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mybudgee wrote...

@Yrkoon: you really think Hearthfire is worth it?

Well, yes.  lets not forget that you can get it now for $5.


And for $5, you get new companions,  3 new  homes you can build from scratch, complete with gardens, fisheries, stables, kids, etc.  But the main reason I rank it so high is that I'm finding myself unable to  skip it in any given playthrough, which means they managed to integrate it seamlessly  into the main game.  In my last playthrough I didn't   do any of Dragonborn (for example).  But I did build and live in Lakeveiw manor.  In the playthrough before that, I didn't  do much of Dawnguard, but I did build all 3 houses and used them as bases of operation.  There's something to be said for that.

In a game like Skyrim I'll put  a lot of value in utility, and that's what Hearthfire is all about.

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Started getting bored with my 2h nord warrior after he knocked out the Main Questline, Companions, Civil War, and Dragonborn questlines. Still has to finish up dawnguard but I felt like starting up a sword and shield imperial. Also thinking of doing another wood elf assassin archer did one of those before I lost all of my saves, she was a deadly little elf.

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M25105 wrote...

1295 pages here, yet according to the Dragon Age: Inquisition forum, Skyrim is the terribad for casuals.


That's very ironic, considering the state of Dragon Age, the thing is that Skyrim isn't just for the hardcore or casuals, I think it works for everyone and most people can do with it as they wish in their own unique way. Plus, if you have access to modding you can make it even more difficult like I do with most moddable games anyways. 

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For me personally, Dragon Age 2 was one of the biggest letdowns of all time

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Has anyone here actually preferred Dragonborn over Dawnguard? I've found that any time I see people compare the two they prefer Dawnguard, as do I.


Well Dawnguard has Serana, soooo Posted Image

And that is why I like Dragonborn more then Dawnguard, it doesn't have Serena and doesn't seem as silly so to speak.

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I didn't think of Dawnguard or Dragonborn as silly. Don't know where you got the impression DG was silly, though my curiosity's piqued.

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I thought both of them were well done, and Serana is one of the best companions in the game IMO

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 I'm poking my head in here to ask a question.  I love Skyrim, though I rarely post here. I like my current character, but she's still low level enough where she's fun.  Does anyone here use ASIS?  I want to try it, but I don't want to screw up yet another game.  It does have a lot of endorsements, but it looks like it would change things very radically.

Then again, it's not like higher level combat didn't need an overhaul.  

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Use it if you must. I do my best to not use mods that affect gameplay and difficulty. To me, mods that add characters, places, quests and new visuals are more then enough.

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Be aware that removing such complex mods after installing them can lead to corrupted save files and other 'fun', so be sure you really, really want that mod before installing it for a game-in-progress.

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Yeh, that's why I was asking here. If someone had actually played it, and their experience. I don't want to screw up my game if it ends up not making the end game better.

I always seem to abandon my characters once they hit the 50s because the combat is just not fun any more.  Maybe I'll just wait until it gets boring and then install it and see if it helps.

Thank you :)

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ejoslin wrote...

Yeh, that's why I was asking here. If someone had actually played it, and their experience. I don't want to screw up my game if it ends up not making the end game better.

I always seem to abandon my characters once they hit the 50s because the combat is just not fun any more.  Maybe I'll just wait until it gets boring and then install it and see if it helps.

Thank you :)


If you want to see ASIS in action, I believe Gophervids used it in the starting chapter of Let's Play Skyrim Again before he switched to SkyRe. Neither of them are for me personally, but it is good to see them used to make that evaluation.

However, I recommend this mod; not as widely seen, but it enhances opponents w/o all the perk, Skill, etc revisions that these other mods include:


http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/14449

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LPPrince wrote...

I didn't think of Dawnguard or Dragonborn as silly. Don't know where you got the impression DG was silly, though my curiosity's piqued.


