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Haha.  A draugr bikini.  That's genius.

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Argonians with breasts?!? C'mon man!


racist

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Why do you copy and paste all the images from Nexus and not your own ones? Is that allowed without knowledge of the author?

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Bfler wrote...

Why do you copy and paste all the images from Nexus and not your own ones? Is that allowed without knowledge of the author?


I don't think that matters and if it did, how would they know?

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Yeah, I'd much rather see in-game pictures from your own game. We all can browse Nexus or the Workshop and see the hotrod shots. Show us the real deal in-game.

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Barbarossa2010 wrote...

Yeah, I'd much rather see in-game pictures from your own game. We all can browse Nexus or the Workshop and see the hotrod shots. Show us the real deal in-game.


Besides, if you ask me those pictures are part of what's very wrong with Nexus, Skyrim and modding in general.

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Laughing my ass off at that draugr bikini :D

Im sure it has some pretty high armour stats as well  :innocent:

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Captain Crash wrote...

Laughing my ass off at that draugr bikini :D

Im sure it has some pretty high armour stats as well  :innocent:


I wonder how it works with Frostfall. 

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Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Barbarossa2010 wrote...

Yeah, I'd much rather see in-game pictures from your own game. We all can browse Nexus or the Workshop and see the hotrod shots. Show us the real deal in-game.


Besides, if you ask me those pictures are part of what's very wrong with Nexus, Skyrim and modding in general.


Yep. And it just serves to reinforce stereotypes about the modding community. Anyone can pull down pictures from the Nexus forums for the caricatures. You like it, show it in your game.

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Bfler wrote...

Why do you copy and paste all the images from Nexus and not your own ones? Is that allowed without knowledge of the author?


HAH

my waifus are very NSFW

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Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Barbarossa2010 wrote...

Yeah, I'd much rather see in-game pictures from your own game. We all can browse Nexus or the Workshop and see the hotrod shots. Show us the real deal in-game.


Besides, if you ask me those pictures are part of what's very wrong with Nexus, Skyrim and modding in general.


nothing wrong with it

Skyrim Nexus understands that Skyrim is bad. They accept that and do this because they can and it's fun.

Also, a lot of the modders on Skyrim Nexus are female

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Skyrim Nexus understands that Skyrim is bad. They accept that and do this because they can and it's fun.

Actually, No. This nexus stuff is not a reflection of a bad game. It's a reflection of bad players, or bad player personalities. Any fully moddable game is gonna produce stuff like this, and always does.

But if you refuse to admit that the masses have nutters among them, then your only other option is to  say that a  Fully moddable game =  a Bad game. Which is  what you're really trying to say here.  Absurd argument that it is.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 11 mai 2013 - 05:47 .


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Yrkoon wrote...

Lazengan wrote...


Skyrim Nexus understands that Skyrim is bad. They accept that and do this because they can and it's fun.

Actually, No. This nexus stuff is not a reflection of a bad game. It's a reflection of bad players, or bad player personalities. Any fully moddable game is gonna produce stuff like this, and always does.

But if you refuse to admit that the masses have nutters among them, then your only other option is to argue that a  Fully moddable game =  a Bad game. Which is a ridiculously silly argument, one that you've been making here for several pages now.


I never said that

highlight where I said that

I said Skyrim is a bad game for other reasons, not because you can mod it. The modding is an attempt to make the most out of a bad situation. If can't have good gameplay, the least I can have is mindless degenerate fun with Waifus and limited physics

There are mods that attempt to salvage Skyrim, but they do a sub-par job at best

Modifié par Lazengan, 11 mai 2013 - 05:47 .


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Lazengan wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Lazengan wrote...


Skyrim Nexus understands that Skyrim is bad. They accept that and do this because they can and it's fun.

Actually, No. This nexus stuff is not a reflection of a bad game. It's a reflection of bad players, or bad player personalities. Any fully moddable game is gonna produce stuff like this, and always does.

But if you refuse to admit that the masses have nutters among them, then your only other option is to argue that a  Fully moddable game =  a Bad game. Which is a ridiculously silly argument, one that you've been making here for several pages now.


I never said that

highlight where I said that

I said Skyrim is a bad game for other reasons, not because you can mod it. The modding is an attempt to make the most out of a bad situation. If can't have good gameplay, the least I can have is mindless degenerate fun with Waifus and limited physics

There are mods that attempt to salvage Skyrim, but they do a sub-par job at best


Not this again. I enjoyed it when you posted sexy waifus for ****** material :crying:

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I never said that

highlight where I said that


Clearly implied, and you know it.  In everywhere else but your own mind, an RPG that allows you to alter/mutate/change things  is a *good* game, or at the very least, it's a game with a really *really* good quality of   open-endedness at the user level.

