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[Giggles_Manically]

Addai67 wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

HoonDing wrote...

This is pretty good cosplay: http://www.kotaku.co...ted-just-right/

 

But this  can't be possible.  I was told that you  simply can't cosplay  NPCs unless they have static, unremovable, outfits.

I'm so confused. 

Iconic is the word you're looking for. 

That would be a bioburn?

[Giggles_Manically]

Is it wrong that I enjoy summoning Odahviing and watching him pwn stuff?


You go dude!
Make papa proud!

I have a save right outside Northwatch Keep to watch that show.
Ah good times.

[happy_daiz]

^ I had a great time watching Durnehviir doing the same thing.

I need to get moving on the MQ in this playthrough - I haven't even gone to the Thalmor Embassy yet, and my Bosmer is up to level 40. The only questline I've completed is the Dark Brotherhood, thus far, but I've been keeping busy.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 30 novembre 2012 - 02:44 .

[happy_daiz]

^ That's awesome.  I believe on my Nord character, I waited to do Bleak Falls Barrow until around level 25. It was rather quiet, with the lack of dragon attacks.

Hey, do any of you guys know if you can use Dead Thrall on a Draugr Deathlord? After putting one in my Trophy Room, I've been kinda wanting to have one following me around. Ooh! If I could have a full-time Wrathman, that would be the icing on the cake. I suppose I could just try it, but figured one of you guys would probably know.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 30 novembre 2012 - 03:06 .

[Yrkoon]

Lathrim wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...

^ I had a great time watching Durnehviir doing the same thing.

I need to get moving on the MQ in this playthrough - I haven't even gone to the Thalmor Embassy yet, and my Bosmer is up to level 40. The only questline I've completed is the Dark Brotherhood, thus far, but I've been keeping busy.

One of my characters is almost level 41 and she didn't even go to High Hrothgar yet! 

Those types of playthroughs can be really fun.

I once made it to level 60 without doing  any part of the main quest  after bleak falls barrow.  It's all about pure freedom.  I created my own main quest  (to become a millionare thief)  Pursued it to completion, then retired.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 30 novembre 2012 - 03:08 .

[Naughty Bear]

Has anyone attempted to kill everyone in Skyrim?

I've got an Orc who uses a war hammer and I just kill who ever is unfortunate to bump into me.

[Leinadi]

Annoyingly enough, there are a number of characters with plot-armor who are apparently deemed too important for you to be able to kill.

[happy_daiz]

^ ...and kids. Lots and lots of immortal kids. And re-spawning Forsworn.

Speaking of the dead, I need to go back to the Soul Cairn Running low on Grand soul gems. I have no less than two million petty and lesser gems, atm. And I need to get Necromage.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 30 novembre 2012 - 05:56 .

[Addai]

Yrkoon wrote...

Are you surprized? it makes  total sense, from a marketing perspective, to have a meaningless, acheivement-goal for a cartoonish feature.   The two  concepts  (hi-ho-silver dragon riding  -and-  Look at how  cool I am, I got an achievement) appeal to the exact same type of gamer:   The type who plays games in order to "accomplish" trophies to wow his buddies on Steam and Xbox live.  Of course that type of gamer  is going to want  to do "kapow!" stuff that makes him feel like a god, and then brag about it  online.     Stuff like  riding  firebreathing  dragons  and  other such overpowered flashiness  that comes with that.

PS:  Didn't me and you have a long, drawn out debate  a while back about High Fantasy vs. Political  in RPGs?  And didn't   you say you much prefer the latter?  Well, there you go.  The opposite of your preference:    You get to ride around  on dragons.  It doesn't get any more High fantasy than that.    Enjoy.

Oh, quit b*tching.  It's an Elder Scrolls game and my dragonborn should get to ride dragons.  If you don't like it don't buy it etc. etc.

