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[Bhryaen]

I just went to wipe out everything and start again in preparation for modding- maybe not necessary, but I did. I went to look for my characters to save them, but the only ones showing in the Characters folder were the default list. (I'd made plenty.) I also had plenty of Saved games- just got to Baldur City- but the Save folder was empty. And I'd made a couple saves of multiplayer games so I could play two characters- MPSave folder empty also... well, other than the Mission Pack which I deleted so I didn't have to see it on the list anymore. I was able to play saves after deleting it, so I don't think it was essential. I also had DSotSC installed and uninstalled it, but the folders were blank before doing that.

So I made a copy of the entire BG folder anyway, then uninstalled. I thought maybe the files were in the folder but invisible. Then after the new install I simply removed the Characters, Save, and MPSave folders and replaced them with the copied ones... and it seems everything I've done has cracked like a statue into dust.

Is there something I'm overlooking or is it all gone? I know I've seen files in the corresponding NWN folders, and there must be a way to access the character file in order to manually export to BG2- that and to make a multi game into a single player. I've done all that before years ago. Oh, what have i done???

[Humanoid_Taifun]

Hm. The only thing I can imagine is that you installed everything under a recent version of windows into the Program Files folder... (I don't know whether that would actually result in your save games being saved somewhere else though)

Did you check a) whether your save files were accessable from ingame when you couldn't find them in their folders or whether any new save games (that you could make right now) would disappear just as the old ones?

[Bhryaen]

All the files were working fine in-game, even though I couldn't see them in the respective folders, so I didn't panic. I thought maybe it was normal. It's not really that they disappeared though because I've never seen them since I first installed BG again a week or two ago. And, yes, I did save into the Programs folder (which is what I've always done by default) and I have Vista, so maybe that might have something to do with it? I've now reinstalled BG1 & TotSC again (and I'm sick to torture from seeing that Planescape advert for the 20th time now) and also installed BG2, ToB, and the patches, but in the C\\ drive directly, and I've made clone copies of both folders. Unfortunately I managed to name the install folder for BG1.



Man... there were several characters in there with hrs of stat rerolls... not to mention the save games...

[Humanoid_Taifun]

Vista is a bit... possessive when it comes to it's Programs folder. You should never install any games there.

[Bhryaen]

And then there's this issue which I was hoping to eventually clear up (from another thread, but more related to this issue):

Son of Imoen wrote...

2. Keep the game thus created pure. Instead, copy the entire folder to a different one (for instance, C:\\\\\\\\Games\\\\\\\\Black Isle\\\\\\\\Trilogy or C:\\\\\\\\Games\\\\\\\\Black Isle\\\\\\\\BG modded or any other other name you fancy. Open baldur.ini using a text editor such as Notepad and change the line saying HD0:=C:\\\\\\\\Games\\\\\\\\Black Isle\\\\\\\\BGII - SoA\\\\\\\\ (or whatever is the name of the original folder) and change that into the name of the new folder. Than use that new folder for modding the game (note: not necessary for EasyTutu, it does creating a new game folder by itself, just change the folder name it will install to into something outside of Program Files.

Note: use the bgmain.exe file inside the folder to start the game thus created inside that folder, not the autorun.exe, as the last will still point to the unmodded game.

If you do it this way and anything goes wrong, you still have a clean install and not have to use the 6 CD's again!

(Note: I'm not sure why copy-pasting adds extra "\\\\")

I have no file with the .ini on it. I have one called Baldur which does open up in a text editor and contains "[Program Options]", et al, but it doesn't have any section designating the file address that I can edit. It also has two sections with the heading "[Program Options]", so I'm not sure where to put the "DebugMode=1" into. (I put it under both...) When I had XP I think there was an .ini file. Maybe I should downgrade back to XP!

Modifié par Bhryaen, 17 décembre 2010 - 06:02 .

[Humanoid_Taifun]

The reason the file doesn't end on .ini is because under folder options, you have to change a setting from "Hide all known file extensions" to "Show all file extensions". ".ini" is a known file extension, and will thus only be shown if you tell windows that you want to see it.

Vista has many of these safe guards. Others are the UAC ("User Account Control", the most hated Windows feature since the BSoD) or the hiding of all system relevant files.

[Bhryaen]

And to top it off I decided that 10 reinstalls isn't as good as 11. Given that I couldn't find the address text to change it, I simply re-installed. I've always accepted the default folder that the game selects, but now I see that it's best simply to make the folders you want to install to first before trying to install. (I'd made a folder called Games next to the Programs folder, but it installed the BG1 files directly into it rather than creating a BG1 folder into that folder...)

And that would be fine, but when I uninstalled BG2 in order now to install it in a folder called BG2 in the now-correctly-populated Games folder, the uninstaller made it to 100% and froze. When I task-mangr-forced out of it 10 min later, I checked the control panel uninstaller, and BG2 was no longer in the list, so it worked, right? But when I put the game disc back in to reinstall, it came up with the option to Play (i.e., as if it weren't uninstalled)!  I went back to the control panel uninstaller, and there it was again! So I uninstalled it again- and this time it seemed to work- so I tried the game disc once more and it showed "Install" as the option (ahh, progress), but when I clicked to install, it simply ended as if the disc can't find its install application.

Then I had to come to work, so I'll be on round 2 when I get back home... And in a week or two from now I should be back up and running!

[Humanoid_Taifun]

After uninstalling both games, try using the Execute command, combined with "regedit". Search for "Baldur" and delete everything that looks like program entries (meaning, everything that you don't know you want to keep)

Edit: Mandatory warning: Playing around with the regedit can really mess up your computer.

Modifié par Humanoid_Taifun, 17 décembre 2010 - 10:50 .

[Bhryaen]

No, no, thank you a heck of a lot- both here and elsewhere. I throttled the "folder options" out of Vista so now I can see the .ini files for what they are and everything else. Also as soon as I got back home I rebooted the PC and it installed BG2 OK. There's nothing to recover anymore: I deleted the old folders (then the next ones) and now I'm back to scratch again. At least it was only a couple weeks. Most of the night I was downloading mods for consideration. I sooo much want to simply get into a game again, but I'm going to "tough out" selecting mods now and then try to enter the "no reload" thread instead, not creating chars until I'm done meddling... Despite my reluctance, now I'm like a kid in a candy store with all the mods, so I'm going to use Tutu to minimize bugs and, as I gain more confidence with modding successes, maybe later I'll try BGT and go the whole way so I can see it unfold in one shot...