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[Haplose]

Lazengan wrote...

HOW CAN YOU ENJOY THE SCENERY WITHOUT ENB?!!

Well, for once you have a point.

The texture packs are... nice. Like... kinda neat to have.

But it's the ENB which really makes the difference! Like your playing an entirely different, far more immersive and impressive game...

[Dutchess]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Talking about eye candy. I've recently added some mods that improve the scenery. A richer landscape, better snow and upgraded the towns a bit. I wish there was one which also improved the ground and road textures a bit. Did anyone come across a good one? I prefer a workshop version.

I think you're better off looking at the nexus for most mods. Texture mods are easy to install and can also be deleted without danger. You can download the landscape file of this one:
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/607/?
Or go for this one: http://skyrim.nexusm...com/mods/2146/?


You may also want to look at the STEP guide (Skyrim Total Enhancement Project) for good recommendations of mods that improve the look of vanilla Skyrim. You obviously don't need to download every file they list. You can just browse through them and have a look at what seems interesting. 

And since we're showing off shiny screenshots:

Modifié par renjility, 09 mai 2013 - 09:10 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

Thanks for the recommendations!

I know Nexus. I even have a mod up there for Oblivion. These days I am lazy and don't want to hunt for the latest version. The workshop provides me that luxury.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 09 mai 2013 - 09:11 .

[Dutchess]

I think that's less of a problem with HD textures, though. If your roads and terrain are high quality, you're done.

[blaidfiste]

renjility wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Talking about eye candy. I've recently added some mods that improve the scenery. A richer landscape, better snow and upgraded the towns a bit. I wish there was one which also improved the ground and road textures a bit. Did anyone come across a good one? I prefer a workshop version.

I think you're better off looking at the nexus for most mods. Texture mods are easy to install and can also be deleted without danger. You can download the landscape file of this one:
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/607/?
Or go for this one: http://skyrim.nexusm...com/mods/2146/?


You may also want to look at the STEP guide (Skyrim Total Enhancement Project) for good recommendations of mods that improve the look of vanilla Skyrim. You obviously don't need to download every file they list. You can just browse through them and have a look at what seems interesting. 

And since we're showing off shiny screenshots:

That's a nice one.  Any Auriel's bow scenery?

[blaidfiste]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Thanks for the recommendations!

I know Nexus. I even have a mod up there for Oblivion. These days I am lazy and don't want to hunt for the latest version. The workshop provides me that luxury.

Have you tried the new nexus mod manager?  It lets you know when your mod has a new version.

[AngryFrozenWater]

blaidfiste wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Thanks for the recommendations!

I know Nexus. I even have a mod up there for Oblivion. These days I am lazy and don't want to hunt for the latest version. The workshop provides me that luxury.

Have you tried the new nexus mod manager?  It lets you know when your mod has a new version.

Ghehe. Did I mention I was lazy? I subscribe to a mod, it gets installed, and then I can forget about it. I like the integration into the game itself and Steam (which runs anyway). In the background Steam does not only update my games, it now also updates my Skyrim mods. That's the luxury I like.

[Barbarossa2010]

That's how the Skyrim Mod Manager works now. They've finally learned their lesson since the Workshop has become more popular. It's as easy as the Workshop to use now. I do run both though.

[Endurium]

I use an older version of the FX injector which I've tweaked along with most lightspace settings and Climates of Tamriel to get a mostly photo-realistic view going on. I did look at ENB but all the screenshots were like drug-induced rainbows and blur, which I'm not too fond of.

Have learned to be careful which mods I use, and to make sure they play nice by checking them with TESVedit. Makes for a very stable game.

[AngryFrozenWater]

Barbarossa2010 wrote...

That's how the Skyrim Mod Manager works now. They've finally learned their lesson since the Workshop has become more popular. It's as easy as the Workshop to use now. I do run both though.

Yeah. But it requires yet more software for functionality that I already have installed. In fact I didn't even install it. It is part of the game and Steam.

[Lazengan]

nexus > workshop

[AngryFrozenWater]

Lazengan wrote...

nexus > workshop

And most likely more hardcore.

[legion999]

happy_daiz wrote...

legion999 wrote...
PS Is GreenGoron back? I'm sure I saw him post several pages back.

Yep, he's back!  And he was sorely missed! Well, at least by me.

legion999 wrote...

Where are all these Auroras? I don't remember any of them.

They seem random. You could stand out by the stables at Whiterun at night, and watch the sky for a while, and eventually, there would be an aurora borealis. I've seen many right outside Markarth. I always liked standing right in front of the door of Vlindrel Hall, watching them, as it was a great view.
I think it needs to be a clear sky, though - not cloudy.

