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[Elhanan]

I tried 'When Vampires Attack', and nearly the entire city of Whiterun remained in hiding for two days; found 'em stuffed bumper to bumper in the Bannered Mare. Uninstalled.

Mods that add penalties and hinderances in the name of realism do so at their own risk. One should not interfere with the enjoyment of a game, and I use such mods rarely. While I would not minding adding a mod that made Arctic waters more deadly, it seems to be difficult to do so without adding additional rules I do not want.

Probably the same reasoning I do not play on Master difficulty; the +/- of the damge penalties makes little sense, and does little to actually toughen the enemies.

[happy_daiz]

So, I just got back from vacation, and a self-inflicted Skyrim hiatus (Persona 4), and thought I'd pick up where I left off in Dragonborn with my Khajiit 2-handed heavy...

I was thinking I'd just run right into the Raven Rock mine, kick some butt, get some loot, and run out of there with the Bloodskal blade. Easy peasy.

That is not how it went.

Draugr Deathlords made my kitty their beyotch, time and time again. I had to resort to sneaking, shooting an arrow, then backing up and staying hidden to keep myself and Belrand from dying. Over and over again. In one area, there were two Deathlords and a Wight, and this ridiculous bow dance I was doing took me about 20 minutes to kill them, one at a time. Granted, this character is pretty low-level, or poorly spec'd (she was an old one I created many months ago), but wow. It was nearly unplayable at that level (24). And that can be a tough dungeon.

I ended up stopping, and started my Khajiit mage on Dragonborn instead. Seriously, Dremora Lords are my saving grace in Solstheim. You have to be more badass than me to get by without them.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 31 décembre 2012 - 03:21 .

[Jaison1986]

I was wondering, do you guys follow any type of morality when you are being a thief? My character for example, have some... limitations when he steals. I only steal from people/factions that I really dislike, such as that vendor in Riften, you know, that woman with leather armor that is very rude to you, or those snotty high elf sisters from radiant raiment, and since I'm a stormcloak, I rob blind any one that supports the empire. Even with my character being a thief, I try to be as nice as possible. Bad influence from Fallout...

[happy_daiz]

^ You know, I don't really 'steal' much, even as a thief (well, all of my characters are thieves, technically). I do shill jobs for Vex, and numbers jobs for Delvin, and leave a lot of what is marked as 'stealing' where it's at. The amount of coin my characters acquire from doing jobs more than makes up for what I could steal. Sometimes I do bedlam jobs, now that I'm thinking about it, but mostly numbers.

Props to you for sticking to that (wow!), but I switch characters around so often, I'd forget who was doing what, and would scrap it eventually anyway. I can't remember what I ate for breakfast yesterday, let alone keep track of that stuff. Heh.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 31 décembre 2012 - 06:06 .

[Jaison1986]

Eh, morality is actually something kind of complicated for me in games... For some reason I aways want to be the good guy in games... doing the right thing, fighting for the opressed, and that sort of stuff. But Skyrim gets me so conflicted! In one side, I like to be good and play hero, while on the other side you lose so much content by trying to stay good. Namely refusing to do the dark brotherhood storyline by stading to your morals. But that would cost losing Shadowmere! I wish that they were more then assassins for hire, or at least after finishing their questline, the night mother would only gives you missions to kill bad people, unlike the old brotherhood that would kill anyone as long as the price was good. That actually would be pretty cool, you know? An group that lost their way but changes for the better once they are set back to their feet.

Modifié par Jaison1986, 31 décembre 2012 - 06:20 .

[happy_daiz]

Perpetual paragon, eh? Me too. In TES, however, I do make an exception for the Thieves Guild and the Dark Brotherhood. I don't have backstories for my characters; I don't have a moral code; I simply play how I want, and have a good time doing it. All of my characters are thieves, murderers, etc., but don't go out of their way to ruin peoples' lives (erm, well, except for Sissel's dad, but he had it coming, and I adopted Sissel).

Honestly, I'm amazed sometimes at how much thought people put into their characters, and where they come from.
I'm like, 'is she pretty?', 'does she kick arse?' OK, I'm good.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 31 décembre 2012 - 06:42 .

[naughty99]

Jaison1986 wrote...

I was wondering, do you guys follow any type of morality when you are being a thief? My character for example, have some... limitations when he steals. I only steal from people/factions that I really dislike, such as that vendor in Riften, you know, that woman with leather armor that is very rude to you, or those snotty high elf sisters from radiant raiment, and since I'm a stormcloak, I rob blind any one that supports the empire. Even with my character being a thief, I try to be as nice as possible. Bad influence from Fallout...

