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[miltos33]

renjility wrote...

^ But the solution of a shout forcing the dragon to serve as a mount seems similar to the shout that forces dragons to land. It's the same idea.


On an unrelated topic, this is probably old news for everyone here, but when I went into a game store today and browsed through the pc games I stumbled upon a hard copy of Dawnguard. I didn't know that Bethesda had released the DLC as hard copy mini expansion as well. If I had known, I would have bought one instead of downloading it (I like hard copies).

Did you check if there was a disk inside the box? Because I also came across a boxed version of Dawnguard in a game store but all there was inside was a Steam code. 

[Dutchess]

No, I didn't check that. They never keep the discs in the box here; they put it back in when you purchase it. But if you say there's only a steam code in the box, I assume there's no real disc then.

[Giggles_Manically]

Yrkoon wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

You have no idea how awesome I'm gonna feel riding a dragon over Skyrim. Oh man, YUSS.

Its gonna be beautiful.

There's nothing in the files, the trailer, or *anything* that suggests we'll be able to fly Dragons over any part of the Skyrim Province.

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Dragon riding being good or bad is primarily in the delivery, not the actual premise itself.

 When it comes to Skyrim, it's both.  Unlike other games, Skyrim's dragons  are intelligent beings.   As smart or smarter than the Human and Elven citizenry.   That is what makes them  such dynamic enemies/allies   (from a story perspective) in this game.    How would you feel about being able to mount a Nord, or a High Elf?  Well?  The premise is the same.  To treat them as if they were nothing more than  Animals to be tamed and ridden, like horses or other wildlife,  is... silly.  And cheap, even if it the end result is  "wee!   riding dragons is fun!"

The solution Bethesda appears to opting for here  (based on  the new Shout, and the new Achievement) is to allow the player's character  to *force* a dragon to be  his mount through Magic  -  a fact that seems completely lost  on people who claim to hate the  "a Mage did it!"  story-writing trope.

Ahem:
 
Unless High Hrothgar is actually a camper van explain how it got from Skyrim to Solstheim 

As for the rest dude stop selling your opionion as FACT, when in FACT its just your opionion. 

[Yrkoon]

What makes you think that's the player character?

As for "the rest of my post", I believe I asked a question,  dude....

Modifié par Yrkoon, 01 décembre 2012 - 05:44 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Yrkoon wrote...

What makes you think that's the player character?

Because they are wearing the get up that the Dragonborn wears in all the promo material?

You know I am trying not say something I will regret but honestly? You are acting just like Justina does.
Coming into a thread and telling everyone they are wrong and childish for liking something.
Acting superior and "better" or having more refined tastes then others.

Its just very annoying.
I dont even know why I respond when all you do is scream about how vile it is that GASP you ride a dragon.
If you dont like it, you probably will only even half to do it once. 

This is why none of us on the BSN go to the Bethesda forums because its filled with monomaniacs like you ranting over one thing. The DLC is probably not even going to be about riding Dragons, no more then Dawnguard was about riding Arvak! 

Ugh I give up. 

Modifié par Giggles_Manically, 01 décembre 2012 - 05:56 .

[Yrkoon]

Eh?  The helmit looks different  to me, which is why I asked.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 01 décembre 2012 - 06:00 .

[Giggles_Manically]

You know what?
Be an **** on your own time I have better things to do then sit around entertaining a monomaniac.

[Yrkoon]

 I *am* on my own time.  And this discussion was proceeding as usual before your recent input, wasn't it. No one forced you to forgo any "better things to do" in order to respond.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 01 décembre 2012 - 06:04 .

[LPPrince]

Yrkoon wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

You have no idea how awesome I'm gonna feel riding a dragon over Skyrim. Oh man, YUSS.

Its gonna be beautiful.

There's nothing in the files, the trailer, or *anything* that suggests we'll be able to fly Dragons over any part of the Skyrim Province.

except seeing the Dragonborn flying a Dragon over the Skyrim Province in the trailer.

/why do I even bother

[Bekkael]

Huh, sorry to hear some aren't looking forward to all the great stuff in the upcoming DLC. Personally, I can't wait to ride a dragon, or any other awesome thing that Bethesda has cooked up for our entertainment and enjoyment. Bring it on, I am ready!

[TEWR]

Yrkoon wrote...

How would you feel about being able to mount a Nord?

Well... my Nord mounted Aela. =P

Seriously though, I think you may have a point. In both of the games I listed that have dragon riding as a part of its background, the Dragons themselves are intelligent as well. But you could only ride them if they agreed to it.

