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MarchWaltz wrote...

So are there spears? And are they 2 handed only? Or can I use 'em with a shield?


No spears. "Spears" are these little things Rieklings throw at you. If you pick them up, you can fire them as a new type of arrow.

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Anyway, spears aren't so goddamned important that its worth flipping out about.

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happy_daiz wrote...

^ I knew there was another reason I like you. Image IPB I mentioned Halberds earlier on this page - in any game where I can use a Halberd, I always do. White Knight Chronicles comes to mind, actually. And a couple of others I can picture, but can't place. Arrgh.

Well, that's cool. I can appreciate diversity in weaponry, and it makes sense to be true to the character you're playing's persona. I just don't personally have any experience with spears, IRL, or in games, so I wasn't sure what the draw was.


Ever see 300? :D

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Joy Divison wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...

^ I knew there was another reason I like you. Image IPB I mentioned Halberds earlier on this page - in any game where I can use a Halberd, I always do. White Knight Chronicles comes to mind, actually. And a couple of others I can picture, but can't place. Arrgh.

Well, that's cool. I can appreciate diversity in weaponry, and it makes sense to be true to the character you're playing's persona. I just don't personally have any experience with spears, IRL, or in games, so I wasn't sure what the draw was.


Ever see 300? :D


And that is a fairly decent reason why they are not being implemented, as more folks would be disappointed with some kind of walkaround than a true depiction of spear usage.

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Hhhhhhhnnnnnnnnggggggggggg

So I got my light armor up to 100!
Now to level my speech from 65-100.....

HHHNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG

I want to hit level 81

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LPPrince wrote...

Anyway, spears aren't so goddamned important that its worth flipping out about.


Indeed!

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Hhhhhhhnnnnnnnnggggggggggg

So I got my light armor up to 100!
Now to level my speech from 65-100.....

HHHNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG

I want to hit level 81


Yeah, to hit 81 absolutely everything needs to be around 100.

With everything max'd to 100 you should be about halfway to 82.

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I come seeking help in Dragonborn. Spoilers will follow...

Ok so I'm doing The Final Descent quest, I found Gratian's corpse, the sword and the journal, solved the door puzzle, traveled through the blade traps, got the black book, did all that nonsense, fought the dragon priest, got the dragon shout and am ready to go in the door at the top of the stairs. My question is how do I get Meeko and Serana through the blade traps? I can't get the blades shut off to get them through and told them to wait at the start.

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Shouldn't they just instantly be outside the moment you exit?

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I dunno, I thought that door lead to another part of the dungeon. I told them to wait so feared having to go the whole way back to Skyrim after three days to get them again.

I got past it anyway using brute force and unintentional comedy. Stopping after every set to heal Meeko while leaving Serana to be battered around by swinging blades. Watching her getting smacked and sliced around while i heal the dog was somewhat hilarious.

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Follower AI in Skyrim!
For when you absolutely have to herp the derp

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[Flonk] it! After all that, Serana killed Meeko(again!) during a fight with some bandits and I'm randomly a vampire that can't be cured...again.

Reloading of an earlier save can wait until tomorrow.

:ph34r:[No swearing, please.]:ph34r:

Modifié par Ninja Stan, 06 décembre 2012 - 09:35 .


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Elhanan wrote...
But must remember that this great DLC is $20, so at the difference in price, the indv DLC is somewhere twixt 2-4 seperate pieces; about the same cost.

Not sure I'm following your math, here.

Bioware's most meaty DLC  (length and content-wise) is Legacy.   By even the slowest, most thorough playthrus, it gives you about 4-5 hours of playtime.... at a cost of 10 dollars.    Dawnguard is double that price, but easily offers 5 times the content.  

Not comparable, so here's a better example.   Dragon Age:  Awakening,  A full blown Bioware expansion pack for DA:O.   It was much larger than your standard  Dragon age  DLC, but it cost  $40  ie. TWICE the cost of Dawnguard,  yet still smaller.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 06 décembre 2012 - 02:17 .


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I decided to go fight The Ebony Warrior(level 81 quest).

Dude's AWESOME.

He takes a TON of hits, he regenerates health, he hits hard, he shouts, he can disarm you, and he won't let up.

Awesome fight. I had to use-

Shouts-

Dragon Aspect(to improve my abilities for the entirety of the fight)
Fire Breath(just to hit him with something else in the middle of the fight)
Unrelenting Force(Fus Ro Dah finally did him in, twas the killing blow...see what I did there?)

Powers-

Mora's Boon(Once a day will instantly refill your mana, health, and stamina)

I had a hard fight with him the first time, and I beat him, but he disarmed me of my daedric sword and daedric bow. I found my sword and not my bow, so I reloaded and fought him again, this time keeping all my stuff(phew).

Good lord I want some more fights like that.

I wish all the luck in the World to those who face him on the hardest difficulty setting.

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Joy Divison wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...

So what is the appeal with spears, anyway? Were they in a previous TES?


Speaking just for myself, the weapon my character wields is as much a defining characteristic as her personality, ambitions, face, etc.  I don't just use whatever; it has to have a certain style, feel and look.

