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[Addai]

Ha ha, I used to dump stuff on the floor in Jauffre's office because I didn't trust the container. Good times.

[Elhanan]

krul2k wrote...

ok ok need to ask, are archers OP? this is my first real play through the other just being a learn the basics rush job, im level err 36 now an im basically trolling everything, i upped the difficulty to expert which i was going to eventually anyhow then make my way to master, but as things stand the now i think i might have to just put on master straight away to even get a hint of challenge with archer as on expert im still trolling through everything.

I did roll a mage an noticed straight away it was harder but didnt enjoy the mage class type at all, im feeling i may need to download mods to actually gimp my archer to make things less easy

Nerfing is not a good answer, IMO.

Personally, I leave the Difficulty on Adept (ie; all is fair and even on damage), and add mods that increase the power of encounters (eg; Deadly Dragons, Enhanced High lvl Gameplay. etc). Both sides get bonuses, and it appears to work fairly well.

[Elhanan]

@ Deadly Dragons - I use the Loremonger version myself, but should be viable with either install. Recommend leaving Assault alone until you have it working as you desire with other setttings. Note that SKSE and SkyUI are prereqs for the latest versions, and something like BOSS is suggested.

Extremely Vanilla Destruction Revamp also aids both sides; makes casters a bit more powerful and equal to archers and weapon specialists. This one is on Steam.

[Yrkoon]

krul2k wrote...

ok ok need to ask, are archers OP?

Well, they *become* overpowered, once you've taken all the perks, improved your weapon to Legendary+,  and then enchanted it with "press A to win" enchantments.  At that point, everything dies before it can get to you.  Add stealth to the mix and everything dies before   even being aware of your presense.  (adept difficulty, btw)

But   Archery is actually fairly weak early on.  In the early to mid game you will often find yourself starting fights with archery and then falling back on your melee weapons since they seem more effective at damage dealing and staggering  (power attacks) when  a combat encounter becomes serious.


  Related Side note:  has anyone tried using Reikling spears as ammunition for their bows?  They're broken.  They have no range.    You aim and draw your bowstring as usual then release and they fly about 10 feet then go *thump* and land on the ground.

[Joy Divison]

krul2k wrote...

ok ok need to ask, are archers OP? this is my first real play through the other just being a learn the basics rush job, im level err 36 now an im basically trolling everything, i upped the difficulty to expert which i was going to eventually anyhow then make my way to master, but as things stand the now i think i might have to just put on master straight away to even get a hint of challenge with archer as on expert im still trolling through everything.

I did roll a mage an noticed straight away it was harder but didnt enjoy the mage class type at all, im feeling i may need to download mods to actually gimp my archer to make things less easy

Everything in Skyrim is as OP as you make it via crafting/perks/alchemy/arguable game-engine exploits.  Though Destruction less so  and dual wielding more so than others.

Modifié par Joy Divison, 20 février 2013 - 10:06 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Anyone ever read Skyrim Confessions?

It is a real blast hearing some of them:

[Addai]

Heh, that's actually a decent one. Most of the fan tumblrs make my head hurt.

[Halfdan The Menace]

[quote]Addao67 wrote...
[quote]Ballistic Rebel wrote...

Remember, not everyone in Tamriel can cast magic. There are carts and ships in Skyrim to transport people and the slit striders in Morrowind. Those poor sods need steam-powered vehicles.[/quote]

Theoretically everyone can.  It's not like in Dragon Age where only certain people are mages and others not.  It's a question of training.

I don't want steampunk Tamriel, in the conventional sense.  It can be WeirdTamriel, but not conventional steampunk.[/quote]
[/quote]
Listen to the Arch-Mage at the College. Again, not everyone have the "gifted" ability to learn magic. And, with Destruction magic around, you wouldn't necessarily need gunpowder to make guns. That very same mages could use soul gems to produce an explosion to propel bits of metal in a fashion anyone could use. How did they create soul gems anyway? from crystals?

Skyrim seems more "renaissance" than "medieval". A little steampunk wouldn't ruin the game.

