Youth4Ever wrote...
It's still not up! Just read Sony updates the PSN at their leisure late in the afternoon or early in the evening. Boo.
Modifié par happy_daiz, 12 février 2013 - 07:20 .
Modifié par Youth4Ever, 12 février 2013 - 07:29 .
What race are you playing? Honestly, I have one playthrough of an Imperial and that's it. He's a pretty boy sneak archer. Married another Imperial, Camilla Valerius and they live at Proudspire Manor in the Imperial stronghold of Skyrim. Joined the Imperial Legion and was surprised to get a Daedric Sword of the Vampire from General Tullius. A bit on the short side next to the Nords in-game. And everyone in Windhelm feels the need to point out the fact that he's not a native.Giggles_Manically wrote...
I am excited to start my new PT this Friday.
I will have all my mods re installed, AND my RP settled.
Finally going to play with an RP...not just "I need that achievement"
Giggles_Manically wrote...
I play an Imperial myself.
However he is a Stormcloak.
Former Legion soldier, served in the Great War and conflicted on who to side with.
On that note it is really hard to side with the Empire after Helgen. Bethesda should not have had them try to cut YOUR head off. I mean it just sends a bad message overall.
Modifié par happy_daiz, 12 février 2013 - 09:18 .
Modifié par happy_daiz, 12 février 2013 - 10:29 .
You get exactly the same reward from Tullius or Ulfric, only it's leveled, so if you finish the quest line earlier you'll get a lower level weapon.Youth4Ever wrote...
Joined the Imperial Legion and was surprised to get a Daedric Sword of the Vampire from General Tullius. A bit on the short side next to the Nords in-game. And everyone in Windhelm feels the need to point out the fact that he's not a native.
Addai67 wrote...
You get exactly the same reward from Tullius or Ulfric, only it's leveled, so if you finish the quest line earlier you'll get a lower level weapon.Youth4Ever wrote...
Joined the Imperial Legion and was surprised to get a Daedric Sword of the Vampire from General Tullius. A bit on the short side next to the Nords in-game. And everyone in Windhelm feels the need to point out the fact that he's not a native.
As for "Skyrim is for the Nords!" that's a general war cry that you hear from imperial Nords, Companions, etc. Nord bandits will shout it at my Nord PC. lol You also hear comments about you being a "provincial" even as a Nord character. It's the same as in Morrowind or now Dragonborn, the Dunmer there still call a Dunmer PC "outlander" because you're not native.
The racism in Skyrim gets exaggerated a lot. I mean, in Oblivion you had a countess who tortured beast races for fun, but Ulfric ignores Dunmer and somehow that's this terrible racism. "Help, help! I'm being ignored!" Heh.
He ignores the racists that go to the grey quarter to shout obscenities at odd hours in the morning after getting drunk. The elves live in a run down part of town no one cares to fix up. The dark elf you meet explains that when Nords are in danger Ulfric sends help but if its anybody else he doesn't. They don't even try to hide their racism. Its the first thing you see when you visit Windhelm. Its not a good look for the leader of a questionable rebellion to my Imperial. I never played Morrowind or Oblivion, I only know about Skyrim and the Nord racism is pretty obvious. At least in Windhelm. Some of the other holds are much more progressive.Addai67 wrote...
As for "Skyrim is for the Nords!" that's a general war cry that you hear from imperial Nords, Companions, etc. Nord bandits will shout it at my Nord PC. lol You also hear comments about you being a "provincial" even as a Nord character. It's the same as in Morrowind or now Dragonborn, the Dunmer there still call a Dunmer PC "outlander" because you're not native.
The racism in Skyrim gets exaggerated a lot. I mean, in Oblivion you had a countess who tortured beast races for fun, but Ulfric ignores Dunmer and somehow that's this terrible racism. "Help, help! I'm being ignored!" Heh.
Modifié par Youth4Ever, 13 février 2013 - 01:06 .
Addai67 wrote...
