...
IGN: PS3 version "definitive version" of ME2, according to Casey Hudson.
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#52
Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 08:51
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I was going to post some generic platform fanboy trollage, but I got ninja'd by a bunch of other platform fantrolls.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 08:53
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I can't fathom how people are loyal to a specific platform. I haven't cared about platform brands since Sega Genesis vs SNES. I was 8?
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 08:58
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ZombifiedJake wrote...
Starting to dislike Bioware ever so slightly.
You will still buy every single game they're gonna release in the future though
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 09:42
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greed89 wrote...
Rip504 wrote...
I own both systems and thus pre-ordered ME2 on PS3 today. Bought ME1&2 the day they came out. And will buy ME3 on both systems. I think this is a great move. It opens them to a new audience. I know many ppl who only own a PS3,(No 360 No PC) and next week will be able to play ME for the first time.
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Iam so happy that the best game on the system i owned , and spent tons of money for dlc on is getting realsed on another system played by people i dont praticulary like as a hole, only they get every thign i payed extra , for free, and it looks like the company would of willingly sold my soul to, dosent give a **** about me any more<_<
iam sorry but the "Be happy others get to play it" sentiment dosent wrok for me especaily since the Ps3 fanboys were nothign but ass holes about DMC4 and FF13,
First, I think you might have some issues that you need to get straightened out that only a professional can help you with. The company you would have willingly sold your soul to doesn't care about you anymore?? Seriously, I hope you're joking.
Secondly, this notion that you're being wronged somehow because PS3 owners will now get, for $60 I presume, a slightly better version of ME2 plus all dlc that you paid a grand total of what? $17 was it? And you got to play this day one a full year ahead of them? And you get to play ME1 in full?
Oh my God. The nerve that Bioware has.
Guess what? That's the way it works in this industry with hardware and software. I paid $650 for my PS3 on day one. Do you see me ****ing and moaning that people can by a PS3 now for less than half the price and get over 4 times the hard drive space? No, because I would have had to wait 4 years to get that chance.
Let it go and just enjoy the 360 version or whatever you have of ME1, ME2 and what will be a very kick ass ME3.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 09:48
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shinobi602 wrote...
greed89 wrote...
they get a comic book too<_<
I guess if you're into comics....
It's 15 minutes long and has 6 choices in it, while the other dozens of choices you make are default...I'd rather play through and experience the excellence of ME1 than a 15 minute comic of the game, personally.
And what if I've experienced the excellence of ME1 12 times? As much as I love ME1 the times I'm going to run through a full play through are dwindling fast.
Now I can create a new character with the main choices just as I want them and away I go. Well, I like that idea and that's why I'll be dipping into this twice.
I don't see the reason why anyone has to shoot another person down for wanting to get the PS3 version when they've already got the 360/PC versions.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 12:39
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In many cases its not about PlayStation, Xbox, PC or Mac, its about the system people actually own. Even at this point, buying another gaming system is pretty big investment for many people, an investment thats hard to justify.scyphozoa wrote...
I can't fathom how people are loyal to a specific platform. I haven't cared about platform brands since Sega Genesis vs SNES. I was 8?
Of course, you wont hear the PS3 owners complaining about the recent announcements. The ones complaining tend to be people who bought the game (in many cases at launch) and all the DLCs. Now the system - the one they do not own - is getting the improved version with all the DLCs included and exclusive content. Version they can not have.
Now, all that would not be bad in most cases - as you pointed out, most of us here are not kids. The problem may be that BioWare pretends to run community here, which makes things bit more personal for some, usually the most enthusiastic ones (remember all the unhappiness about those US-only community events and lack of localizations / DLCs?). As such some things may be perceived differently.
The misleading comments about exclusivity may not be just another corporate doublespeak - it may be lying to the community.
The "definitive version" talks may not be just another corporate PR messages - it may be trolling their fans, who supported them and their franchises.
Of course, there are some platform fans (such as me), but I dont think thats the case with most people, who are complaining.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 07:19
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Oilking72 wrote...
I don't see the reason why anyone has to shoot another person down for wanting to get the PS3 version when they've already got the 360/PC versions.
I'm not shooting anyone down, I only said that I don't get it. If you've played through ME1 12 times, how many more decisions do you have left to make? You can only make 6 decisions in the comic, the main decisions.
Maybe I'm just more cautious with my money...
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 08:17
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THe PS3 version is the definitive version because it was the last version to come out. That simple. It was the same with the ME1 PC version, which allowed you to download a free peice of dlc and fixed a ton of the issues with ME1 on Xbox.
So, assuming that ME3 is released simultaneously on all 3 platforms, then there will likely be no definitive version. It's a matter of time, not platform.
So, assuming that ME3 is released simultaneously on all 3 platforms, then there will likely be no definitive version. It's a matter of time, not platform.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 08:35
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Of course it's the definite version. Out of the box it has every DLC ever released that and it's only on one disc. Wait untill we get our GOTY version before throwing a fit. This is just a PR spin to get PS3 sales since the 360/pc sales are long over.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 09:01
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I did not know it had all the DLC but i did know it had the ME3 engine an thats what i was pissed about. Now i'm more pissed hopefully all version of ME3 get the same dlc with no big big difference for one port an not the other.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 09:04
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This is a reminder to please play nice, people. Be excellent to each other.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 09:32
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And party on dudes!
