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[Giggles_Manically]

In Skyrim you are not evil...just incredibly goal driven and self interested

[The Hierophant]

 Has anyone in here created a character that's inspired from a fantasy series? Kalam Mekhar from Steven Erikson's Malazan Book of The Fallen(shameless advertisement) has inspired me to do such, as his badassery leaves me giddy like a Korean schoolboy who's about to receive an autograph from PSY.

Here's an example as empty praises won't do.

Spoiler

Twenty heartbeats. Twenty-five. Thirty. Hood's breath! Kalam stared down at the broken acorn. S***. s*** s*** s***. Forty. Cursing under his breath he set off.
   That's the problem with the shaved knuckle in the hole. Sometimes it doesn't work. So, I'm on my own. Well so be it, I've been getting sick of this life anyway. Murder was overrated, he decided. It achieved nothing, nothing of real value. There wasn't an assassin out there who didn't deserve to have his or her head cut off and stuck on a spike. Skill, talent, oppurtunity - none of them justified the taking of a life.
    How many of us - yes you - how many of you hate what you are? It's not worth it, you know. Hood take all those blistering egos, let's flash our pathetic light one last time, then surrender to the darkness. I'm done with this. I'm done. He reached the end of the bridge and paused once more. Another backward glance. Well, it ain't burning, except here in my mind. Closing the circle, right? Hedge, Trotts, Whiskeyjack . . .
   
The dark pitted and broken face of the Mouse Quarter beckoned. A decayed grin, destitution and degradation, the misery that haunted so much life. It was Kalam Mekhar decided the right place. The assassin burst into motion, a diagonal sprint, hard and as low to the ground as he could manage, up to the leaning facade of a remnant of some estate wall, surging upward, one foot jamming in a cluttered murder hole - dislodging a bird's nest - up, forearm wrapping around the top edge, broken shards of cemented crockery cutting through the sleeve, puncturing skin - then over, one foot gaining purchase on the ragged row, launching himself forward, through the air, onto an angled roof that exploded with guano dust as he struck it, scrambing along the incline, two long strides taking him to the peak, then down the other side and onto the wild maze, the crakcled, disjointed back of the vast Mouse - 
   
Claws, crouched and waiting, lunged in from all sides. Big, the biggest assassins Kalam had seen yet, each wielding long-knives in both hands. Fast, like vipers, lashing out. Kalam did not slow down - he needed to push right through them, he needed to keep going - he caught weapons against his own, felt blade edges gouge tracks
along his armour, links parting, and one point, thrust hard, sank deep into his left thigh, twisting, cutting in an upward motion - snarling, he writhed in the midst of the flashing weapons, wrapped an arm about the man's face and head, then as he pushed through with all his strength, he pulled that head in a twisting wrench, hearing the vertebrae pop. Kalam half dragging the the flopping corpse by it's wobbly head into his wake, where he dropped it.
    A long-knife from the right slashed into the side of his head, slicing down to sever his ear. He counter-thrusted and felt his weapon skid along chain.
    Hood take them! Someone used me to make more of me - Continuing down, to the edge, Kalam then launched himself through the air, over the gap of an alley. He landed, pitching and rolling, on the flat floor of a sagging tenement,  centuries old, the surface beneath him layered with the gravel of broken pottery. Multiple impacts followed, trembling along the rooftop, as his hunters came after him. Two, five, seven - Kalam regained his feet and turned, at bay, as nine assassins, spread into a half-circle and rushed him.
    Nine Kalams against one.
    Hardly.
    He surged forward, straight ahead, to the centre of that half-circle. The man before him raised his weapons in alarm, caught by surprise. He managed to parry twice with one long-knife, once with the other as he desperately back-pedalled, before Kalam's succession of attacks broke through. A blade sinking into the the man's chest, impaling his heart,  the second one stabbing beneath the jaw-line, then twisting upward and pushing hard into the brain.
   
    Using both jammed weapons, Kalam yanked the man around, into the path of two more Claws, then he tore free his long-knives and charged into one flank of attackers with blinding speed. A blade-edge sliced into his left calf from one of the pursuers - not deep enough to slow him down - as he feinted low at the Claw closest to him, then thrust high with his other weapon - into the eye socket of the man a step beyond the first assassin. The long-knife jammed. Releasing his grip, Kalam dipped a shoulder and flung himself into the midsection of the next attacker. The impact jolted through his bones - this Hood cursed bastard's huge - yet he sank even lower, his freed arm sliding up between the man's legs, up behind. Blades tore down along his back, links popping like ticks on hot stones, and he felt the Claw seeking to shift the angle of those weapons, to push them inward - as, legs bunching beneath him, Kalam then heaved the hunter upward, off his feet - up, Kalam loosing a roar that tore the lining of his throat, using his weapon-hand to grasp the front of the man's shirt - up and over.
   