A late edit to be less snarky- when I'm talking about story, yes I prefer low fantasy.  "A wizard did it" is a cheap story mechanic, we all know that.  Having to deal with human frailties is much more fraught and interesting.  But talking about games in general, I love the moments in games when I feel something viscerally that takes me out of my cubicle existence.  This is probably why one of the first mods I added to Skyrim was a jump mod, because I love to leap down off a high precipice and take my enemy's head off before he knows what hit him. Through mods I have the Slowfall spell from Morrowind, which lets me leap from even greater heights, and one called Icarus' Flight that sends you soaring out over the entire Skyrim map- it also killed me, so I don't use that one, but for giggles it was amazing.  So if dragon riding can be that kind of thing (which will depend on its implementation, and I don't expect that to be perfect), I'm all for it.

Modifié par Addai67, 30 novembre 2012 - 05:41 .

[Giggles_Manically]

I have to agree with you....part of the fun in Skyrim is doing kick ass awesome stuff you cant do in real life.

What is so bad about riding dragons when:
A) You already did it once in the MQ and
You can rip reality a new one simply by speaking?

I mean you have a shout that yanks a dragon out of the sky already.

[Barbarossa2010]

Naughty Bear wrote...

Has anyone attempted to kill everyone in Skyrim?

I've got an Orc who uses a war hammer and I just kill who ever is unfortunate to bump into me.

Cha...right. Good luck with that.  When you figure out how to kill that b!+ch Maven, you be sure to let us all know.

[Giggles_Manically]

Few things are agreed upon by Skyrim fans.
Maven and the Thalmor sucking works for both.

[Addai]

Dragon riding is also in the lore, as we already established a few pages back. Though I don't recall any mention that Ysgramor and Co. did that. The Atmorans did have dragons with them when they conquered Skyrim, but riding them was a thing for imperial battlemages I guess, after Tiber tamed some of the dragons.

The above is also why, despite the terrible PC controls and though I can't believe I'm saying this, the Mako was the best thing about Mass Effect. Plunging off mountainsides and firing cannons at stuff is good fun.

[happy_daiz]

But...I don't have a problem with Maven.

The Thalmor, though. Yeah, I hate them.

I find it interesting that if you're playing an elf of any kind, you get blamed for everything any Mer has done, or is perceived to have done.
- Jarl Korir's son in Winterhold blames you for the Great Collapse.
- Thongvor Silver-Blood ("The Silver-Blood family will be heard!") blames you for the White-Gold Concordat.
- I'm sure there are more...

But...my character is a Bosmer! She was hanging out in giant migratory trees while all that stuff was going on. Dang racist nerds. Err. Nords.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 30 novembre 2012 - 06:34 .

[LPPrince]

Trying to get through my Insanity run of ME3 as fast as possible so I can beat it before Dragonborn.

GAH

C'MON

[Barbarossa2010]

Mako fan here!   I mean, I absolutely loved the Mako, but understand than many didn't. It was more a product of a game with some semblance of exploration than anything.  It was at least a symbol or instrument of freedom for the player, something that many of us who are attracted to Bethesda games value.  I liked the Hammerhead as well, just not as much as the Mako, since the Mako was more engineered for "open world" exploration.  Both were infinitely better than the nothingness that we got in ME3.  But I digress...

Maven is more of a symbolic sore thumb than anything else.  She's indicative of everything that Riften represents: hopelessly corrupt, rampantly crime ridden, poverty stricken, an inpenetrable fortress of puppet politics, in all--a crappy little place (unless, of course, you are a character who relishes such an atmosphere).  And here you are: Dragonborn, dragon slayer, the bane of all banditry, king or queen of all beasts, and general all around ass-stomping dynamo, forced to tolerate Maven's slights, and generally pay deference to an unworthy "power" family, all the while yourself being powerless to just burn it all to the ground.  Not saying all characters feel this way, but certainly some do, and would appropriately take action; yet there Riften sits, with Maven in full plot armor, pulling the strings, an inerasable blight on the map of Skyrim.