You get exactly the same reward from Tullius or Ulfric, only it's leveled, so if you finish the quest line earlier you'll get a lower level weapon.
As for "Skyrim is for the Nords!" that's a general war cry that you hear from imperial Nords, Companions, etc. Nord bandits will shout it at my Nord PC. lol You also hear comments about you being a "provincial" even as a Nord character. It's the same as in Morrowind or now Dragonborn, the Dunmer there still call a Dunmer PC "outlander" because you're not native.
The racism in Skyrim gets exaggerated a lot. I mean, in Oblivion you had a countess who tortured beast races for fun, but Ulfric ignores Dunmer and somehow that's this terrible racism. "Help, help! I'm being ignored!" Heh.
Eh, whatever. Like I said, if you played Morrowind and Oblivion, the situation in Skyrim is mild in comparison. The only one who says Ulfric ignores bandits attacking non-Nords is Brunwulf- the guy who gets his seat if he dies. He's got his point of view, doesn't mean he's right about the situation. Ulfric sends out jarl bounties for bandits just like any other jarl, and you can get the same quest as a jarl bounty that Brunwulf gives you.Elhanan wrote...
Not only racism, but apathy, too. Ulfric may or may not be a racist himself, but he allows it to flourish under his watch. One may detest the Thalmor as much as anyone, but Ulfric and his ilk are not the ones to choose to lead the way towards enlightenment and restoration of the nation or Empire.
And I never noticed that Gunmar and Rolff were kin before yesterday; two of my personal favorites for dispensing DB retribution.
Yeah, that's the problem. People see a cutscene and don't pay attention to anything else. Elder Scrolls writing is a lot subtler than that. Follow that poor, harassed Dunmer woman down to the docks and see what she says about Argonians. And the Dunmer can't pick up a hammer? Honestly, the Dunmer who are whining about Nords not being nice to them are big babies. No self- respecting Dunmer should be standing around looking for a handout from Nords.Youth4Ever wrote...
He ignores the racists that go to the grey quarter to shout obscenities at odd hours in the morning after getting drunk. The elves live in a run down part of town no one cares to fix up. The dark elf you meet explains that when Nords are in danger Ulfric sends help but if its anybody else he doesn't. They don't even try to hide their racism. Its the first thing you see when you visit Windhelm.
Modifié par Addai67, 13 février 2013 - 01:33 .
I played the game wrong? It's about what the Nord said to the Dark Elf. That's what matters. Its not about who's more racist. It's his faction of Nords that are seeking to usurp rule in Skyrim. My Imperial who has decided to take up residence in Skyrim should look at the out-and-out displays of racism -- the Pro-Nord and Anti-Everybody else attitude -- in the city of the rebellion -- right under Ulfric's nose this is happening -- seriously. I can't ignore it. These people want to rule Skyim? Nope.Addai67 wrote...
Yeah, that's the problem. People see a cutscene and don't pay attention to anything else. Elder Scrolls writing is a lot subtler than that. Follow that poor, harassed Dunmer woman down to the docks and see what she says about Argonians. And the Dunmer can't pick up a hammer? Honestly, the Dunmer who are whining about Nords not being nice to them are big babies. No self- respecting Dunmer should be standing around looking for a handout from Nords.
Addai67 wrote...
Eh, whatever. Like I said, if you played Morrowind and Oblivion, the situation in Skyrim is mild in comparison. The only one who says Ulfric ignores bandits attacking non-Nords is Brunwulf- the guy who gets his seat if he dies. He's got his point of view, doesn't mean he's right about the situation. Ulfric sends out jarl bounties for bandits just like any other jarl, and you can get the same quest as a jarl bounty that Brunwulf gives you.Elhanan wrote...
Not only racism, but apathy, too. Ulfric may or may not be a racist himself, but he allows it to flourish under his watch. One may detest the Thalmor as much as anyone, but Ulfric and his ilk are not the ones to choose to lead the way towards enlightenment and restoration of the nation or Empire.
And I never noticed that Gunmar and Rolff were kin before yesterday; two of my personal favorites for dispensing DB retribution.