Modifié par Ballistic Rebel, 20 février 2013 - 10:38 .

[Halfdan The Menace]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Deviant Ingredient wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Deviant Ingredient wrote...

@Splinter: I've read all the books I could find on them but none really talk about what Gods they worship, customs, etc..

So far it looks to be a potential mix like Dibella and maybe Hercine but it's hard to say.

You mean the Forsworn?  They defile Dibella statues.  Speculation I've seen is that one of them is Molag Bal, hence his abode being in Markarth.  But there are other gods that aren't in the imperial pantheon or daedric princes, lesser gods like Ebonheart and Sai.  So it could be one that we haven't heard of.

Well maybe not worship Dibella but they do have a connection to it some how. They could view her in a different manner than what we're shown. We still don't know what they were planning to do with the Sibyl. Mind you this is all speculation on my part.

I truly don't know what they worship though, I do know that some Reachmen who aren't Forsworn but live in Markarth say that they Forsworn worship Daedra. I believe Yngvar the Singer also mentions that. Their magic and their rituals are a little crazy to be anything but Daedra. Then again the Bosmer worship Y'ffre and they have their Wild Hunt thing. 

The Forsworn are a bunch of messed-up douches. They're a group of ritual-sacrificing hagraven-worshipping rip-your-heart-out-and-replace-it-with-a-plant lunatics, they're just the lunatics who claim to be the avengers of the Bretons.

Have you seen those hagravens doing the briarheart ritual? Weird sh*t right there.

[Captain Crash]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Anyone ever read Skyrim Confessions?

It is a real blast hearing some of them:

Thats awesome!   I would pay for a voiced DLC of that!  haha

[Addai]

Ballistic Rebel wrote...
Listen to the Arch-Mage at the College. Again, not everyone have the "gifted" ability to learn magic. And, with Destruction magic around, you wouldn't necessarily need gunpowder to make guns. That very same mages could use soul gems to produce an explosion to propel bits of metal in a fashion anyone could use. How did they create soul gems anyway? from crystals?

Skyrim seems more "renaissance" than "medieval". A little steampunk wouldn't ruin the game.

What does the Archmage say?

ES already has a little steampunk, the Dwemer.   I don't want to see guns and cars in Tamriel.

Modifié par Addai67, 20 février 2013 - 11:05 .

[alschemid]

krul2k wrote...

ok ok need to ask, are archers OP?

I have found the combat pretty boring with an archer after level 40+ on Adept. So I have been playing on Master and have been trying some mods to make combat more challenging like Deadly Combat, Duel - Combat Realism, Locational Damage, ASIS, Deadly Dragons and some overhauls like ACE - Combat Skills, Skyrim Redone and Requiem. Be careful though, some of them require the Brawl Bugs Patch installed to not break the brawl quests.

Modifié par alschemid, 20 février 2013 - 11:11 .

[Splinter Cell 108]

Ballistic Rebel wrote...


The Forsworn are a bunch of messed-up douches. They're a group of ritual-sacrificing hagraven-worshipping rip-your-heart-out-and-replace-it-with-a-plant lunatics, they're just the lunatics who claim to be the avengers of the Bretons.

Have you seen those hagravens doing the briarheart ritual? Weird sh*t right there.

I know they are, that's why I always kill as many as I can when I go to the Reach, a lot of them got their throats ripped by my Vampire lord. Nobody likes the Forsworn, not even the Bretons. 

Addai67 wrote...ES already has a little steampunk, the Dwemer.   I don't want to see guns and cars in Tamriel.

I know I shouldn't complain about it because I don't have to download them, but there are mods that add guns and/or dwemer "machineguns" to Skyrim, which I find utterly ridiculous. Why would anyone put guns in skyrim?

Modifié par Splinter Cell 108, 21 février 2013 - 01:16 .

[LobselVith8]

Ballistic Rebel wrote...

Listen to the Arch-Mage at the College. Again, not everyone have the "gifted" ability to learn magic.

Anyone can theoretically learn magic because of how Magnus departed Mundus. While some may not have the intellect or the fortitude to pull it off, anyone can hypothetically become a mage.