    Legs kicking the Claws head pitched forward, colliding with the chest of a pursuing assassin. Both went down. Kalam leapt after them, pounding an elbow into the forehead of the second Claw - collapsing  it like a melon husk while he sank his remaining long-knife into the back of the first man's neck.
    A blade jammed into his right thigh, the point, bursting through the other side. Kalam twisted fast to pull the weapon from the attacker's hand, drew both legs up as he rolled onto his back, then kicked hard into the claw's belly, sending the figure flying. Another long-knife thrust at his face - he flung up a forearm, and blocked the weapon, brought his hand round and grasped the Claw's wrist, pulled him closer and gutted him with his own long knife, the intestines spilling out to land in Kalam's lap.

    Scrambling upright, he pulled out the weapon impaling his thigh - in time to parry a slash with it, then backing away his slashed and punctured legs almost failing beneath him - he fell into a sustained defense. Three hunters faced him, with the one he had kicked now regaining his feet , slowly struggling to draw breath. Too much blood- loss; Kalam felt himself weakening. If anymore Hands arrived . . .
    He leapt back, almost to the edge of the roof, and threw both long-knives, a move unexpected, particularly given the top-heavy imbalance of the weapons - but Kalam had practised short-range throwing with them, year after year.  One buried itself deep in the chest of the Claw to his right; the other struck the breastbone of the Claw on the left with a solid thud, and remained in place, quivering. Even as he threw the weapons, Kalam launched himself, barehanded, at the man in the middle.

    Caught one forearm in both hands, pushed it back then across - the hunter attempted an upthrust from low with his other long-knife, but Kalam kneed it aside. A savage wrench dislocated the arm in his hands, then pushed it back up, grinding the dislodged bones into the ruptured socket - the man shrieked. Releasing the arm, he brought both hands up behind the Claw's head, then leaving his own feet, he drove that head downward face-first into the roof.
    A crunch, a loud crack and the entire rooftop sagged - explosions of old rotted timber beams, crumbling mortar and plaster.
    Swearing, Kalam rolled over the man - whose face was buried in the roof, amidst bubbling blood - and saw through an ever widening fissure a darkened room below. He slid himself forward -
Time to leave.

    Ten paces away, Pearl stood and watched. Shaken, disbelieving. On the slanting rooftop all around him lay bodies. The finest assassins of the Malazan Empire. He cut through them all. Just . . . cut through them. And, in his heart there was terror - a sensation new to him, filling him with trembling weakness.(lulz @ the frightened punka** pretty boy)

Yeah i kinda OD'd with the length of the example, but what say you? 

Modifié par The Hierophant, 09 novembre 2012 - 07:39 .

[Yrkoon]

Endurium wrote...

My favorite way to play these games is to rise a hero then fall into depravity. It's rather fun.

^My playstyle is exactly the opposite. I start off in the gutter. I do anything, kill anything, ally with anyone to survive and get ahead. Then later on, when I become more powerful, I tend to grow a conscience, and become much more selective with regards to the quests I accept, the entities I deal with, and the foes I  choose to unleash my power on.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 09 novembre 2012 - 07:45 .

[xiiFezz]

Well happy daiz I can actually give you some advise for dual wielding. Alright First off get the perk to up speed of your dual attacks. Max it. Also stick with swords if your going to dual wield. They are faster so that speed makes up for the lowest damage. Max the 20% more damage perk, really helps if your gonna use swords. Then finally sneak/light armor will be your best friends. I take Dragaur Deathlords down in a few hits by holding down right and left trigger so this kins of character is really really strong. And I also have a bosmer, easily my favorite race in game

[naughty99]

termokanden wrote...

Oh yeah I get that. I meant the actual green bar of stamina. I thought maybe you were using it for stealth rolls and such. I seem to have enough at 200.

Carrying capacity... well, no, can't have enough of that

Unless I'm playing a mage, I always put all my points into Stamina, never into Health. 

It's great to have a pool of about 400-500 Stamina as an archer to use Eagle Eyes with Steady Hands - you can wipe out a crowd of advancing enemies before they even get close to you. Or as a melee character, you need it so you can run up to spell casters or archers and powerbash to interrupt them. 

[Gotholhorakh]

xiiFezz wrote...