But look at your posts here.  you are LITERALLY  citing nexus mods as "proof" that Skyrim is a bad game.  Like I said, that's an absurd argument.  Extreme moddability  leading to extreme numbers of extremely creative mods is a sign of fan excitement and interest.  And BAD games do not generate fan excitement and interest....  especially 2 years after release.







.The modding is an attempt to make the most out of a bad situation.

False.  Modding is the product of  fan-based creativity.   If Skyrim was a bad game, it would not generate  1) such a large fan base,  2) this level of creativity,  3) anything but apathy.    We are living in an entertainment-saturated digital world.  Your average Joe  has many options, so he is NOT going to waste  his time continuously pumping out or downloading  mods for a  game he sees as  Sh**ty.  He'll just move on to something else.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 11 mai 2013 - 06:05 .


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simfamSP wrote...

Lazengan wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Lazengan wrote...


Skyrim Nexus understands that Skyrim is bad. They accept that and do this because they can and it's fun.

Actually, No. This nexus stuff is not a reflection of a bad game. It's a reflection of bad players, or bad player personalities. Any fully moddable game is gonna produce stuff like this, and always does.

But if you refuse to admit that the masses have nutters among them, then your only other option is to argue that a  Fully moddable game =  a Bad game. Which is a ridiculously silly argument, one that you've been making here for several pages now.


I never said that

highlight where I said that

I said Skyrim is a bad game for other reasons, not because you can mod it. The modding is an attempt to make the most out of a bad situation. If can't have good gameplay, the least I can have is mindless degenerate fun with Waifus and limited physics

There are mods that attempt to salvage Skyrim, but they do a sub-par job at best


Not this again. I enjoyed it when you posted sexy waifus for ****** material :crying:


I actually have a male bishie character

And that Elf girl was my waifu

Serana is just friend zoning me so I wos liek: K, screw it Serana, you don't want to be serious I'll find someone else

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Yrkoon wrote...

Lazengan wrote...

I never said that

highlight where I said that


Clearly implied, and you know it.  In everywhere else but your own mind, an RPG that allows you to alter/mutate/change things  is a *good* game, or at the very least, it's a game with a really *really* good quality of   open-endedness at the user level.

But look at your posts here.  you are LITERALLY  citing nexus mods as "proof" that Skyrim is a bad game.  Like I said, that's an absurd argument.  Extreme moddability  leading to extreme numbers of extremely creative mods is a sign of fan excitement and interest.  And BAD games do not generate fan excitement and interest....  especially 2 years after release.



.The modding is an attempt to make the most out of a bad situation.

False.  Modding is the product of  fan-based creativity.   If Skyrim was a bad game, it would not generate  1) such a large fan base,  2) this level of creativity,  3) anything but apathy.




the Skyrim Nexus Mods are a reflection of what the community actually thinks of the game. It is the PRODUCT of the experience. 

I have talked with many people on Nexus Forums and this is undoubtedly their opinion of the game, 

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Yrkoon wrote...

Lazengan wrote...

I never said that

highlight where I said that


Clearly implied, and you know it.  In everywhere else but your own mind, an RPG that allows you to alter/mutate/change things  is a *good* game, or at the very least, it's a game with a really *really* good quality of   open-endedness at the user level.

But look at your posts here.  you are LITERALLY  citing nexus mods as "proof" that Skyrim is a bad game.  Like I said, that's an absurd argument.  Extreme moddability  leading to extreme numbers of extremely creative mods is a sign of fan excitement and interest.  And BAD games do not generate fan excitement and interest....  especially 2 years after release.




.The modding is an attempt to make the most out of a bad situation.

False.  Modding is the product of  fan-based creativity.   If Skyrim was a bad game, it would not generate  1) such a large fan base,  2) this level of creativity,  3) anything but apathy.



Absolutely implied over the last ten pages and explicitly stated in the bold. Using that logic, New Vegas, FO3 and Oblivion are "bad" games as well. They all have suspiciously comparable numbers in the category where one would expect the highest numbers of mods to fix a "bad" game...i.e. Nexus: Gameplay category. 

As it is, the number of gameplay effects/changes mods are lowest with Skyrim....by far.  Lazengan has clearly stated that Skyrim is a bad game due to gameplay and had to be modded to address it, yet of the games listed, it is the least modded game in the gameplay category.

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Lazengan wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Lazengan wrote...

I never said that

highlight where I said that


Clearly implied, and you know it.  In everywhere else but your own mind, an RPG that allows you to alter/mutate/change things  is a *good* game, or at the very least, it's a game with a really *really* good quality of   open-endedness at the user level.

But look at your posts here.  you are LITERALLY  citing nexus mods as "proof" that Skyrim is a bad game.  Like I said, that's an absurd argument.  Extreme moddability  leading to extreme numbers of extremely creative mods is a sign of fan excitement and interest.  And BAD games do not generate fan excitement and interest....  especially 2 years after release.





.The modding is an attempt to make the most out of a bad situation.