Horah then. 

Huh, I can't believe I didn't see any of these. Spent too much time stabbing people I guess. Oh well.

[Allan Schumacher]

Lazengan wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Lazengan wrote...

I'm not even antagonistic to people who enjoy Skyrim

I am antagonistic to people who don't understand basic game design yet claim so much 

Allan's point- Don't be antagonistic. Period.

K so we just mindlessly praise everything 

Where would any product be if the developpers were so full of themselves and thought that it was perfect? We wouldn't get proper updates and good sequels or future products

No, you don't need to mindlessly praise everything.  But I am at the point where I need to ask what your point is in being in this thread.

You tell me in your response to my post that you're not being antagonistic towards people that like Skyrim, but ARE being antagonistic towards people that don't understand basic game design (do you include yourself in this regard).

To make it clear:
Don't be antagonistic to anyone for any reason.


For intsance, as a developer, this is a pretty worthless post:

If you care about gameplay, don't download this

it just adds broken spells that offer no gameplay and break your game with overpowered magic

Okay, you feel the mod doesn't add to gameplay I guess.  The magic is overpowered.  Lets start at the beginning, because despite being incessantly critical towards other people, you're doing a lot of the things that should be causing you to antagonize yourself:

What context of gameplay are you discussing.  The term "gameplay" is exceptionally vague, and could even be argued as personalized.  I have seen arguments between whether or not our conversations, for example, constitute gameplay.  I mean, you're just "picking options" so it's not gameplay like combat, to some.

So, as someone that "likes gameplay," break this down to me and tell me what you mean by "likes gameplay" (because I can only guess what it is that you're talking about, despite your condescending attitude towards others for their apparent lack of game design knowledge).  From there, lets go into your critique.


As to this point:

I thought that Bethesda would learn from New Vegas and apply the lessons to Skyrim

It's important to note that New Vegas and Skyrim were made by completely different studios.  Sure, Bethesda could have learned from it (as they could have learned from any game - a fact that undermines your analogy), it seems painfully apparent to me that Obsidian and Bethesda seek to do different things with their games.  This is probably why Obsidian is my favourite developer, while Bethesda's releases are games I don't typically buy.

At some point, I have to ask you, what on Earth would motivate you to think that New Vegas would have any genuine impact on Bethesda, as opposed to Fallout 3 and Oblivion?  I mean, my motivation for not buying Skyrim is because how much I did not enjoy Oblivion.  Though I did enjoy Fallout 3, I didn't really think it'd carry over all that much into The Elder Scrolls, and so far it seems like my assessment is correct.  So why did I seem to succeed in terms of game assessment of Skyrim, whereas it seems you appear to have dropped the ball?  And further, how much of that is actually on your misplaced expectations for what Skyrim would deliver to you?

[Allan Schumacher]

Lazengan wrote...

pretty sure if I "politely" worded my posts I'd still be called a troll

I mean that's what I did a  year ago. I said skyrim was a bad game because of X reasons

"Go away troll"
"It's just YOUR OPINION"

No it's not an opinion, Skyrim is subjectively bad, and no amount of paid reviews can change the mind of an actual game designer

This is coming across as an explicit statement that you're willfully being antagonistic with the purpose of getting fans in a bother.  This is not acceptable.

It's unfortunate people told you to "go away troll" but at that point, then I'm the one telling them to watch what they say, rather than you.

No it's not an opinion, Skyrim is subjectively bad, and no amount of paid reviews can change the mind of an actual game designer

My assumption is that you meant to say "objectively" (a point which tends to ****** me off when used by people regardless).  In any case, it's nice that you feel that Skyrim is subjectively bad.  It appears there are some that feel Skyrim is subjectively good.

Further, people also state "it's your opinion" as another way of saying "I agree to disagree."  Continuing to press the point home is more along the lines of arguing to win (point 5) rather than seeking to discuss.  I'm not a fan of people coming in and badgering other people in an attempt to win.

An unfortunate reality: if people aren't interested in discussing your criticisms, you're just going to have to deal with that.  Dealing with it in an antagonistic way is not the correct way to do so.

To conclude:

I don't think any sane human being can play vanilla skyrim for more than 20 hours

This is actually your failing, not anyone else's.  I am skeptical that I would enjoy Skyrim for more than 20 hours.  I can certainly understand why other people can.  That you're not able to is, perhaps ironically, a failure to recognize how Skyrim's design may appeal to certain people.


EDIT:

I like how you guys circlejerk one another

And this one gets you a temp ban.

Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 09 mai 2013 - 11:03 .

[LPPrince]

Does Skyrim have a fireworks mod?

Cause that would be cool. For celebrating when the next Elder Scrolls comes out.