The empire was founded on the idea that Men are divinely appointed to rule over the continent. That isn't a racist idea? Cyrodiils are just as xenophobic as any other race. Try playing an orc or elf in Oblivion and notice the comments you get.Yeah, that's the problem. People see a cutscene and don't pay attention to anything else. Elder Scrolls writing is a lot subtler than that. Follow that poor, harassed Dunmer woman down to the docks and see what she says about Argonians. And the Dunmer can't pick up a hammer? Honestly, the Dunmer who are whining about Nords not being nice to them are big babies. No self- respecting Dunmer should be standing around looking for a handout from Nords.Youth4Ever wrote...
He ignores the racists that go to the grey quarter to shout obscenities at odd hours in the morning after getting drunk. The elves live in a run down part of town no one cares to fix up. The dark elf you meet explains that when Nords are in danger Ulfric sends help but if its anybody else he doesn't. They don't even try to hide their racism. Its the first thing you see when you visit Windhelm.
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Jaison1986 wrote...
I find hard to sympathise with the dunmer, if you played or saw Morrowind, you will see they did atrocious things to the beast races, especially argonian. They are actually far more arrogant then the nords, only difference is they are now on the short side of the stick. For the nords, I prefer them over the imperials, they at least are not cowards. They prefer to die fighting for what they believe, instead of bending their knees to the enemy. People in Skyrim say "Ulfric only cares about Ulfric", but then I question, what about the empire? If selling Skyrim and Hammerfell is enough for the Thalmor to spare the empire, they will do it. The redguards chose to fight. Why the nords can't do the same as well?
Modifié par Splinter Cell 108, 13 février 2013 - 02:43 .
Youth4Ever wrote...
I played the game wrong? It's about what the Nord said to the Dark Elf. That's what matters. Its not about who's more racist. It's his faction of Nords that are seeking to usurp rule in Skyrim. My Imperial who has decided to take up residence in Skyrim should look at the out-and-out displays of racism -- the Pro-Nord and Anti-Everybody else attitude -- in the city of the rebellion -- right under Ulfric's nose this is happening -- seriously. I can't ignore it. These people want to rule Skyim? Nope.Addai67 wrote...
Yeah, that's the problem. People see a cutscene and don't pay attention to anything else. Elder Scrolls writing is a lot subtler than that. Follow that poor, harassed Dunmer woman down to the docks and see what she says about Argonians. And the Dunmer can't pick up a hammer? Honestly, the Dunmer who are whining about Nords not being nice to them are big babies. No self- respecting Dunmer should be standing around looking for a handout from Nords.
The Nords are trying to usurp rule over themselves? Okay. Ulfric is fighting two empires. Every hold has issues, and you're blaming his whole faction for two dumb drunks who just need a good beating. Niranye has the Dunmer rabble rousers' number.Youth4Ever wrote...
I played the game wrong? It's about what the Nord said to the Dark Elf. That's what matters. Its not about who's more racist. It's his faction of Nords that are seeking to usurp rule in Skyrim. My Imperial who has decided to take up residence in Skyrim should look at the out-and-out displays of racism -- the Pro-Nord and Anti-Everybody else attitude -- in the city of the rebellion -- right under Ulfric's nose this is happening -- seriously. I can't ignore it. These people want to rule Skyim? Nope.
They are crashing and burning. I see the empire's end as necessary for humanity's renewal and trying to keep their old structures in place as weakening the effort against the Thalmor. Michael Kirkbride, one of the former writers who came up with a lot of the lore, said that as chaos grows the individual groups strengthen. The best thing that could happen to Cyrodiil is for them to lose their provinces so they get their act together and get rid of the corruption in the IC. Read the game novels- the place is a mess.Splinter Cell 108 wrote...
In fact after the Thalmor are defeated, if they are ever defeated, the Empire can crash and burn for all I care, in the meanwhile their job isn't yet done.
Modifié par Addai67, 13 février 2013 - 05:42 .
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