The first character I tried was a total klepto, he was stealing everything that wasn't nailed down. Kept getting nabbed trying to pick pockets and thrown in jail all over the place. Lots of bounties, sneaking out of the various jails was fun.

Modifié par naughty99, 31 décembre 2012 - 06:36 .

[goofyomnivore]

I tried a thief character who didn't kill. Used a lot of Illusion magic.. if he ever got busted he used Calm. Also didn't carry any weapons.. hand to hand if he ever did have to fight.. but he wouldn't fight townguards he would just break out of jail.. He didn't really have any morals on what he would steal.. sometimes he would steal food, sometimes gold, sometimes jewelry whatever he fancied at the time.

Modifié par strive, 31 décembre 2012 - 06:39 .

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

Jaison1986 wrote...

I was wondering, do you guys follow any type of morality when you are being a thief? My character for example, have some... limitations when he steals. I only steal from people/factions that I really dislike, such as that vendor in Riften, you know, that woman with leather armor that is very rude to you, or those snotty high elf sisters from radiant raiment, and since I'm a stormcloak, I rob blind any one that supports the empire. Even with my character being a thief, I try to be as nice as possible. Bad influence from Fallout...

Would be cool if your bad behaviour had consequences, so like you steal from poor people and they you know.. die. Either through famine or CIty-Swimmercide. It wouldn't be a Bioware scripted consequence or the UI screaming at you "U BAD"

[happy_daiz]

^ Oh, so like you'd come back later and notice an NPC isn't around, and might find their dead body laying behind a house or something (if they're a beggar)? Or you could find their skeleton propped up in a chair at the table like a Draugr? That would add a certain something, wouldn't it? Heh.

A faction rating could be kinda cool, if you could sort out how it would actually work. I liked how FO:NV did it, personally.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 31 décembre 2012 - 07:00 .

[Jaison1986]

I think what I would like the most is an hardcore mode for Skyrim. There is an mod for that, but I didn't liked it, you get tired and hungry too quickly. Anyway, it would be cool if bethesda could patch that one day into the game.

[naughty99]

Jaison1986 wrote...

I think what I would like the most is an hardcore mode for Skyrim. There is an mod for that, but I didn't liked it, you get tired and hungry too quickly. Anyway, it would be cool if bethesda could patch that one day into the game.

Try Imp's More Complex Needs, IMO this is one of the greatest Skyrim mods ever made. Developed by our own fellow member Imp of the Perverse.

It allows you to customize your rates to match exactly the experience you are going for. Also incorporates optional advanced settings that track not only food and water intake, but protein, nutrients, fat, etc., with various buffs and debuffs depending on what sort of diet you have been eating, blood alcohol content based on alcohol consumed and your character's body mass determined by character creation menu choice, even requiring blood for vampires to survive.

Modifié par naughty99, 01 janvier 2013 - 05:10 .

[Weskerr]

Elhanan wrote...

I tried 'When Vampires Attack', and nearly the entire city of Whiterun remained in hiding for two days; found 'em stuffed bumper to bumper in the Bannered Mare. Uninstalled.

Mods that add penalties and hinderances in the name of realism do so at their own risk. One should not interfere with the enjoyment of a game, and I use such mods rarely. While I would not minding adding a mod that made Arctic waters more deadly, it seems to be difficult to do so without adding additional rules I do not want.

Probably the same reasoning I do not play on Master difficulty; the +/- of the damge penalties makes little sense, and does little to actually toughen the enemies.

I'm sorry to hear that. I haven't used the mod myself but I had heard of it. It is annoying when a mod has side effects, so to speak.

[Elhanan]

Weskerr wrote...

I'm sorry to hear that. I haven't used the mod myself but I had heard of it. It is annoying when a mod has side effects, so to speak.

To be fair, this occured on my system, and may not be a widely reported bug in the mod. And I believe the same author also has a sim one for Dragons, and the popular Wet & Cold mod that drives folks inside during storms. Due to poplar use, these mods may work for many.

Edit: 'Wet & Cold' is by another mod author; only recommended in the 'When Vampires Attack' description. Sorry for any confusion.

Modifié par Elhanan, 02 janvier 2013 - 06:01 .

[Shadow Wrought]

A random thought just occurred to me... What happens to the Dark Brotherhood questline if you finish the civil war in Ulfrics favor? Dont a good chunk of the quests take place in an imperial solitude? I dont see Ulfric allowing the Emperor to visit (even if it is just a fake).

Then again maybe im wrong. I havn't dont the DB questline in over a year and my new character just reached it

[Captain Crash]

Jaison1986 wrote...

I think what I would like the most is an hardcore mode for Skyrim. There is an mod for that, but I didn't liked it, you get tired and hungry too quickly. Anyway, it would be cool if bethesda could patch that one day into the game.