[Yrkoon]

*sigh*  On the dragon riding issue,   I'm constantly being  told to "drop it",  only to turn around and see a half dozen of you posters bringing the topic back up and  discussing it  away.  Screw that.   I reserve the right to engage in a skyrim-based discussion on this thread, just like the rest of you. 

So  lets see what we got.

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I have to agree with you....part of the fun in Skyrim is doing kick ass awesome stuff you cant do in real life.

  What kind of talking point is that?  There  is a list a mile long -- 10 miles long --  of  kick-ass things you can do in Skyrim  that you can't do in real life.     But that doesn't mean we need giant flashy biological fighter jets to  saddle and ride for kicks.

What is so bad about riding dragons when:
A) You already did it once in the MQ and
You can rip reality a new one simply by speaking?
I mean you have a shout that yanks a dragon out of the sky already.

Finally: a rebuttal worthy of properly responding to.  Lets see....

w/regards to A:  technically we didn't.  The dragon riding was implied.    It literally occured in a cutscene, and it was placed in the game  as a one time plot device to   solve the issue  of  "how are we going to get the player from Point A to an unreachable-by-man point B"   But  Considering the known  list of Achievements  for the Dragonborn DLC, I'm fairly certain Dragon riding in it will be something on a different scale  entirely.

As for B:  For crying out loud, can we tone down the straw man burining for a few minutes?  This was *never* a discussion about Reality, or lack of it, or suspension of it.  Instead, it was always about something else.

1)  the horrible disease  that has tainted even *mature* games these days finally  making its way to Skyrim: needless   flashiness for marketing sake - not unlike rogues in DA2 tossing hand grenades in the air and then  Chuck-Norris-roundhouse-kicking them at enemies for the "awesome" factor when they could instead just  straight-up throw them at enemies.

2)  YES, it's cartoonish.  And UNLIKE other stuff that has been mentioned as a comparison  (stuff like vampirism, and intensly powerful magic  e.g.  Thu'ums and  actual realism-breaking spells  etc,)  Dragon riding is exclusive to  youth-based fiction, while the other stuff  has a LOONG  history in both Mythology and   classic literature.

3)  Dragon riding was a l33t skill in World of Warcraft.  Anything that reminds me of that stupid MMO and its  drone addicts, automatically damns itself  as bad and irredeemable  in my eyes.

4) it's just a  cheap concept who's utility purpose could be  better implemented   via  a)  flight-spells  less gaudy mounts.  (Griffons,  Hippogriffs, Pegasi, Nightmares etc.) or even c) dwemer technology.

And before any of you spout the LAZY and DISHONEST   argument-dismissal of:  "If you don't like it, then don't play it/buy it/whine about it", I'll say it again.  Nothing is going to stop me from buying and playing Dragonborn, and then returning here to discuss all of it.    What I'm doing here is simply explaining, to people who have been asking,  Why. I. Dislike. The. Notion. of Dragon. Mounts.  In a masterpiece of art like Skyrim.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 30 novembre 2012 - 08:55 .

[LPPrince]

Yrkoon wrote...

w/regards to A:  technically we didn't.  The dragon riding was implied.

1:45

Sure looks implied to me. 

Modifié par LPPrince, 30 novembre 2012 - 08:32 .

[Yrkoon]

It's a cutscene. Not gameplay. The point stands.

[LPPrince]

Dude.

Seriously?

[Yrkoon]

 Yes, Seriously, dude. Do you get to look down at the world below? Or do you just get to watch yourself and Odhaviing fly away for a few seconds before the load screen comes up and "poof" you're suddenly in Skuldfan?

Modifié par Yrkoon, 30 novembre 2012 - 08:50 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Wow really?
I see you posting but all I get is:

[Yrkoon]

Like I said, you lack any sort of intelligent response, and you always have on this issue. Refute my points, now or stop wasting my time with your questions, KID.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 30 novembre 2012 - 09:22 .

[rwilli80]

Just curious has anyone been having problems with the game freezing when saving?