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[Giggles_Manically]

@Happy:
No not that its actually an old English term I am using there.

Morrowind WAS great, right now its old as hell with so many things that have been smoothed out that I cant even play it.

I loved it years ago but **** its old as hell now.

[happy_daiz]

^ Ahh, that's good. Because that urban dictionary explanation was creepy.

blaidfiste wrote...
I normally sacrifice Sven to Boethiah.  Faendal's letter afterwards was funny.

The only Daedra I've stopped helping regularly are 
Namira - If Eola was straightforward with me it would be ok but instead she tries to play me for a fool.  So I fail that immediately
Vaermina - Thorougly unconvincing in her attempt to persuade me.

Oh, Sven! I always forget about him. Probably because he always tells me, "you're nothing but trouble".

Namira, Vaermina, and I go way back. I'm always down to help a couple sisters (in my mind) out. The dream stick sits in a weapon rack, but Namira's ring gets a lot of use in the early part of each run.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 14 décembre 2012 - 04:22 .

[blaidfiste]

happy_daiz wrote...

blaidfiste wrote...

 Clearly, it's Serana that got sworn in since she pushed me out of the circle.

That's exactly why I ended up ditching her for J'Zargo in my recent Bosmer run. She was driving me bonkers with her Barbas-ing.

Take Serana to the Greybeard peace summit for a good laugh.  Whenever someone get's up from the table, she'll take their seat.

[happy_daiz]

^ Yep, I've witnessed that first-hand. I can't stop myself from giggling, either, because it's usually Ulfric's seat she takes.

[blaidfiste]

Addai67 wrote...

Oh, a Morrowind nostalgist. Grand. Not like the BGS forums has enough of those.

More money for BGS since most of them continue to buy their games if only to say that Morrowind did it better.

[blaidfiste]

happy_daiz wrote...

^ Ahh, that's good. Because that urban dictionary explanation was creepy.

blaidfiste wrote...
I normally sacrifice Sven to Boethiah.  Faendal's letter afterwards was funny.

The only Daedra I've stopped helping regularly are 
Namira - If Eola was straightforward with me it would be ok but instead she tries to play me for a fool.  So I fail that immediately
Vaermina - Thorougly unconvincing in her attempt to persuade me.

Oh, Sven! I always forget about him. Probably because he always tells me, "you're nothing but trouble".

Namira, Vaermina, and I go way back. I'm always down to help a couple sisters (in my mind) out. The dream stick sits in a weapon rack, but Namira's ring gets a lot of use in the early part of each run.

You have to screw over Faendal in the love triangle but at least he lives.  Sometimes I'll sacrifice the executioner from Solitude.  Sadly the db initiates won't touch the pillar.

[Jaison1986]

blaidfiste wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...

^ Ahh, that's good. Because that urban dictionary explanation was creepy.

blaidfiste wrote...
I normally sacrifice Sven to Boethiah.  Faendal's letter afterwards was funny.

The only Daedra I've stopped helping regularly are 
Namira - If Eola was straightforward with me it would be ok but instead she tries to play me for a fool.  So I fail that immediately
Vaermina - Thorougly unconvincing in her attempt to persuade me.

Oh, Sven! I always forget about him. Probably because he always tells me, "you're nothing but trouble".

Namira, Vaermina, and I go way back. I'm always down to help a couple sisters (in my mind) out. The dream stick sits in a weapon rack, but Namira's ring gets a lot of use in the early part of each run.

You have to screw over Faendal in the love triangle but at least he lives.  Sometimes I'll sacrifice the executioner from Solitude.  Sadly the db initiates won't touch the pillar.

Yeah, I aways use Ahtar for the sacrifice (so how does it feel to on the other side of the stick, eh Ahtar?). Poor Sven, I find him slightly less annoying then Faedal.
I can't help Vaermina because I would feel like an dick betraying Erandur. And Namira, no thanks, no canibalism for me.

Modifié par Jaison1986, 14 décembre 2012 - 04:51 .

[happy_daiz]

Jaison1986 wrote...

blaidfiste wrote...

You have to screw over Faendal in the love triangle but at least he lives.  Sometimes I'll sacrifice the executioner from Solitude.  Sadly the db initiates won't touch the pillar.

Yeah, I aways use Ahtar for the sacrifice (so how does it feel to on the other side of the stick, eh Ahtar?). Poor Sven, I find him slightly less annoying then Faedal.
I can't help Vaermina because I would feel like an dick betraying Erandur. And Namira, no thanks, no canibalism for me.

Ahtar? I've never sacrificed him. I am a little sad I can't squeeze out his wife and marry him, actually.

I'm still trying for the Oblivion Walker achievement, so Erandur always gets the axe, as it were. Sorry Erandur. Until I actually get the achievement, you're fair game.

Namira and cannibalism, though...I like Eola, and I don't see a need to impose my RL morals on my Dovahkiins. They all do what they want. It's out of my hands. 