Sorry, couldn't resist
Sorry, couldn't resist
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 10:27
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Okay, I'll try to explain this.
Why would Hudson say this? Because creating the port and the alternative to ME1(since it's MS exclusive) costs money. A lot of money. They need the PS3 version to sell. So they will say WHATEVER they think will make people buy the product. And, considering it's a year since it came out, ME2 may very well be improved upon.
Bottom line, EA and Bioware are both MULTI-PLATFORM. Releasing everything they can, on as many platforms as they can, gives them the largest overall market, which allows for a larger possible income.
They will release EVERYTHING that they legally(and financially) can, on as many platforms as they can, to make as much money from as many fans as they possibly can, REGARDLESS of what Casey Hudson or Fred Flintstone, or whoever else does an interview, says.
Why would Hudson say this? Because creating the port and the alternative to ME1(since it's MS exclusive) costs money. A lot of money. They need the PS3 version to sell. So they will say WHATEVER they think will make people buy the product. And, considering it's a year since it came out, ME2 may very well be improved upon.
Bottom line, EA and Bioware are both MULTI-PLATFORM. Releasing everything they can, on as many platforms as they can, gives them the largest overall market, which allows for a larger possible income.
They will release EVERYTHING that they legally(and financially) can, on as many platforms as they can, to make as much money from as many fans as they possibly can, REGARDLESS of what Casey Hudson or Fred Flintstone, or whoever else does an interview, says.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 10:37
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Even if it is, who cares? A great game is a great game regardless of platform. I wish people would get that through their heads already and settle down on the platform nonsense. I have both so I am not a fanboy for either. It's really a waste of time and energy debating it anyways. Jeez. 
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 10:42
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I will say I'm slightly jealous of PS3 owners now. 
Personally I consider ME2 for the PS3 as a sort of preview of what (at the very least) ME3 will look like on that system (and hopefully the 360; PC will always be the best version I feel due to its potentially higher power for the most part). The tweaks to gameplay: again, jealous. But you know what? It means that they listened to us fans who complained about such-and-such and fixed it, albeit for another section of fans.
What worries me about the whole 'definitive version of ME2' is actually a lot less simple. If the PS3 version of ME2 is definitive, it implies to me that it is also complete, which in turn suggests that LotSB was the only bridging dlc. If that is correct, then we won't be seeing any more bridging dlc.
I hope I'm wrong on that, or missed an announcement about the next dlc, but that is what worries me. (That would remind me of the whole two years of Dragon Age: Origins dlc which didn't happen.)
Personally I consider ME2 for the PS3 as a sort of preview of what (at the very least) ME3 will look like on that system (and hopefully the 360; PC will always be the best version I feel due to its potentially higher power for the most part). The tweaks to gameplay: again, jealous. But you know what? It means that they listened to us fans who complained about such-and-such and fixed it, albeit for another section of fans.
What worries me about the whole 'definitive version of ME2' is actually a lot less simple. If the PS3 version of ME2 is definitive, it implies to me that it is also complete, which in turn suggests that LotSB was the only bridging dlc. If that is correct, then we won't be seeing any more bridging dlc.
I hope I'm wrong on that, or missed an announcement about the next dlc, but that is what worries me. (That would remind me of the whole two years of Dragon Age: Origins dlc which didn't happen.)
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 11:21
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Oh my goodness. You mean they tweaked stuff during a year while preparing for Mass Effect 3? Here's an idea: Suck it up. PS3 owners haven't gotten to play any Mass Effect for four years. So they get a slightly graphically better (Benefit of the doubt. Basically every preview says it looks essentially the same) version, and a comic instead of the first game. I think that's kind of an even trade.
As for definitive? For fans of the dictionary, since it includes all the until now released DLC, technically it is the most complete version of ME2. Before people spaz about that, take four minutes to read the dev posts, and you will see repeatedly that they say LotSB was not the only bridging DLC planned and will not be the only bridging DLC published, otherwise it probably shouldn't be called bridging since it only sets up one thing.
So calm down, children. The world is not going to end because another console gets a version that is bragged about so people will, you know, buy it. (The whole "This is exactly the same as it was when it was released for the 360/PC with absolutely no changes, updates, or tweeks. Pay us $60" marketing strategy was deemed unlikely to be successful). If anything, I'd think 360/PC people would be happy the PS3 was being used a guinea pig for testing the ME3 engine, since it means the development won't be delayed because of porting.
As for definitive? For fans of the dictionary, since it includes all the until now released DLC, technically it is the most complete version of ME2. Before people spaz about that, take four minutes to read the dev posts, and you will see repeatedly that they say LotSB was not the only bridging DLC planned and will not be the only bridging DLC published, otherwise it probably shouldn't be called bridging since it only sets up one thing.