As is mine... silly is probably the last word I'd ever think of to describe it. :huh:

As an aside... one thing I am grateful for about Dragonborn is that, although they tragically didn't delve very deep into Miraak's background, there is enough there to piece some of the important parts together yourself. It seems to me Miraak was made Dragonborn for the same purpose our Dovahkiin was - to stop Alduin from destroying the world. He even states himself that he had that opportunity and was even asked for his aid by Hakon One-Eye. Instead, Miraak let Hermaeus Mora corrupt him and turn him away from his destiny...

...and so our Dovahkiin is tasked to do what Miraak failed to thousands of years ago. So in a way, everything that transpires during Skyrim is Miraak and Hermaeus Mora's fault... and Hermaeus Mora even slithers his way into our Dovahkiin's fate as well, conveniently showing up where we were all but destined to go during the main quest. I doubt that was an accident given Mora's penchant for scheming and manipulation and the continued investment in, and manipulation of the Dovahkiin during the Dragonborn MQ... all so Mora can watch the first Dragonborn and the last duel atop Apocrypha, for little more than the secrets of the Skaal as well as for his own twisted amusement if Miraak is to be believed.

Mora is a conniving, treacherous bastard and probably among the most insidious and dangerous of the Daedric Lords... and considering what kind of fiends some of the other Princes like Molag Bal and Dagon are, that's really saying something.

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ejoslin wrote...

Yeh, that's why I was asking here. If someone had actually played it, and their experience. I don't want to screw up my game if it ends up not making the end game better.

I always seem to abandon my characters once they hit the 50s because the combat is just not fun any more.  Maybe I'll just wait until it gets boring and then install it and see if it helps.

Thank you :)


Well for me, I too dislike complete overhaul mods targeted at gameplay mechanics, because of the very real possibility of catastrophically messing up your game if you don't like it and want to remove it. Now, some players are quite savvy to overcome such obstacles, but I unfortunately am not. I prefer smaller, more targeted mods that add tweaks here and there, or separate quests, companions, and arenas.  As was said, an overhaul mod such as ASIS, is not so easily uninstalled with a mere click of a button.  A very real threat may remain upon uninstall, and corrupt your game files. Too risky for me, because I guard my save files like nobody's business.

Just out of curiosity, did you up the difficulty, or are you already maxed out on Master...well...now Legendary?  It's a pretty good cure for Dovahkiin's over level 40 who find themselves steam rolling everything. I just got to that point in my current game, upped the difficulty and found a single electro-mancer that kicked my tail about 4 times before I could finally figure out how to close in and finish her.

Good luck either way.

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ejoslin wrote...

 I'm poking my head in here to ask a question.  I love Skyrim, though I rarely post here. I like my current character, but she's still low level enough where she's fun.  Does anyone here use ASIS?  I want to try it, but I don't want to screw up yet another game.  It does have a lot of endorsements, but it looks like it would change things very radically.

Then again, it's not like higher level combat didn't need an overhaul.  


I use it but I do remember it causing a lot of trouble it it wasn't used with a new game, however I can't quite recall if it was this mod or something else that I might have screwed up with my character. Nontheless, I do remember getting it to work after starting a new game. There's also some mods that don't work well with it, which is why there's an exclusion list when running the SkyProc patcher, however not all mods that are incompatible with it are listed there, so you might want to watch out. It is a great mod though, adds a lot of things and makes combat much harder and enemies much smarter. 

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greengoron89 wrote...

Mora is a conniving, treacherous bastard and probably among the most insidious and dangerous of the Daedric Lords... and considering what kind of fiends some of the other Princes like Molag Bal and Dagon are, that's really saying something.


You know what's the thing that bothers me about him, there's no clear motivation why he does what he does, he may be the prince of knowledge and all that but for what purpose did he need Miraak? That doesn't really get him any more knowledge that he already doesn't have. Sometimes I wonder if they're foreshadowing something with him, I wonder if he's going to have any involvement in the Second Great War, I even wonder if he had something to do with the first war in some way or another. 