Well happy daiz I can actually give you some advise for dual wielding. Alright First off get the perk to up speed of your dual attacks. Max it. Also stick with swords if your going to dual wield. They are faster so that speed makes up for the lowest damage. Max the 20% more damage perk, really helps if your gonna use swords. Then finally sneak/light armor will be your best friends. I take Dragaur Deathlords down in a few hits by holding down right and left trigger so this kins of character is really really strong. And I also have a bosmer, easily my favorite race in game

Yeah, I did the same - and have mostly had to stop using dual wield because everything in the game dies so quickly when hit with a couple of well made flame/consume swords.

[happy_daiz]

^ Seriously? Swords are that great for dual wielding? I wasn't even imagining taking out Draugr Deathlords like that, but I'm looking forward to it now. Thanks for the tips, guys; I'll continue on this path, and will apply the perks accordingly.

I was actually going to use heavy armor on this girl, but I guess light makes sense, and it's early enough to switch (my Bosmer is only level 5 or 6). I just wish I had more light armor choices. And I was just beginning to not hate the iron armor. Ahh well, Thieves Guild, here I come.

Sadly, that's a lot of the reason I usually join the TG: for the armor. Well...and for all the boys I don't get to marry or flirt with.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 09 novembre 2012 - 08:57 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Which is why I cant wait for Dragonborn.

Since each new armor gets a light and heavy version!
STALHRIM ARMOR HERE I COME!

[happy_daiz]

^ Hooray! I'm always down for more armor choices. I should add, I don't mind the Dawnguard  armor. Guildmaster is my favorite light armor, though.

I wish the DB armor was better looking. It reminds me of some kind of weird spandex pajamas. And it looks really creepy on Cicero.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 09 novembre 2012 - 09:02 .

[HoonDing]

Stahlrim was a sacred material for the Skaal, and it required to first win their trust to receive a special tool, then visit a lot of barrows and pick enough material to have it made into armour and weapons.

It better not be lying around all over the place in this DLC.

[Captain Crash]

Interesting ideas. You seem full of them right now.

For me the mask serves a couple of purposes. Most obvious is hiding his true identity, which I feel is prime for a good twist. The Dragonborn can be of any race... will this stretch even further? The Princes influences in this DLC show the possibilities can be stretched and still be believable. Reappearing now asks several questions of his origin and nature.

Secondly wearing the mask mocks the Priests and the Dragons. Im not sure if he was ever a Priest to begin with but wearing it is a symbol taunting the overlords.

[Splinter Cell 108]

The other thing about the mask is that it seems to have tentacles in some parts, and from what we have heard, tentacles are indicative of Hermaeus Mora. I wonder what his role in all this mess will be especially since he seems to pretty much be a mystery himself. One other thing I'm wondering, is what role will the Dunmer have in all this since they seem to be living in Solstheim as well. 

Modifié par Splinter Cell 108, 09 novembre 2012 - 09:49 .

[Dutchess]

happy_daiz wrote...

^ Seriously? Swords are that great for dual wielding? I wasn't even imagining taking out Draugr Deathlords like that, but I'm looking forward to it now. Thanks for the tips, guys; I'll continue on this path, and will apply the perks accordingly.

I was actually going to use heavy armor on this girl, but I guess light makes sense, and it's early enough to switch (my Bosmer is only level 5 or 6). I just wish I had more light armor choices. And I was just beginning to not hate the iron armor. Ahh well, Thieves Guild, here I come.

Sadly, that's a lot of the reason I usually join the TG: for the armor. Well...and for all the boys I don't get to marry or flirt with.

Especially on a low level it's useful to put your fastest weapon in your left hand, since apparently that determines attack speed. So until you get the dual wield perks, you could put a dagger in your left hand and swing a sword or axe with your right hand. At least that's what I saw being recommended when I looked up a good strategy for dual wielding. 

[The Hierophant]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

The other thing about the mask is that it seems to have tentacles in some parts, and from what we have heard, tentacles are indicative of Hermaeus Mora. I wonder what his role in all this mess will be especially since he seems to pretty much be a mystery himself.

The mask looks Cthulu like and i wouldn't be surprised if Hermaeus's appearance looks similar to the mainstream portrayal Cthulu. Heck repeating what's been speculated before Hermaeus might be Miraak's benefactor, or Miraak is a manifestation of him, or Miraak is his son who joined a cult where s*** got real when Alduin wanted him drink the Kool aid, and he cried to daddy for help who then hid him away for thousands of years until the coast was clear.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 09 novembre 2012 - 10:56 .

