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[Addai]

Heh, my Dunmer's rp background is that he's hunting artifacts for Telvanni remnants in Skyrim. Trouble is, he's finding that the Telvanni interests have rubbed off on him and he wants to keep them for himself. Plus I figure they don't treat him very well and try to pay him peanuts. Just look at Neloth's pension program.

[Joy Divison]

Anyone ever check out Maven's basement? Anyone specific in the game that is in reference to?

[LobselVith8]

Addai67 wrote...

Heh, my Dunmer's rp background is that he's hunting artifacts for Telvanni remnants in Skyrim. Trouble is, he's finding that the Telvanni interests have rubbed off on him and he wants to keep them for himself. Plus I figure they don't treat him very well and try to pay him peanuts. Just look at Neloth's pension program.

That's a really cool backstory. I envision mine as a member of Clan Uvirith; perhaps one or two centuries old. Being Telvanni is pretty cutthroat. Their introduction to the House is: "We trust all members of House Telvanni to use their own judgement. If you steal from another Telvanni, but still live, then clearly you deserve whatever you stole. Murdering your opponents by magic or treachery is the traditional way of settling disputes. If you win, then clearly your argument has more merit. You may be expelled as in any other Great House, but most Telvanni will not care or even know about it."

Your character has the right idea. Might as well accumulate power and allies in Skyrim.  Meeting Neloth would probably motivate my character to build his own mushroom tower in Skyrim and relocate a few Silt Striders to the area.

About his pension plan, I suspect Talvas Fathryon doesn't have much a future if he remains in Tel Mithryn, if we go by Neloth's track record with apprentices. He is funny, though. I loved his sarcastic comments to the Dragonborn.

[happy_daiz]

Addai67 wrote...

Heh, my Dunmer's rp background...

Your Dunmer...

Sorry, that's pretty much all I read. Between him and Teldryn...

[Addai]

Hehe, I'm on to other things atm so the boys actually haven't been out to play much.

Once you start realizing what it means to be dragonborn, the Telvanni look less impressive. At least Neloth is honest and told him that he didn't want to teach him enchanting in case he got better than he is. I love that nutty wizard.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Seriously, why does everybody act like playing as a Nord in Skyrim is bad all of a sudden? It was totally cool in Morrowind and Oblivion, but not in Skyrim.

Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 02 avril 2013 - 09:33 .

[happy_daiz]

^ Who is "everybody"?

After all, Skyrim is for the nerds! I mean Nords! Heh.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 02 avril 2013 - 09:40 .

[EpicBoot2daFace]

happy_daiz wrote...

^ Who is "everybody"?

After all, Skyrim is for the nerds! I mean Nords! Heh.

Everyone on the internets it seems. It's sort of like if you play as a Human Noble in Origins. People give you **** for it.

[Endurium]

My next character will be a nord because they're taller and it'll be easier to loot the tops of bookcases

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Endurium wrote...

My next character will be a nord because they're taller and it'll be easier to loot the tops of bookcases

You should play as an Altmer.

[Halfdan The Menace]

Joy Divison wrote...

Anyone ever check out Maven's basement? Anyone specific in the game that is in reference to?

Yeah, the skeleton. I think her Black Sacrament failed. Maybe Hamelyn was the target?

[Yrkoon]

Khajiit like to sneak.

[LobselVith8]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...

^ Who is "everybody"?

After all, Skyrim is for the nerds! I mean Nords! Heh.

Everyone on the internets it seems. It's sort of like if you play as a Human Noble in Origins. People give you **** for it.

Usually stumble upon anti-Ulfric or anti-Stormcloak sentiment, rather than a general anti-Nord vibe. Surprising that some would condemn all Nords, though. There's a lot of diversity in personalities - just look at the differences between Ulfric and Galmar, after all.

I think the Human Noble Origin criticism has more to do with what some fans said - apparently, one of the developers said the Human Origin was supposed to be a look at the other side of racism, as opposed to the City Elf Origin. It's a little more strange for the reception to Skyrim, where some fans simply base their entire viewpoint on that single scene you witness when you enter Windhelm.

[Druss99]

I haven't seen any hate for playing as a Nord. I've been one from the start. No one will ever suspect me of being a Nightingale with my gruff Nordic ways.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Question for you all: How do you view the Dragonborn? Is he/she destined to slay dragons or to work with them? I'm not far into the Dragonborn questline, but it seems like Miraak became a slayer of dragons instead of working with them like I did with Paarthurnax. Also, do you believe he or she is the last Dragonborn?

[Splinter Cell 108]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Question for you all: How do you view the Dragonborn? Is he/she destined to slay dragons or to work with them? I'm not far into the Dragonborn questline, but it seems like Miraak became a slayer of dragons instead of working with them like I did with Paarthurnax. Also, do you believe he or she is the last Dragonborn?