Yep,  This is precisely my gaming philosphy to a T.  And you can't imagine how much heat   you'll take here by arguing that weapon-types matter for roleplaying,  to a forum  full of people who's  only concern is whether X is romanceable, or whether male characters  will have chest  hair   LOL


That all said, I'm  never nearly as excited for the possibility of spears  being added to a game as I am for Crossbows.  I love crossbows.  And I'm glad they're now in Skyrim.    But spears?  Meh, they're alright, but they have an overly primitive , 'savage' stigma attached to them, and unless I'm role-playing a loin-cloth wearing savage, I can never feel truly comfortable playing through a game with a spear-wielder.

The next time you'll see me excited about a weapon addition in skyrim is if they ever  encorporate Flails.  Flails, especially 2-handed flails, are probably my favorite weapon in a video game.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 06 décembre 2012 - 02:52 .


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Yrkoon wrote...

Not sure I'm following your math, here.

Bioware's most meaty DLC  (length and content-wise) is Legacy.   By even the slowest, most thorough playthrus, it gives you about 4-5 hours of playtime.... at a cost of 10 dollars.    Dawnguard is double that price, but easily offers 5 times the content.  

Not comparable, so here's a better example.   Dragon Age:  Awakening,  A full blown Bioware expansion pack for DA:O.   It was much larger than your standard  Dragon age  DLC, but it cost  $40  ie. TWICE the cost of Dawnguard,  yet still smaller.


Legacy plus two Full class Packs of Item Sets = ca. $20. less area; more story and dialogue.

Leliana's Story plus Warden's Keep plus Return To Ostagar = ca. $19; also far more story and dialogue.

Plus the AI to DA series is superior; both for dogs and companions.

Math seems about equal to me.

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Leliana Song + Warden's Keep + Return to Ostagar + Stone Prisoner + Witchhunt + Feast Day Pack = $38 (?), and it's still about 1/3 the size and content of Dawnguard ($20)

But to be fair, It's hard to quantify these things. How does one measure content, exactly? I for one, do NOT place more weight on fancy cinematic cutscenes and dramatic chatty dialogue than I do on More questing,  more character skills, more exploration, fresh new dungeons and new massive landscapes.  By comparison, Witch hunt gave me practically zero new content, as there's essentially no new areas to explore, and no new abilities to gain. All it offers is half a story and a couple of really talkative NPCs to hang out with for an hour or so as you're completing the DLC's 4-5 quests..

Modifié par Yrkoon, 06 décembre 2012 - 03:16 .


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Yrkoon wrote...

Leliana Song + Warden's Keep + Return to Ostagar + Stone Prisoner + Witchhunt + Feast Day Pack = $38 (?), and it's still about 1/3 the size and content of Dawnguard ($20)

But to be fair, It's hard to quantify these things. How does one measure content, exactly? I for one, do NOT place more weight on fancy cinematic cutscenes and dramatic chatty dialogue than I do on More questing,  more character skills, more exploration, fresh new dungeons and new massive landscapes.  By comparison, Witch hunt gave me practically zero new content, as there's essentially no new areas to explore, and no new abilities to gain. All it offers is half a story and a couple of really talkative NPCs to hang out with for an hour or so.


Agree with emboldened, as such quality is subjective. Personally, minus the Feastday Pack, I received more enjoyment from the Bioware DLC, and received Stone Prisoner for free.

Still, I am also enjoying DG, and am glad to note that DB seems to follow suit. Not here to bash Skyrim or Bethesda at all, but am glad to support DLC from both, as I see high quality in both games.

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My oh my I just completed Dragonborn. In my opinion this Dlc is better than Dawnguard they did a great job on the island and the boss battle was EPIC truly a great DLC.. how they all should be.

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I WANT MOAR

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Okay, so remember when I talked about the Black Books?

There are seven.

One of them lets you respec your character's skills after you beat the Dragonborn main quest.

Of the remaining six, three allow you to pick a power you can use at will and the other three allow you to pick an active effect to carry with you at all times.

I just found the seventh Black Book(at least for me) and the three options it gave me for a power were-

Once a Day,

*For 30 seconds, take half damage
*For 30 seconds, power attacks cost no stamina

oooooor,

*For 30 seconds, spells cost no mana

WHAT IN SEVEN HELLS IS THIS!?

WOOT. My character is a warrior and rogue who uses a sword and shield as well as bow and arrows. Doesn't use magic barring healing spells.

But now?

I can use any spell in the game regardless of how much mana it takes(good, I only have 108 mana lol) for 30 seconds.

The Dragonborn is God.

Modifié par LPPrince, 06 décembre 2012 - 06:57 .


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^ Sorry, but even a demi-god can do better than 30 seconds a day. At best, the DB is a Nordic super-hero. IMO.

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LIMITATIONS TO MAKE THE POPULACE FEEL BETTER ABOUT THEMSELVES

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Gave my daughter Runa a Daedric Dagger of something or other enchantment and she immediately went up to her room and started swinging.

Raising a warrior already. NICE. Ysolda and I are so proud.

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Loving Dragonborn so far. Not even done yet and it's already well worth the money. I especially love that Bethesda gave us a hugely powerful but optional boss fight with the Ebony Warrior. Extremely tough but optional boss fights are one of my favorite features in games, always giving a good sense of accomplishment when you defeat them. Unlike some certain devs who think boss fights are "too video-gamey"...<_<

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