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Well that sent me off on another mod hunt. Found this one.

http://skyrim.nexusm...com/mods/9494// Warzones - Civil Unrest

Seems good for those who want combat difficulty with large battles centered around SC vs I, and have it seamlessly integrated into the game and storyline.  You know, with all the talk of civil war, there really isn't all that much war happening. This evidently changes with Warzones. You will happen upon these huge battles between Stormcloaks and Imperials as you walk across Skyrim, and supposedly the battle will shift based upon your actions. They also tell you to not be afraid to cut and run. I'm intrigued. It appears you need quite the system to run it though. I might have to test it out.

Seems like a good mod to really work out UFO or Mercenaries and it actually be in the game as part of the storyline.

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^ *one tear... wishes for a PC gaming rig for Kwanzaa*
:crying:

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All of the Princes seem to want a "champion" to represent their interests on Nirn. Miraak may have obtained knowledge, or was working to obtain knowledge for Mora when he still ruled over Solstheim... and in exchange offered Miraak a power he would have never gained otherwise. But every "gift" Hermaeus Mora imparts to his emissaries comes with a secret price... one that usually costs them their lives or freedom (or both) in the end, as we witnessed with Septimus and Miraak.

I think he also used Miraak, and ultimately the Dovahkiin merely for his amusement at the end... a grand duel between the first and last Dragonborn, a private show for a twisted god. And no matter who lost, Mora wins... he retained a powerful champion (willing or no it seems) and he got what he wanted out of the Skaal.

And I don't think he's done with the Dovahkiin yet - he has turned us into his puppet, and states himself that no matter what we might think or choose to do otherwise, the Dovahkiin is his champion. His vile tentacles are wrapped up in the Dovahkiin's fate quite firmly... and like Miraak, Mora may very well sweep us up and lock us away in Apocrypha as his new favorite pet. A bleak fate indeed.

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All of the Princes seem to want a "champion" to represent their interests on Nirn. Miraak may have obtained knowledge, or was working to obtain knowledge for Mora when he still ruled over Solstheim... and in exchange offered Miraak a power he would have never gained otherwise. But every "gift" Hermaeus Mora imparts to his emissaries comes with a secret price... one that usually costs them their lives or freedom (or both) in the end, as we witnessed with Septimus and Miraak.

I think he also used Miraak, and ultimately the Dovahkiin merely for his amusement at the end... a grand duel between the first and last Dragonborn, a private show for a twisted god. And no matter who lost, Mora wins... he retained a powerful champion (willing or no it seems) and he got what he wanted out of the Skaal.

And I don't think he's done with the Dovahkiin yet - he has turned us into his puppet, and states himself that no matter what we might think or choose to do otherwise, the Dovahkiin is his champion. His vile tentacles are wrapped up in the Dovahkiin's fate quite firmly... and like Miraak, Mora may very well sweep us up and lock us away in Apocrypha as his new favorite pet. A bleak fate indeed.

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Barbarossa2010 wrote...

Well that sent me off on another mod hunt. Found this one.

http://skyrim.nexusm...com/mods/9494// Warzones - Civil Unrest

Seems good for those who want combat difficulty with large battles centered around SC vs I, and have it seamlessly integrated into the game and storyline.  You know, with all the talk of civil war, there really isn't all that much war happening. This evidently changes with Warzones. You will happen upon these huge battles between Stormcloaks and Imperials as you walk across Skyrim, and supposedly the battle will shift based upon your actions. They also tell you to not be afraid to cut and run. I'm intrigued. It appears you need quite the system to run it though. I might have to test it out.

Seems like a good mod to really work out UFO or Mercenaries and it actually be in the game as part of the storyline.