They all like that ring, and the cutie pie vixen that leads them to it, dern it.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 14 décembre 2012 - 05:16 .

[blaidfiste]

The only reason I took that ring is because I almost always take the cannibal perk in FO3 and FNV. I imagine the bad karma sound effect while feasting in Skyrim. I can't do it on every playthrough though.

[Addai]

blaidfiste wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Oh, a Morrowind nostalgist. Grand. Not like the BGS forums has enough of those.

More money for BGS since most of them continue to buy their games if only to say that Morrowind did it better.

Sure, it's just grating.  At what point does "Skyrim is boring, Morrowind Morrowind Morrowind" become so boring in itself that people shouldn't even bother.  GO PLAY MORROWIND.

As for the daedric quests... I don't give a fig about achievements, so I've never done Nocturnal's, Boethiah's, Molag Bal's, or Namira's, and never turned on Erandur.  I wish they gave you more ways to resolve those quests in ways that screw the princes over, like Azura's quest and letting Erandur destroy the Skull.

Modifié par Addai67, 14 décembre 2012 - 05:38 .

[happy_daiz]

^ Figs are delicious, I can see why you'd keep them to yourself.

It would be nice if there were alternate paths to Daedric quests. Kind of like the alternate path in the Gildergreen quest. I can't tell you how many times I butchered that poor tree before I realized you could just get a sapling.

Or in Blood on the Ice, how you could resolve it in one part by simply talking to Wuunferth, instead of following the quest log's direction.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 14 décembre 2012 - 05:42 .

[LobselVith8]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Elhanan wrote...

^^ They are evil, but does not mean that the Player has to be. Choose questlines that are more in keeping with your vision, and when asked to take a mission outside of those guidelines; decline. So what if they give you a litlle jazz; what can they really do to you?

I wouldn't call the Thieves' Guild evil, really. They're honorable, albeit self-serving.

The only thing I disliked and is probably the reason I never do their questline anymore is the fact you have to sell your soul to a daedra. 

It's not that much different if you become a werewolf for the rest of your life, since your lycantrophy will compel your soul to the Hunting Grounds once you finally die, or if you serve the Dark Brotherhood, since your soul goes to the Void after death.

I suppose it depends entirely on your perspective. I've noticed that some people on some boards think it's "evil" to help Nelacar, but I think it fit for my Tribunal mage to defy Azura and help create the Black Star. For my character, it was the right decision.

LPPrince wrote...

My Dragonborn made so many deals with the Daedra in Skyrim that its pretty much guaranteed that they'll all fight over his soul once he dies.

In other words, he didn't care who he sold his soul to or who he made a deal with. He knows they'll be busy fighting each other over him so he's good.

Dragonborn: the John Constantine of Skyrim.

Jaison1986 wrote...

I think you only make deals with an couple of daedras. The ones I know are: Boethiah, Hermaeus Mora, Molag bal, Meridia and Nocturnal. I don't really think you becomes Mehrunes Dagon champion since he sends some daedras to kill you regardless of what you do. I think the only troublesome ones to deal with will be Boethiah and Molag bal since they are downright evil.

Should we expect any better from Mehrunes Dagon? We saw in Oblivion what happened to his followers, after all. Also, I think all of the Daedric Princes can be trouble, depending on the circumstances; none of them are good in the traditional sense.

[KBomb]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Huh so it did work....

So hello to my first ever Bosmer character in any TES game.

http://cloud.steampo...6A26DED1BC26A1/
Everyone say hello to Hode.

If someone can get what I am referencing with that name...many cookies for you.
If you can also put Hipster glasses on that picture I would love that too....

Is he an archer theif? Does his name have anything to do with Robin Hood?

[blaidfiste]

I tried to rp the Gildergreen quest with my Bosmer but the peaceful resolution depends on that idiot follower surviving the trip.

[happy_daiz]

blaidfiste wrote...

I tried to rp the Gildergreen quest with my Bosmer but the peaceful resolution depends on that idiot follower surviving the trip.

To make that super easy on yourself, I recommend finding the sanctuary first, then accepting the quest from him and fast-traveling. He never makes it far outside Whiterun, otherwise.


I didn't realize for quite a while that you could just fast-travel with temporary companions if you needed to go long distances. Like with Esbern or Delphine, or while doing the Book of Love. Derp.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 14 décembre 2012 - 06:03 .

[KBomb]

happy_daiz wrote...

blaidfiste wrote...

I tried to rp the Gildergreen quest with my Bosmer but the peaceful resolution depends on that idiot follower surviving the trip.

To make that super easy on yourself, I recommend finding the sanctuary first, then accepting the quest from him and fast-traveling. He never makes it far outside Whiterun, otherwise.

The guy you take to the sanctuary gives you a sapling? I took him there and he didn't do anything. Maybe it was a bug. Is there anything you have to do special once you get him there?

[happy_daiz]

You have to give him time to catch up to you (after clearing a couple of the branches out of the pathway), then he should just talk to you. If not, talk to him before you get all the way up to the tree itself. He'll present an alternative at that point.