So calm down, children. The world is not going to end because another console gets a version that is bragged about so people will, you know, buy it. (The whole "This is exactly the same as it was when it was released for the 360/PC with absolutely no changes, updates, or tweeks. Pay us $60" marketing strategy was deemed unlikely to be successful). If anything, I'd think 360/PC people would be happy the PS3 was being used a guinea pig for testing the ME3 engine, since it means the development won't be delayed because of porting.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 11:24
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[quote]KainrycKarr wrote...
Okay, I'll try to explain this.
Why would Hudson say this? Because creating the port and the alternative to ME1(since it's MS exclusive) costs money. A lot of money. They need the PS3 version to sell. So they will say WHATEVER they think will make people buy the product. And, considering it's a year since it came out, ME2 may very well be improved upon.
Bottom line, EA and Bioware are both MULTI-PLATFORM. Releasing everything they can, on as many platforms as they can, gives them the largest overall market, which allows for a larger possible income.
They will release EVERYTHING that they legally(and financially) can, on as many platforms as they can, to make as much money from as many fans as they possibly can, REGARDLESS of what Casey Hudson or Fred Flintstone, or whoever else does an interview, says.[/quot
So you are saying we may very well see mass effect on the Wii? Because, if so, I will never play mass effect again.
Okay, I'll try to explain this.
Why would Hudson say this? Because creating the port and the alternative to ME1(since it's MS exclusive) costs money. A lot of money. They need the PS3 version to sell. So they will say WHATEVER they think will make people buy the product. And, considering it's a year since it came out, ME2 may very well be improved upon.
Bottom line, EA and Bioware are both MULTI-PLATFORM. Releasing everything they can, on as many platforms as they can, gives them the largest overall market, which allows for a larger possible income.
They will release EVERYTHING that they legally(and financially) can, on as many platforms as they can, to make as much money from as many fans as they possibly can, REGARDLESS of what Casey Hudson or Fred Flintstone, or whoever else does an interview, says.[/quot
So you are saying we may very well see mass effect on the Wii? Because, if so, I will never play mass effect again.
Modifié par THY KREEPER, 17 décembre 2010 - 11:24 .
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 11:26
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Dev post links please. If only to ease my fears.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 11:26
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I'm just disappointed because I had to pay over $90 for the game and DLC, but they get all that for $60. Kind of a low blow...
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 11:34
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@OBakaSama: http://social.biowar...ex/4733492&lf=8
Thar ye go.
And yeah. The person who likes money in me is kind of sad I had to pay for all the DLC, but, I mean, if you put it into perspective, that's kind of the price you pay for buying things at their release. It's sort of the same argument as why a game that was released at $60 now only costs $20 or $30. In a way, you pay for the ability to play it right away. You also have to take into account that many PS3 owners also have PCs and 360s, so you lose some customer base. In order to make money, they do have provide incentives to buy. For those of us with the game, that was being able to play it 30 minutes after it released.
Thar ye go.
And yeah. The person who likes money in me is kind of sad I had to pay for all the DLC, but, I mean, if you put it into perspective, that's kind of the price you pay for buying things at their release. It's sort of the same argument as why a game that was released at $60 now only costs $20 or $30. In a way, you pay for the ability to play it right away. You also have to take into account that many PS3 owners also have PCs and 360s, so you lose some customer base. In order to make money, they do have provide incentives to buy. For those of us with the game, that was being able to play it 30 minutes after it released.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 11:38
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Thanks, JosephShrike. *Goes to read post*
EDIT: Ah...OK. Now going to the back of the room to wait quietly.
EDIT: Ah...OK. Now going to the back of the room to wait quietly.
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 11:43
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Honestly, if I hadn't been keeping tabs on it (read: hoping for new DLC to help me avoid actual responsibilities in life) I might have been in the same boat. Unlike a lot of people though, I don't think Bioware is trying to systematically destroy all of its fans.
Also, as I type that, the thought that I've been reading too many posts in the DA2 forum, and as a result think everyone is skewed toward Bioware distrust for no reason, is something that I can't get out of my brain...
Also, as I type that, the thought that I've been reading too many posts in the DA2 forum, and as a result think everyone is skewed toward Bioware distrust for no reason, is something that I can't get out of my brain...
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Posté 17 décembre 2010 - 11:44
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JosephShrike wrote...
@OBakaSama: http://social.biowar...ex/4733492&lf=8
Thar ye go.
And yeah. The person who likes money in me is kind of sad I had to pay for all the DLC, but, I mean, if you put it into perspective, that's kind of the price you pay for buying things at their release. It's sort of the same argument as why a game that was released at $60 now only costs $20 or $30. In a way, you pay for the ability to play it right away. You also have to take into account that many PS3 owners also have PCs and 360s, so you lose some customer base. In order to make money, they do have provide incentives to buy. For those of us with the game, that was being able to play it 30 minutes after it released.
I would agree with this IF ME2 was originally announced to come to the PS3 alongside the 360/PC from the first place, and was delayed for a year. The free DLC would make up for that "wait".
Since it wasn't, PS3 owners never "waited" for anything. It was never announced or proclaimed to come to the system. They didn't wait, they just got an unexpected bonus with free stuff that we had to pay for.