I don't know what the Dragonborn should be viewed as. I guess he/she can be viewed as snything, a real bastard or a hero, depending on what you do or who associate yourself with. Personally my Dragonborns try to never associate themselves with scumbags like the Dark Brotherhood, the Thieves Guild or any of the "evil" daedra. 

As for him/her being the last Dragonborn, I doubt it, I think that is just a saying, especially if the dragonborn can be of any race or gender, I'm sure there's bound to be others which haven't been revealed or will eventually appear later. 

[Addai]

LobselVith8 wrote...

I think the Human Noble Origin criticism has more to do with what some fans said - apparently, one of the developers said the Human Origin was supposed to be a look at the other side of racism, as opposed to the City Elf Origin. It's a little more strange for the reception to Skyrim, where some fans simply base their entire viewpoint on that single scene you witness when you enter Windhelm.

Tell me about it.  I think it's the lack of a disposition system.  Rolf and Angenor being unfriendly to an elf seems horrible, but that's only because you don't realize that everyone in Tamriel hates you unless you do something for them.  The scowls in Oblivion are refreshing.

Modifié par Addai67, 03 avril 2013 - 01:04 .

[Dutchess]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Question for you all: How do you view the Dragonborn? Is he/she destined to slay dragons or to work with them? I'm not far into the Dragonborn questline, but it seems like Miraak became a slayer of dragons instead of working with them like I did with Paarthurnax. Also, do you believe he or she is the last Dragonborn?

Considering the Dragonborn is the only person who can truly kill a dragon, I'd say that you are - to a certain degree - meant to be a dragonslayer. At least when it comes to hostile dragons who attack villages (and you), which you encounter even after siding with Paarthurnax. That said, that doesn't mean that the Dragonborn is meant to exterminate dragons completely. I don't consider siding with Paarthurnax as going against your own destiny or something like that. I think the Dragonborn is simply meant to bring balance. Nothing in nature is meant to be invincible, so even dragons get to have their weakness, even if it can be a temporary one.

[Captain Crash]

renjility wrote...

Considering the Dragonborn is the only person who can truly kill a dragon, I'd say that you are - to a certain degree - meant to be a dragonslayer. [snip]

I actually find this a very interesting aspect about Elder Scroll games.  Despite being open world with a variety of different paths and choices the game always imposes a destiny on you.  Its something no matter what you do you can't escape from.   Sure you can attempt to play a character that doesnt get involved.  But along comes the next game and your character will have done those set destiny aspects whether you played them out or not.

Now I understand that games need progression.   Shepard in Mass Effect wasn't going to sit around and drink coffee and forfeit games two and three.  Still sometimes games can lay it on to thick and give you outcome you had no desire to achieve.

[blaidfiste]

Stormcloaks celebrate Skyrim's independence.

[Milan92]

Captain Crash wrote...

renjility wrote...

Considering the Dragonborn is the only person who can truly kill a dragon, I'd say that you are - to a certain degree - meant to be a dragonslayer. [snip]

I actually find this a very interesting aspect about Elder Scroll games.  Despite being open world with a variety of different paths and choices the game always imposes a destiny on you.  Its something no matter what you do you can't escape from.   Sure you can attempt to play a character that doesnt get involved.  But along comes the next game and your character will have done those set destiny aspects whether you played them out or not.

Now I understand that games need progression.   Shepard in Mass Effect wasn't going to sit around and drink coffee and forfeit games two and three.  Still sometimes games can lay it on to thick and give you outcome you had no desire to achieve.

Not completely. The Greybeards tell you that what you do with your power is up to you. Will you be remembered as a hero? Or will you remain forgotten or blablabla.

So while it was your destiny to slay Alduin, other then that its up to the Dragonborn (player) themselfs what they do with their future. 

Modifié par Milan92, 03 avril 2013 - 08:31 .

[Captain Crash]

Oh yeah I agree and thats really my point. Like in Oblivion you could be a washed out bum living by the sea if you so choose. But ultimately you would have to have to fulfill your destiny. Just like in Skyrim the Dragonborn can be anything you want them to be but they will always fulfill their destiny.

Like I said, I get that you are who you are. But sometimes the role you play is a bit to much for a character you wish to roleplay.   I suppose its a nessecary evil for game and story progresssion.

Modifié par Captain Crash, 03 avril 2013 - 08:46 .

[Endurium]

That's because the game is written so that only our character has the power to do anything. None of the NPCs can do it in our stead. Imagine if NPCs could act: just Wait/Sleep for a month, then go exploring to find out who won the civil war, and who slayed Alduin.

[Deviant Ingredient]

I always figured the DB was the other side to Alduin, since by defeating him you actually set him back on his intended path thus closer to the end of the world. That's how I play it anyway as far as destiny goes. Kind of like the mortalized version of Akatosh and Lorkhan, two sides of the same coin and all that.

[Luxorek]

Endurium wrote...
That's because the game is written so that only our character has the power to do anything.

All that power and in the end the only people who will recognize your deeds are the guards, the bloody guards <_<