If you do that and it doesn't trigger, I'm not sure.

The sapling route is a little less satisfying in one way, though - the whole tree in Whiterun doesn't seem to bloom, since it was just a sapling. It's much prettier the butcher way.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 14 décembre 2012 - 06:13 .

[Splinter Cell 108]

LobselVith8 wrote...

It's not that much different if you become a werewolf for the rest of your life, since your lycantrophy will compel your soul to the Hunting Grounds once you finally die, or if you serve the Dark Brotherhood, since your soul goes to the Void after death.

I suppose it depends entirely on your perspective. I've noticed that some people on some boards think it's "evil" to help Nelacar, but I think it fit for my Tribunal mage to defy Azura and help create the Black Star. For my character, it was the right decision.
.

I don't do Dark Brotherhood quests and honestly the hunting grounds are not so bad. Not all Daedra are out of their mind, or at least they don't all seem to be. As for the Black Star I always help Nelacar, Azura screwed over an entire race over what three people did, plus she caused all those deaths related to that quest just because of one man's experiments. 

[billy the squid]

happy_daiz wrote...

blaidfiste wrote...

I tried to rp the Gildergreen quest with my Bosmer but the peaceful resolution depends on that idiot follower surviving the trip.

To make that super easy on yourself, I recommend finding the sanctuary first, then accepting the quest from him and fast-traveling. He never makes it far outside Whiterun, otherwise.


I didn't realize for quite a while that you could just fast-travel with temporary companions if you needed to go long distances. Like with Esbern or Delphine, or while doing the Book of Love. Derp.

I didn't know you could complete the quest peacefully!  Damn, oh well my morally abiguous axe wielding Nord Warrior will have to console himself with his werewolf wife, new house, and bottles of meed... hmmm come to think of it, I don't think he's going to feel too bad 

Modifié par billy the squid, 14 décembre 2012 - 06:18 .

[happy_daiz]

^ Yeah, I think he'll get by. Somehow.

I just took my Khajiit Ashirani to Solstheim last night, finally. I had some loose ends to tie up first, then as soon as I got to Raven Rock, realized I was pooped, and stopped playing. Something about that totally grey environment makes me immediately want to sleep. I'm so glad the whole island isn't like that!

Modifié par happy_daiz, 14 décembre 2012 - 06:26 .

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Someone needs to invent a spell that discards all the unnecessary quest items that my breton is carrying. Urgh.

[happy_daiz]

^ Good thing quest items don't actually weigh anything!

Actually, there is something in one of the Black Books from Dragonborn that may interest you, if you find yourself over-encumbered pretty often...

[LobselVith8]

happy_daiz wrote...

You have to give him time to catch up to you (after clearing a couple of the branches out of the pathway), then he should just talk to you. If not, talk to him before you get all the way up to the tree itself. He'll present an alternative at that point.

If you do that and it doesn't trigger, I'm not sure.

The sapling route is a little less satisfying in one way, though - the whole tree in Whiterun doesn't seem to bloom, since it was just a sapling. It's much prettier the butcher way.

That's because it's bugged. The sapling is basically "growing" inside the frame of the dead Gildergreen.

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

It's not that much different if you become a werewolf for the rest of your life, since your lycantrophy will compel your soul to the Hunting Grounds once you finally die, or if you serve the Dark Brotherhood, since your soul goes to the Void after death.

I suppose it depends entirely on your perspective. I've noticed that some people on some boards think it's "evil" to help Nelacar, but I think it fit for my Tribunal mage to defy Azura and help create the Black Star. For my character, it was the right decision.

I don't do Dark Brotherhood quests and honestly the hunting grounds are not so bad. Not all Daedra are out of their mind, or at least they don't all seem to be. As for the Black Star I always help Nelacar, Azura screwed over an entire race over what three people did, plus she caused all those deaths related to that quest just because of one man's experiments. 

I've done the Dark Brotherhood with my Dunmer assassin, and destroyed them with my Tribunal mage. It's all a matter of what the specific character would do in that situation. As for the Daedric Princes, I think it's safe to say they are extreme in their actions and emotions.

[Giggles_Manically]

Hahaha! LEVEL 5 AND ALREADY KILLING THALMOR!

Bosmer have plenty of reason to fight Thalmor I guess.
Still its just fun to run up to them and slaughter them.

The ponces.

[Yrkoon]

SpunkyMonkey wrote...


Nah. play Morrowind and, apart from the outdated combat, you'll see what a real TES game feels like.

Skyrim is just so bland and typical - Morrowind is like adventuring on an alien world at times.

Er...  I disagree?  I loved morrowind for its gameplay mechanics and its dream-like locales.  But "excitement" and "narrative" wise its not, at all, on a some lofty level above Skyrim.  If Anything,  Bethesda's story-telling has improved  tremendously since 2002

Modifié par Yrkoon, 14 décembre 2012 - 07:13 .