Its difficult to find a balance sometimes. I would have really liked one as well.  Although Im on the extreme edge where I thought New Vegas was way to soft.  Stuff like staying inside if theres a blizzard or get hit with zero visability and potentially attacked by Ice Wraiths in the storm.  Get warm quickly if you get wet swimming.  Since your in Ice in the Ghost Sea, two minutes swimming and you'll be lucky to avoid hypothermia at least.

Like I say im one the more crazy people when it comes to 'Hardcore'.  My ideas of "fun" would be tedious as anything to someone else!


Also random note I made an edit to the Skyrim Wiki the other day!  I feel like a crazed fan now where I can see a mistake and have to edit it! 

[blaidfiste]

 Kill it yourself



Good job

[King KvT I]

Shadow Wrought wrote...

A random thought just occurred to me... What happens to the Dark Brotherhood questline if you finish the civil war in Ulfrics favor? Dont a good chunk of the quests take place in an imperial solitude? I dont see Ulfric allowing the Emperor to visit (even if it is just a fake).

Then again maybe im wrong. I havn't dont the DB questline in over a year and my new character just reached it

 

Yeh, I guess you're right but then what if you join the Imperials and then do the DB? Thats insubordination taken to the next level.

[naughty99]

Captain Crash wrote...

Jaison1986 wrote...

I think what I would like the most is an hardcore mode for Skyrim. There is an mod for that, but I didn't liked it, you get tired and hungry too quickly. Anyway, it would be cool if bethesda could patch that one day into the game.

Its difficult to find a balance sometimes. I would have really liked one as well.  Although Im on the extreme edge where I thought New Vegas was way to soft.  Stuff like staying inside if theres a blizzard or get hit with zero visability and potentially attacked by Ice Wraiths in the storm.  Get warm quickly if you get wet swimming.  Since your in Ice in the Ghost Sea, two minutes swimming and you'll be lucky to avoid hypothermia at least.

Like I say im one the more crazy people when it comes to 'Hardcore'.  My ideas of "fun" would be tedious as anything to someone else!


Also random note I made an edit to the Skyrim Wiki the other day!  I feel like a crazed fan now where I can see a mistake and have to edit it! 

Completely agree about vanilla hardcore in NV - there was too much readily available food and water. For hypothermia, try Frostfall - there are a number of optional settings to adjust the rate of exposure, and in the advanced settings you can make swimming in cold water lethal within 30 seconds. It allows you to craft a firekit and build a fire anywhere in the world to warm up and cook your food, as long as the ground is level. Also provides a good use for animal pelts to build  various types of tents for sleeping as well.

Modifié par naughty99, 01 janvier 2013 - 05:15 .

[MarchWaltz]

It's early 2013, WHERE IS MY DRAGONBORN AND TALES OF XILLIA

FAIRYGODPARENTS

[gneisenau556]

Shadow Wrought wrote...

A random thought just occurred to me... What happens to the Dark Brotherhood questline if you finish the civil war in Ulfrics favor? Dont a good chunk of the quests take place in an imperial solitude? I dont see Ulfric allowing the Emperor to visit (even if it is just a fake).

Then again maybe im wrong. I havn't dont the DB questline in over a year and my new character just reached it

Ulfric and the Emperor are negotiating over the terms of Skyrim's independance ?

[termokanden]

Jaison1986 wrote...

I think what I would like the most is an hardcore mode for Skyrim. There is an mod for that, but I didn't liked it, you get tired and hungry too quickly. Anyway, it would be cool if bethesda could patch that one day into the game.

As an optional thing, maybe. But I can't say I see the appeal. I've yet to see a game where you had to eat and it did anything other than just annoy me.

Modifié par termokanden, 01 janvier 2013 - 07:50 .

[Shadow Wrought]

gneisenau556 wrote...

Shadow Wrought wrote...

A random thought just occurred to me... What happens to the Dark Brotherhood questline if you finish the civil war in Ulfrics favor? Dont a good chunk of the quests take place in an imperial solitude? I dont see Ulfric allowing the Emperor to visit (even if it is just a fake).

Then again maybe im wrong. I havn't dont the DB questline in over a year and my new character just reached it

Ulfric and the Emperor are negotiating over the terms of Skyrim's independance ?

I guess. Which makes it even more ineteresting if you kill him since it looks like Ulfric may have been behind it.

WHat about the opposite though. Ulfric controls Skyrim but you want to destroy the Dark Brotherhood. You would think the Penitus Ocalatus wuld have been tossed out as well huh?

[Yrkoon]

^as well as the Blades... since their supposed function is to protect the emperor. But of course when you get the mission to kill the Emperor, the Blades are nowhere in sight.