[Addai]

The only dual wielding I've liked has been my Dunmer nightblade who dual-wields bound swords. It's a pain having to summon twice every time, but he doesn't have to use melee too often and OMG is he badass when he does.

@greengoron:  I've pretty much come to accept that it is a different priest than we've heard of before, named Miraak.  What makes you think he is the Greedy Man?  Because from all I've seen, that's Lorkhan.  I highly doubt that we're going to battle Lorkhan.  Although it would be interesting if we fought an avatar of his, since we spent so much of Dawnguard giving praise to Auri-El to get access to the shrines (my Stormcloak hated that, lol).

Does anyone wonder if the snow elves could again be involved? The mask reminds me of a Falmer helmet, and they were supposedly driven from Solstheim by Ysgramor.  I wonder sometimes if the war between Ysgramor and the Snow Elves couldn't have been over the dragon cult.  The Snow Prince is also supposed to be interred on Solstheim- did you see his cairn in Bloodmoon?

Modifié par Addai67, 09 novembre 2012 - 10:48 .

[Addai]

Seven Fights of the Aldudagga has the Greedy Man trying to hide pieces of the world from Alduin, and getting stuck in a void space this created when he got caught and was running away. lol So I don't think the Greedy Man could be an ordinary mortal. In the account, Alduin says that he "always" tries to stop him from eating the world. I interpreted that as Lorkhan himself, who was then trapped under Red Mountain.

Modifié par Addai67, 09 novembre 2012 - 11:38 .

[Giggles_Manically]

I REALLY hope on the 11th we get some more news or something.

The waiting is killing me.

[The Heretic of Time]

greengoron89 wrote...

Please point where anyone here is playing a "goody-two-shoes" character.

I never said that anyone HERE in this thread is playing a goody-two-shoes character. But I''ve seen plenty of people like that here on BSN in the Mass Effect threads. People who complain they can't play Renegade because it's too evil or they can't get it over their heart to betray poor old Mordin etc. etc. etc.

[HoonDing]

greengoron89 wrote...

Are you sure that information is canon? That contradicts what is written in Aevar Stone-Singer.

They're not canon.

[The Heretic of Time]

Yrkoon wrote...

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely *love* playing evil. . . .  in games where playing evil actually means something.    You know,  where  Evil is a tad more imaginative/creative than just:   "ME SMASH KITTENS AND EAT OLD LADY HEARTS   MUHAHAHAHA."

There are some games that do evil really well,   And then there are some that don't. 

The good games  have different shades of black. Skyrim dropped the ball on this one in a few areas. 

Well to be honest Skyrim drops to balls in so many areas when it comes to roleplaying, not just for "evil" characters. The ability to really roleplay in Skyrim is really limited. In the end it all burns down to whether you serve the people of Skyrim, or simply serve yourself only.

Still, I think Skyrim does a better job at allowing the player to play a morally ambigous character than games like Fable (now that's a game where evil is cliché and boring as f*ck!).

But honestly, I don't take myself or my evil character very seriously and neither should you. I just play "evil" for kicks 'n giggles.

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Plenty of Skyrim fans refuse to play the Dark Brotherhood or do the Daedra quests.

None of the regulars on this thread.  I can assure you of that.  The general consensus here is that the DB questline is one of the best in this game.

Well I'm glad to hear that! DB is awesome! 

[Addai]

greengoron89 wrote...

Are you sure that information is canon? That contradicts what is written in Aevar Stone-Singer.

TES doesn't have "canon" as far as I'm concerned.  The lore is bigger than the games, and MK is as foundational as it gets.  Having contradictory stories is part of the fun.  I mean, the Nords used to think Orkey was a trickster and evil, but now he's their respected god of the dead.  Alduin was the god of time, now they say He Ent Akatosh.

The Skaal thinking that Lorkhan is evil is interesting because normally you think of Nords as being aligned Padhomaic/ Lorkhan, but the Skaal are obviously more Anuic.  Just as most of the elves are Anuic but the Dunmer are closer to Padhomaic.  Probably one reason I like both those races the best- Team Lorkhan all the way.

Not having played Bloodmoon, it will be interesting for my Stormcloak to meet the Skaal.  I think she probably won't know what to do with them, never having met Nords like that before.  OTOH my huntress is more Skaal in her outlook.

Aaargh can we get this DLC already.  I want this one a lot more than any of the others.  

Modifié par Addai67, 10 novembre 2012 - 12:24 .

[HoonDing]

There'll likely be a quest to become the new Chieftain of Thirsk.