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[Iosev]

In regards to the Thalmor unable to beat the Redguards, I think that it is a combination of reduced Aldmeri Dominion military strength after the Great War, as well as the Thalmor underestimating the military prowess of the Redguard people, ready and motivated to fight for their homeland.

If I recall correctly, the Thalmor easily captured Hammerfell during the Great War, which may have been due to a lack of unity between the Forebears and Crowns, which in turn prevented the Redguards from utilizing their full military strength. After the Great War, I'm guessing that the Thalmor believed that they could still take control of Hammerfell despite the losses they incurred from the war, since they were able to take the land so easily before. However, I think I've read that the Forebears and Crowns reconciliated during the Great War, thus leading them to have a more unified guerilla force after the war.  After five years with no success, I think the Thalmor decided to leave the conflict as a stalemate.

I still think that the Dominion wants Hammerfell as a strategic position for their next invasion. I wouldn't be surprised if the Thalmor actually instigated the Skyrim Civil War, in order to keep the Imperials and Nords busy while they return to Hammerfell in full force.

Modifié par arcelonious, 09 mars 2013 - 09:02 .

[Halfdan The Menace]

arcelonious wrote...

In regards to the Thalmor unable to beat the Redguards, I think that it is a combination of reduced Aldmeri Dominion military strength after the Great War, as well as the Thalmor underestimating the military prowess of the Redguard people, ready and motivated to fight for their homeland.

If I recall correctly, the Thalmor easily captured Hammerfell during the Great War, which may have been due to a lack of unity between the Forebears and Crowns, which in turn prevented the Redguards from utilizing their full military strength. After the Great War, I'm guessing that the Thalmor believed that they could still take control of Hammerfell despite the losses they incurred from the war, since they were able to take the land so easily before. However, I think I've read that the Forebears and Crowns reconciliated during the Great War, thus leading them to have a more unified guerilla force after the war.  After five years with no success, I think the Thalmor decided to leave the conflict as a stalemate.

I still think that the Dominion wants Hammerfell as a strategic position for their next invasion. I wouldn't be surprised if the Thalmor actually instigated the Skyrim Civil War, in order to keep the Imperials and Nords busy while they return to Hammerfell in full force.

They're like N@zi Germany trying to take over Britain. But I doubt the Thalmor wanted it, as it really didn't work out very well for them either. Though it will help them in the end, as they can just leave Hammerfell alone while they easily sweep aside the Empire and any opposing forces. Those damn elves and their evil plots!

[Yrkoon]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

What booze you drink in game probably has more influence then what side you pick.

Funny you should mention that.  Ok, we all know about the Honningbrew  mead vs. Black-Briar mead  thing.  No need to revisit that one.

But  what if my character is an exclusive Alto Wine drinker?  Which side of the war would that put him on?

Modifié par Yrkoon, 09 mars 2013 - 09:40 .

[Iosev]

Ballistic Rebel wrote...

They're like N@zi Germany trying to take over Britain. But I doubt the Thalmor wanted it, as it really didn't work out very well for them either. Though it will help them in the end, as they can just leave Hammerfell alone while they easily sweep aside the Empire and any opposing forces. Those damn elves and their evil plots!

I think that the Dominion wants Hammefell so that they can attack Cyrodiil on two fronts (Northwest from Hammerfell, and South from Valenwood and Elsweyr).  However, instead of invading Hammerfell and Cyrodiil at the same time like they did during the Great War, I'm guessing that the Dominion wants to take Hammerfell first, and then begin their invasion into Cyrodiil when their forces in Hammerfell have regrouped and are ready to fight again.

The wild card in this theoretical scenario is if Skyrim and a powerful Dragonborn somehow intervene...

Modifié par arcelonious, 09 mars 2013 - 09:48 .

[Addai]

Note that Tullius also cannot get a reply from High Rock. They aren't helping the empire, either. I'd rather be on my own than under the boot of the empire which is only looking out for Cyrodiil at the expense of everyone else.

[Splinter Cell 108]

Addai67 wrote...

Note that Tullius also cannot get a reply from High Rock. They aren't helping the empire, either. I'd rather be on my own than under the boot of the empire which is only looking out for Cyrodiil at the expense of everyone else.

Is there any dialogue for that? I'd very much like to hear it, never even knew that Tullius tried to contact the Bretons. I wonder what is happening in High Rock throughout this whole mess, it seems like it hasn't been affected as much by everything that is going on. 

[blaidfiste]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Note that Tullius also cannot get a reply from High Rock. They aren't helping the empire, either. I'd rather be on my own than under the boot of the empire which is only looking out for Cyrodiil at the expense of everyone else.