For SO:TtEoT, the Kingdom of Airyglyph has an entire Dragon Brigade. The riders, however, must undergo a specific rite and prove to a Dragon that they're worthy of riding them. If the Dragon accepts, then boom -- another Dragon rider. If they refuse... it generally ends badly.

The biggest dragon in that game had to be fought and beaten just so you could ride him when **** hit the fan, because before then he was continuously saying what amounts to "Hell no!"

If Skryim's Dragonborn DLC incorporates a randomizer for the success rate of riding a Dragon when the Dragonborn uses the Shout, I think that'd be fine. Use it once, you might succeed. Use it again, you might succeed or fail. And so on and so on.

Then again...

renjility wrote...

But the solution of a shout forcing the dragon to serve as a mount seems similar to the shout that forces dragons to land. It's the same idea.

...this is valid as well. If the game allows you to force Dragons to do something already, then it allowing you to force the Dragons to do another thing isn't that different.

Granted, I've never encountered a Dragon landing shout, but then again I haven't even finished the game because of a combination of work, PS3 lag, and just all around exhaustion.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 02 décembre 2012 - 04:05 .

[dragonflight288]

The shout is called Dragon Rend...you learn it going through the main quest line as a way to force Alduin to the ground so he doesn't stay up in the air and summoning meteors all the time.

[TEWR]

Oh okay then. I'm almost to the point where I'll probably learn it. I've got the Elder Scroll in hand but I'm just derping around Skyrim at the moment. The world will be there still on the morrow. 

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 02 décembre 2012 - 05:28 .

[Addai]

Yrkoon wrote...
The solution Bethesda appears to opting for here  (based on  the new Shout, and the new Achievement) is to allow the player's character  to *force* a dragon to be  his mount through Magic  -  a fact that seems completely lost  on people who claim to hate the  "a Mage did it!"  story-writing trope.

There's no reason to believe it won't be on any other basis than what we already have for summoning Odahviing- that the dragons are consenting or bowing to someone whose thu'um is proven superior.

You're reaching.

[TEWR]

I'm gonna fly my Dragon into a mountain.

[Elhanan]

It would be kinda cool that if the dragon is slain in flight, so falleth the DB. Maybe I could land on Maven!

However, I am more for the other things this DLC might bring (ie; new areas, spells, Shouts, visions of sugarplums, etc).

[LPPrince]

Most certainly impossible, but it would be cool as hell if you could dismount your dragon ride in midair and survive the fall by landing in water. Hah

Now THAT would be an achievement worth getting.

[Captain Crash]

I think they got it backwards.

I mean riding a Dragon is cool, but you are Dovah and have their soul.  We have Werewolves and Vampire Lord forms....  you can see where this is going, yes I want to turn into a Dragon!

[LPPrince]

I thought you were going to say you wanted a dragon to ride US.

[dragonflight288]

Captain Crash wrote...

I think they got it backwards.

I mean riding a Dragon is cool, but you are Dovah and have their soul.  We have Werewolves and Vampire Lord forms....  you can see where this is going, yes I want to turn into a Dragon!

You could play Divinity II, the Dragon Knight saga. That allows you to turn into a dragon. (warning : Controls are kind of odd and graphics are nowhere near as good as they can be. Also watch out for an unintelligent antagonist and a somewhat predictable plot....but you turn into a dragon!)

[Jvolikas]

looking for a little help here.


After some time away from Skyrim I'm getting back into some of the quests and am currently trying to finish the Stones of Barenziah. I've got 23 of 24, but have checked the Wiki for it and I have visited each and every location multiple times to try and find the one I am missing...no luck. Is it possible the game glitched out somewhere and lost one? The only one I can think of is if the Stone in the DB sanctuary is really only allowed to be collected during the specific quests mentioned on the Wiki....otherwise I'm stumped.

[Elhanan]

^ You may wish to re-check the sites where these stones are commonly seen (eg; Proudspire, Jovvaskr, College of Winterhold, etc). Sometimes it is easy to overlook what one expects to see.

I am also not one into riding Dragons, but it would be somewhat more immersive if one did have the element of danger involved while in flight.

[Jvolikas]

Elhanan wrote...

^ You may wish to re-check the sites where these stones are commonly seen (eg; Proudspire, Jovvaskr, College of Winterhold, etc). Sometimes it is easy to overlook what one expects to see.

I am also not one into riding Dragons, but it would be somewhat more immersive if one did have the element of danger involved while in flight.

I went back and checked each location on the Wiki and didnt see any...but I guess I'll just have to check them again.

[Addai]

There's a mod that adds quest markers for them. If you're on PC, you could try that.

[Jvolikas]

Addai67 wrote...

There's a mod that adds quest markers for them. If you're on PC, you could try that.

Sadly, I'm on 360.