False.  Modding is the product of  fan-based creativity.   If Skyrim was a bad game, it would not generate  1) such a large fan base,  2) this level of creativity,  3) anything but apathy.




the Skyrim Nexus Mods are a reflection of what the community actually thinks of the game. It is the PRODUCT of the experience. 

I have talked with many people on Nexus Forums and this is undoubtedly their opinion of the game, 


Arbitrarily asserted means arbitrarily dismissed.

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the Skyrim Nexus Mods are a reflection of what the community actually thinks of the game. It is the PRODUCT of the experience. 

Really?Posted Image

Lets apply this claim of yours to...  The most popular Nudity mod on the nexus  (and one of the  most downloaded mods  period  in all of Skyrim Nexus):  Caliente.

Lets see...  Why would the community download  Caliente's Nude Mod? 
Your answer:   Because Skyrim is a bad game.

So, Ok, lets try and wrap our heads around this one from a logical perspective.

Skyrim= Bad game
Skyrim + Nude mod = Good game...?  or Bad game Fixed...?

Conclusion:  Skyrim is  a bad  game because.... it doesn't show  ****** and ass.  LOL  Really?


BS.  Enough of  this  banal drivel.  I've got a better conclusion.   Lazengan  doesn't know what the flock he's talking about.
 

 
I have talked with many people on Nexus Forums and this is undoubtedly their opinion of the game, 

...And should probably take a class on how to gather and mine polling data.  lol.

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Yrkoon wrote...

Lazengan wrote...
the Skyrim Nexus Mods are a reflection of what the community actually thinks of the game. It is the PRODUCT of the experience. 

Really?Posted Image

Lets apply this claim of yours to...  The most popular Nudity mod on the nexus  (and one of the  most downloaded mods  in all of Skyrim Nexus):  Caliente.

Lets see...  Why would the community download  Caliente's Nude Mod? 
Your answer:   Because Skyrim is a bad game.

So, Ok, lets try and wrap our heads around this one from a logical perspective.

Skyrim= Bad game

Skyrim + Nude mod = Good game...?  or Bad game Fixed...?

Conclusion:  Skyrim is  a bad  game because it doesn't show  ****** and ass.  LOL  Really?


BS.  Enough of  this  banal drivel.  I've got a better conclusion.   Lazengan  doesn't know what the flock he's talking about.
 

 
I have talked with many people on Nexus Forums and this is undoubtedly their opinion of the game, 

...And should probably take a freshman level  Statistics course.

...And doesn't know the first


bad game

shrug lets just use the engine and resources we have

hey look at these pretty waifus that mask over bethesda's ugly NPCs

I get it you're mad that I insulted your favourite game. Do you know anything about game design to begin with? Keep in mind that I still like Skyrim, just for different reasons

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nothing wrong with it

Skyrim Nexus understands that Skyrim is bad. They accept that and do this because they can and it's fun.

Also, a lot of the modders on Skyrim Nexus are female


Your opinion, that's all I'll say about that. Here we go again, this time  I'm not even going to bother, it seems you didn't enjoy your time at ban camp enough. 

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Lazengan wrote...

*SNIP*

bad game

shrug lets just use the engine and resources we have

hey look at these pretty waifus that mask over bethesda's ugly NPCs

I get it you're mad that I insulted your favourite game. Do you know anything about game design to begin with? Keep in mind that I still like Skyrim, just for different reasons


So it's a bad now because of ugly NPCs? LOL, you really like to move that goal post don't you? You were doing much better just showing us forum shots of the waifus. You might want to get back to that. 

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bad game

shrug lets just use the engine and resources we have

hey look at these pretty waifus that mask over bethesda's ugly NPCs

You know full well  (or maybe not, but the rest of us do,) that Skyrim is Nordic based, and its lore   matter-of-factly implies a primitive, traditional fantasy  setting.  You know.... a setting where your   average nord warrior will NOT look like a model straight off the cover of Playboy, or Cosmo or some other  modern-day magazine.  instead, they'll look rugged and dirty and fully dressed for the weather... very much a product of their environment.  Skyrim would be a bad game if it had FAILED to  capture the setting with its people.


The fact that we've got a massive fan base that wants to mix a  little  lore-breaking   Playboy  centerfold with their Nord setting does not logically imply that Skyrim is a bad game, or even that they think it's a bad game, especially since it's   the game  itself that actually ALLOWS  you to do  duch a thing if you wish!

Oh and by the way, the engine has nothing to do with any of that either.  It's the Artstyle that people are mutating.  Not the engine.  And good luck finding  people who  will argue that Skyrim's artstyle is anything less than  Gorgeous from the ground up.

I get it you're mad that I insulted your favourite game. Do you know anything about game design to begin with? Keep in mind that I still like Skyrim, just for different reasons


Hmm...  Nope.  You haven't earned the type of respect needed to use such statements to get under my skin.  And silly internet-dismissal posts like this one won't score you a respite from people shredding your  failed attempts at logic.

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