Is there any dialogue for that? I'd very much like to hear it, never even knew that Tullius tried to contact the Bretons. I wonder what is happening in High Rock throughout this whole mess, it seems like it hasn't been affected as much by everything that is going on. 

According to Hadvar, a lot of court intrigue.

[LTD]

Mehh. RL took me away from Skyrim biz for 2 weeks. Now when I try to get back into it, I'm all "hmmm why would I want to play this game?" Takes some adjusting to get back in uhh immersion. Mayhaps a quality Nexus mod that makes bears anatomically accurate would cheer me up

Ultimately I ruined it all by turning to a vamp:l The lord form sucks.

[Addai]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Note that Tullius also cannot get a reply from High Rock. They aren't helping the empire, either. I'd rather be on my own than under the boot of the empire which is only looking out for Cyrodiil at the expense of everyone else.

Is there any dialogue for that? I'd very much like to hear it, never even knew that Tullius tried to contact the Bretons. I wonder what is happening in High Rock throughout this whole mess, it seems like it hasn't been affected as much by everything that is going on. 

Yep it's basically the same as the Galmar- Ulfric dialogue.

The only thing I know of is that the Altmer refugee community in Balfiera was decimated in an attack called the Night of Green Fire, and there was a series of murders of Direnni who were political opponents or mixed race.

Modifié par Addai67, 10 mars 2013 - 09:08 .

[Elhanan]

LTD wrote...

Mehh. RL took me away from Skyrim biz for 2 weeks. Now when I try to get back into it, I'm all "hmmm why would I want to play this game?" Takes some adjusting to get back in uhh immersion. Mayhaps a quality Nexus mod that makes bears anatomically accurate would cheer me up

Ultimately I ruined it all by turning to a vamp:l The lord form sucks. 

In one playthrough after using the form to destroy nearly all of the mudcrabs around Whiterun and maxing the perks, I rarely ever touched it again. Having the inate powers and problems of a Vampire was fine with me for that DB; the one that eventually played the new DLC.

But it is not all bad; Vampiric Grip is wondermous! Tis good to be the King; PULL! *Fires*

[Yrkoon]

Noticed the first undocumented change made by patch 1.9.... Enchanting is now much harder to advance.

Used to be that by just disenchanting stuff you could get to ~ 55-60 once you've learned the bulk of the enchantments. Now you'll be hard pressed to reach 40

[Joy Divison]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

What do the Thalmor gain by wasting more men in Hammerfell when the Redguard already renounced the Empire, the Empire just lost one of its most valuable assets, the Thalmor accomplished what they wanted, they can take care of Hammerfell later.

They were there wasting more men fighting for five years. Obviously something. You yourself claimed they were trying to their damndest to do something when you said:

The Thalmor however, were able to keep fighting for 5 more years in
foreign land, does that not prove to you that they could have kept on
fighting?

If it proves they can fight, it also proves they could only do so ineffectively.

. Once again if you believe that book lays things out clearly, then its claim that the Empire could not fight any longer must have been true.

No, I believe the book lays things out from an Imperial, specifically Cyrodiil, perspective. It's legions are less than half strength...meanwhile the Thalmor's armies were destroyed.  With the Thalmor on multiple fronts, having to reconstitute its armies, and the Empire on its home base, the Empire's position is not so desperate.  For some reason, you think an invasion of Alinor is necessary..it's not.  At least not for this war as the Empire's goal is status quo ante bellum.  It needs to do two things: repell invading Thalmor armies (which it did at Red Ring) and make the cost of future invasion prohibitive (which the Redguards succeeded on their own).

Skyrim will be on its own, with its own battered military and the Thalmor will most likely get something out of it

Like what?  Perhaps enforcing their policies over its citizens with a brutal secret police free to roam the province as they please?  Oh wait...




Here's the bottom line.  Any ruler, whether it be an Emperor or some insignificant prince of some tiny municipality, who willingly allows a hostile secret police carte blanche to abduct its own citizens without any indepedent judicial oversight is no longer a legitimate sovereign by any definition of the term.

Modifié par Joy Divison, 10 mars 2013 - 06:28 .

[Yrkoon]

They're not even a secret police. They do everything openly - Their carte blanche isn't by force or by covert action, but by official agreement made via public ceremony. They have their own building within Solitude's walls, as well as a giant Embassy just outside of it; They patrol the hallways of the Jarl's Court in Markarth; They have a fortress base at Northwatch Keep. They freely police the roads and at least 1 Talos shrine  in the countryside and attacking them nets you a bountry in whatever Hold those roads run through. They have their own Uniforms. Their presense at the Winterhold college is not via infiltration, but again, by invite.