[Addai]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I know I shouldn't complain about it because I don't have to download them, but there are mods that add guns and/or dwemer "machineguns" to Skyrim, which I find utterly ridiculous. Why would anyone put guns in skyrim?

I dunno, but every once in a while someone brings it up on the BGS forum, before getting howled down by the natives.

The idea of a linear progression of time and technology, aside from being boring, just does not fit in the Nirn universe at all.  Time folds in on itself, it repeats itself in cycles, all the falsehoods are true, etc.  Why in a world like that would you limit yourself to pea shooters?  Hence why for some reason I love MK's weird sci fi mixing- spaceships and KINMUNE which is basically a rogue AI in Saarthal that turned sentient and the like- but my mind rebels at the idea of some orc running around with a musket.

Modifié par Addai67, 21 février 2013 - 01:39 .

[Elhanan]

Sweet! Found my fave new DLC NPC: Neloth the Mage, and he sounds much like Dwight Shultz as the VO (ie; Bodahn and merchants from DAO., Howling Mad Murdoch, Corp Brocolli from TNG, etc). Some really humorous lines; had me LOL when Neloth sent me for tea!

Modifié par Elhanan, 21 février 2013 - 02:13 .

[xiiFezz]

When I first saw Dwight Shultz I read it as Dwight Schrute from The Office but yeah, Neloth is pretty funny.

[Addai]

That is Dwight Schultz. Funny to have Howling Mad Murdoch as a centuries old Dunmer wizard.

He also voiced Navigator Pressley in Mass Effect.

Modifié par Addai67, 21 février 2013 - 05:18 .

[Gotholhorakh]

Joy Divison wrote...

krul2k wrote...

ok ok need to ask, are archers OP? this is my first real play through the other just being a learn the basics rush job, im level err 36 now an im basically trolling everything, i upped the difficulty to expert which i was going to eventually anyhow then make my way to master, but as things stand the now i think i might have to just put on master straight away to even get a hint of challenge with archer as on expert im still trolling through everything.

I did roll a mage an noticed straight away it was harder but didnt enjoy the mage class type at all, im feeling i may need to download mods to actually gimp my archer to make things less easy

Everything in Skyrim is as OP as you make it via crafting/perks/alchemy/arguable game-engine exploits.  Though Destruction less so  and dual wielding more so than others.

Yeah, you get to the point with dual wield where Masser and Secunda could drop out of the sky and roll towards you and you could take a relaxed sip of your tea, then shrug them off like mudcrabs.

Not a bad thing though - encourages you to look for other ways of playing.

After crossbow hunting for a while, I have opted for a hammer - the thinking Nord's weapon, and have developed a number of subtle and intricate strategies and gambits.

For Dragons, run at them roaring and hit them with a massive hammer.
For things that fus-ro-dah, run at them roaring repeatedly until I reach them without a knockdown, then hit them with a massive hammer.
For sneak attacks, crouch for a bit, then run at them roaring and hit them with a massive hammer.
Of course, sometimes I prefer the cerebral approach - so I run at them roaring and hit them with a massive hammer in the head.

My beloved other half was watching me play Skyrim the other day and accused me of overthinking the experience.

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 21 février 2013 - 09:42 .

[Jonathan28]

Damn, I haven't played Skyrim in months. I need to get back to my Breton Arch-Mage and continue the systematic genocide of the Forsworn. They give Bretons a really bad name, though some of the ladies are nice to look at, before they dual-wield you to death of course. ^^

[blaidfiste]

Elhanan wrote...

Sweet! Found my fave new DLC NPC: Neloth the Mage, and he sounds much like Dwight Shultz as the VO (ie; Bodahn and merchants from DAO., Howling Mad Murdoch, Corp Brocolli from TNG, etc). Some really humorous lines; had me LOL when Neloth sent me for tea!

Best character in the game and he has quite a bit of quests that send you to the mainland.

[Yrkoon]

FUS....  Ro DAH!

Modifié par Yrkoon, 21 février 2013 - 03:38 .