[Yrkoon]

Lazengan wrote...


I don't think any sane human being can play vanilla skyrim for more than 20 hours

Then call me happily insane.  The creation kit  didn't get released until the beginning of February 2012.  Of course me, and  millions of other people, had already put countless hundreds of hours into Skyrim by then.


Enough already.  You know full well that not only are you spouting an opinion here, but you're spouting a fringe minority opinion.  Forget about Skyrim's record-breaking sales,  Forget about its metacritic scores, and the multitudes of its  lavish critical acclaim from reviewers of all shapes and sizes all over the world.  Skyrim is been praised by veteran game developers, which is something you don't often see from  such a collossal, mainstream AAA title. Bethesda hit one out of the park.  And  Pros who have been making games for more than a decade recognize   that.  Go read up.  Read what J.E.  Sawyer says about Skyrim.  What   CDProjekt  devs have said about it, what  Ray Muzyka  has said about it.  Etc.   They ALL see its brilliance.  To the point where they have decided to alter their *own* games to encorporate  some things that Skyrim has done.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 10 mai 2013 - 12:36 .

[Barbarossa2010]

Well it is nice to be back in action again after having taken such a long hiatus. 

Here's something new to me. I got a shield kill cam. New? Or perhaps it's something that's been integrated with one-handed kill cams? I know with as many hours as I have in sword and boarding, that I would have triggered something like this ages ago. Just curious. Cool nonetheless.

[Splinter Cell 108]

^You're lucky, I'd like to get back to skyrim but college is getting in the way so I've only got time to play one game and right now I'm playing New Vegas. I've decided those two games are the only ones I'll play while I'm in college, don't really have time for anything else anyways.

[Barbarossa2010]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

^You're lucky, I'd like to get back to skyrim but college is getting in the way so I've only got time to play one game and right now I'm playing New Vegas. I've decided those two games are the only ones I'll play while I'm in college, don't really have time for anything else anyways.

Funny thing Splinter Cell, I just fired up New Vegas this evening to check my game save, and see where I'd left off on my last playthrough.  Could help but go out and get in a little trouble while I was at it.  And I hear you, prioritizing is very important where you are right now. For what it's worth, I'd have picked the same two games!

[Splinter Cell 108]

Barbarossa2010 wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

^You're lucky, I'd like to get back to skyrim but college is getting in the way so I've only got time to play one game and right now I'm playing New Vegas. I've decided those two games are the only ones I'll play while I'm in college, don't really have time for anything else anyways.

Funny thing Splinter Cell, I just fired up New Vegas this evening to check my game save, and see where I'd left off on my last playthrough.  Could help but go out and get in a little trouble while I was at it.  And I hear you, prioritizing is very important where you are right now. For what it's worth, I'd have picked the same two games!

Yeah, haven't even finished the Witcher 1 and some other games due to time issues. 

Modifié par Splinter Cell 108, 10 mai 2013 - 05:12 .

[blaidfiste]

Lathrim wrote...

Seeing all these pretty pictures is making me want to install Skyrim again.

Damn you people and my weakness for eye candy.

I have a weakness for assassins and these 2 videos make me want to reinstall.  
I never thought of bending time in conjunction with quick reflexes.  He also shoots arrows as a distraction.  My non magic assassin isn't as polished.  

[Haplose]

Endurium wrote...

I use an older version of the FX injector which I've tweaked along with most lightspace settings and Climates of Tamriel to get a mostly photo-realistic view going on. I did look at ENB but all the screenshots were like drug-induced rainbows and blur, which I'm not too fond of.

Hm, the default ENB settings are indeed too cheery colorfull for my taste. But the beauty of this mod is that it's fully configurable. And countless players have uploaded their configurations at the Nexus and other sites. There's something for everyone's tastes: Realistic, cinematic, dark, bright, colorfull, gray, oversharpened, soft, even 8-bit pixelated, with any color palette you could want, with dark nights and/or interiors, with bright nights and/or interiors, with or without strong DoF and ambient occlusion effects and so on.

For me the effects change how the game looks and its atmosphere way more then all the texture packs combined.

[Haplose]

Lazengan wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Apocalypse Spell Package


I don't know if you'll find something in there that you like but it brings a lot of new spells, which have a variety of effects. 

If you care about gameplay, don't download this

it just adds broken spells that offer no gameplay and break your game with overpowered magic

No.

This is a great mod that finally adds some very needed variety to the spell effects.Potentially can make playing a pure mage an interesting experience, if still inferior to more complex systems, like DnD.

But it's definately not overpowered. If anything, mages still lack the punch, when compared with other specializations. Well, at least with this mod, they get the variety of effects.