Unfortunately that mod is broken as crap, it crashes regardless of the spawn rate you choose. It has been abandoned by the author and it doesn't look like anyone is too interested in fixing the mess that it
is. For some other reason, I've already had several games that have gone bust because of that author's mods. I wouldn't recommend getting, it sounds too good to be true. Don't waste your time with it, it is a hassle to run properly and it always has a problem in some way or another. It doesn't really matter what kind of PC you have, mine is very potent and even then the game was still crashing, there are warzones that crash no matter the circumstance, like the Dawnstar area, or the Redoran's Retreat Warzone, they always find a way to crash.;

This is a more than suitable replacement, it adds battles too, not as many and not as large as Warzones, but it is stable and it adds a lot more than a few battles too. It adds patrolling Dawnguard, .Werewolves, Vampires, more Thalmor, Imperials and Stormcloaks and in fact I think there's a Thalmor vs Stormcloak battle in there too, but I'm not sure since I haven't been able to play Skyrim that much. Nonetheless, I prefer that mod over Warzones, the only issue is that it adds too many esps but I'll merge them myself eventually if the author doesn't do it first. 

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Wow. What amazing looking mods! Thank you everyone :D

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greengoron89 wrote...

All of the Princes seem to want a "champion" to represent their interests on Nirn. Miraak may have obtained knowledge, or was working to obtain knowledge for Mora when he still ruled over Solstheim... and in exchange offered Miraak a power he would have never gained otherwise. But every "gift" Hermaeus Mora imparts to his emissaries comes with a secret price... one that usually costs them their lives or freedom (or both) in the end, as we witnessed with Septimus and Miraak.

I think he also used Miraak, and ultimately the Dovahkiin merely for his amusement at the end... a grand duel between the first and last Dragonborn, a private show for a twisted god. And no matter who lost, Mora wins... he retained a powerful champion (willing or no it seems) and he got what he wanted out of the Skaal.

And I don't think he's done with the Dovahkiin yet - he has turned us into his puppet, and states himself that no matter what we might think or choose to do otherwise, the Dovahkiin is his champion. His vile tentacles are wrapped up in the Dovahkiin's fate quite firmly... and like Miraak, Mora may very well sweep us up and lock us away in Apocrypha as his new favorite pet. A bleak fate indeed.

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All of the Princes seem to want a "champion" to represent their interests on Nirn. Miraak may have obtained knowledge, or was working to obtain knowledge for Mora when he still ruled over Solstheim... and in exchange offered Miraak a power he would have never gained otherwise. But every "gift" Hermaeus Mora imparts to his emissaries comes with a secret price... one that usually costs them their lives or freedom (or both) in the end, as we witnessed with Septimus and Miraak.

I think he also used Miraak, and ultimately the Dovahkiin merely for his amusement at the end... a grand duel between the first and last Dragonborn, a private show for a twisted god. And no matter who lost, Mora wins... he retained a powerful champion (willing or no it seems) and he got what he wanted out of the Skaal.

And I don't think he's done with the Dovahkiin yet - he has turned us into his puppet, and states himself that no matter what we might think or choose to do otherwise, the Dovahkiin is his champion. His vile tentacles are wrapped up in the Dovahkiin's fate quite firmly... and like Miraak, Mora may very well sweep us up and lock us away in Apocrypha as his new favorite pet. A bleak fate indeed.


lol Greengoron, you sure do like doing them sock-puppets, don't you.  First it's the Grand Oak  (I really liked that one btw), and now  Seraph Cross...?

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LOL. I liked that one too, but it grew tiresome trying to translate all of my opinions into verse after a while. One does not simply do a long-term impersonation of the Grand Oak Tree.

I'm not Seraph though - he's just an admirer of me and my highly thoughtful, well-articulated, and non-versed opinions, and feels the need to mirror them in order to better draw peoples' attention to them.

Isn't that right, Seraph? :P

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Why does Skyrim keep railroading me into the main quest? I don't want to do the main quest, at least not this early. I don't want to kill some god dragon and then immediately after set off on an adventure to gather 20 Jazbay Grapes, because that's just silly.

First I couldn't advance the civil war without becoming the Dragonborn (which was huge, since I was planning on not even having that happen until later). Now I can't even advance Dawnguard, a DLC, without going pretty far into the main quest?

Open world is "open" world =/