Hell, they're just as Not-secret as the actual Skyrim "police force".

Modifié par Yrkoon, 10 mars 2013 - 09:56 .

[Captain Crash]

Sometimes I wonder if the Thalmor have actually already invaded Skyrim. We just have admitted it yet...

[Elhanan]

Caution:

SkyUI is appearing as an Updated Version Available file on the Nexus Mod Manager, but no file at all is currently appearing on Nexus. Do not delete your current mod, as many other mods depend on it as a master. If you have deleted it, I was able to get a temp mod from Steam until the Nexus one reappears; maybe this will work as a fix.

P.S. An updated file is now available. However, it does require an updated version of SKSE, so be prepared to do this first.

Modifié par Elhanan, 10 mars 2013 - 01:48 .

[IllusiveManJr]

Sorry to be a bother again, but a friend suggested I try an Argonian mage as it would be something different. I have a High Elf Conjurer at level 37 and found it enjoyable. Would an Argonian be possible? His bonuses don't seem like much, but Histskin sounds awesome.

[Elhanan]

IllusiveManJr wrote...

Sorry to be a bother again, but a friend suggested I try an Argonian mage as it would be something different. I have a High Elf Conjurer at level 37 and found it enjoyable. Would an Argonian be possible? His bonuses don't seem like much, but Histskin sounds awesome.

For me, the best part of an Argonian was using the various waterways as roads and paths to desired locations. And while each race may start with different bonuses, they all end up in the same place, so this is entirely workable. Enjoy!

[IUsedToDieAtWaveOne]

I've reinstalled Skyrim three times and all the mods that I used because I'd get CTD's almost every time I played. And only now I figured out it was because ENB's don't like it when you run MSI Afterburner while playing.


F*ck this game!

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I think that the Empire is well and truly doomed to be honest.

They lost Hammerfall, they are losing Skyrim, and are basically on their last legs.
However I think if you join them you get a bigger hope of preventing their imminent doom.

Think about it:
As a Dragonborn you are giving them legitimacy.
You keep another province from leaving
You can rebuild the blades
Also you can give the Thalmor quite a bloody nose and they cant do anything about it.

Also the only reason I am doing it this time, is that my Breton wants to sink the Thieves Guild back into Imperial society.

Any army that has the Dovahkiin is going to win.

Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 10 mars 2013 - 03:50 .

[Splinter Cell 108]

Elhanan wrote...

IllusiveManJr wrote...

Sorry to be a bother again, but a friend suggested I try an Argonian mage as it would be something different. I have a High Elf Conjurer at level 37 and found it enjoyable. Would an Argonian be possible? His bonuses don't seem like much, but Histskin sounds awesome.

For me, the best part of an Argonian was using the various waterways as roads and paths to desired locations. And while each race may start with different bonuses, they all end up in the same place, so this is entirely workable. Enjoy!

Yeah it's a good way to get away from a fight you can't win too, just jump in to the water and swim until you get away. However, that's not always possible for me, since I use frostfall, don't want to end up frozen. 

[Elhanan]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Yeah it's a good way to get away from a fight you can't win too, just jump in to the water and swim until you get away. However, that's not always possible for me, since I use frostfall, don't want to end up frozen. 

Perhaps Argonian Vampires could do so....

[Splinter Cell 108]

Elhanan wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Yeah it's a good way to get away from a fight you can't win too, just jump in to the water and swim until you get away. However, that's not always possible for me, since I use frostfall, don't want to end up frozen. 

Perhaps Argonian Vampires could do so....

Yeah, but there's a trade off, the sun becomes the new problem. Everything has its weaknesses I guess. 

[Elhanan]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Elhanan wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Yeah it's a good way to get away from a fight you can't win too, just jump in to the water and swim until you get away. However, that's not always possible for me, since I use frostfall, don't want to end up frozen. 

Perhaps Argonian Vampires could do so....

Yeah, but there's a trade off, the sun becomes the new problem. Everything has its weaknesses I guess. 

While true, this one does have an IG solution.

[Addai]

Di-Datau wrote...

I've reinstalled Skyrim three times and all the mods that I used because I'd get CTD's almost every time I played. And only now I figured out it was because ENB's don't like it when you run MSI Afterburner while playing.


F*ck this game!

It's the game's fault because your mods aren't compatible with your souped up overclocking.  Mm hmm.