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[blaidfiste]

lol LPPrince is an ESOist report him!

[LPPrince]

Addai67 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...
250 is old for a ES elf.

No, it's really not.  That's an ESOism.

ESO- part of ES.

That means its an ESism.

Unless it gets contradicted later which who knows, it might.

[Splinter Cell 108]

I thought High Elves lived for at least a 1000 years? Don't they?

[LPPrince]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I thought High Elves lived for at least a 1000 years? Don't they?

Thats what I thought too before ESO Q&A. I figured all elves had several-hundred year lifespans.

[Joy Divison]

D&D elves live that long.

[LPPrince]

Seems both ES and DA elves have different lifespans in comparison to D&D.

[Addai]

LPPrince wrote...

ESO- part of ES.

That means its an ESism.

Unless it gets contradicted later which who knows, it might.

Wrong.

They're only doing it to keep the MMO kiddies under control, so they don't make 500 year old elves who they expect to be superpowered.  Those devs know jack about ES lore and care about it even less.

[LPPrince]

I get not being a fan of MMO's and not being interested in ESO, but can you not insult people who enjoy MMO's or are at least interested in them?

Also, seeing as the devs of ESO are working closely with the team that works on the series, I'll assume they care quite a bit about the lore.

Can we also not presume to know how they feel about things? Jeez.

I get being critical but damn.

[Addai]

Just call it as I see it. Oh sure, they're talking a lot about "lore" these days after they took criticism for the early designs being... what they are. But it's marketing. They couldn't even come up with their own concepts so they're recycling TES III plot- which let's face it, was thin to begin wtih, even attempting to retcon the Lusty Argonian Maid so that it existed in the 2nd Era. Slap it in there and call it lore. Who cares?

If you say you don't know what I'm talking about with l33tRaNgEr types, then you're being disingenuous.

And now I'd like to stop talking about ESO, because it's irrelevant to Elder Scrolls and also off topic.

[LPPrince]

Irrelevant to Elder Scrolls?

ESO- Elder Scrolls Online

Okay, fine. I'd like to keep talking about it though, since it interests me, plus there's been quite a bit of discussion online about how much Skyrim is going to affect it.

I'm sure the easy route people are gonna take is joining the Ebonheart Pact because thats where Nords are affiliated, and Skyrim was the last ES game released which was Nord central.

I'd rather go with a race that differs from what you see in Skyrim all the time, hence my idea as of right now to go Bosmer.

Oh, and another subject that came up- how much Skyrim in ESO will look like Skyrim in TESV.

I imagine it'll look similar enough, but it'll have to be different being that ESO is 1000 years prior to Skyrim.

[Splinter Cell 108]

Honestly, I think you should be asking home much of ESO is going to affect the SP games. We already saw how they abandoned DLC abruptly and I doubt it had anything to do with Fallout 4 since that didn't even make an appearance at E3. I'm sure ESO had something to do with what happened to Skyrim and don't say that "they told us that it wouldn't affect the SP games" because that is pure folly.

I'm pretty sure they said that about Warcraft too, and look how that turned out, developers say that all the time, they always promise that X won't be affected by Y's inclusion or development when it is impossible to promise such a thing.

[LPPrince]

I wonder in what way ESO's development would affect the single player games though.

I mean, ESO is made by ZeniMax Online Studios, in comparison to TESV and such's Bethesda Game Studios.

Same parent company, but...hmm.

[Splinter Cell 108]

LPPrince wrote...

I wonder in what way ESO's development would affect the single player games though.

I mean, ESO is made by ZeniMax Online Studios, in comparison to TESV and such's Bethesda Game Studios.

Same parent company, but...hmm.

It has already been affected, it doesn't matter if it's two different developers. Skyrim's DLC was stopped abruptly and I'm sure it had to do with them not wanting both games to compete with each other. 

[LPPrince]

Wouldn't a Skyrim DLC have come out this year though, had another one been made?

Then again, ESO waaas supposed to come out this year too. It got pushed back because of beta testers' feedback and the desire of the team to make changes.

I'd figure they wouldn't compete. A DLC for Skyrim would be a drop in the bucket compared to a full blown MMO release on several platforms.

If anything, a DLC for Skyrim would've drummed up more interest in the MMO for some folks.

Could be related. Might not be, but could be. Guess we'll never really know.

[Splinter Cell 108]

LPPrince wrote...

Wouldn't a Skyrim DLC have come out this year though, had another one been made?

Then again, ESO waaas supposed to come out this year too. It got pushed back because of beta testers' feedback and the desire of the team to make changes.

I'd figure they wouldn't compete. A DLC for Skyrim would be a drop in the bucket compared to a full blown MMO release on several platforms.

If anything, a DLC for Skyrim would've drummed up more interest in the MMO for some folks.

Could be related. Might not be, but could be. Guess we'll never really know.

Yeah it would have come out this year, probably, but it didn't and you know how they ended their DLC. At first we were told more content was coming, then a while  later apparently Dragonborn was the last DLC, they were working on something I'm sure of it, but they canceled whatever it was. Otherwise they would have stated that Dragonborn was the last DLC way before they had released it. 

It really doesn't matter if its expensive or not compared to ESO, money is money and costs are costs, if they saw that it became a liablity then it's likely it got axed because of that. Besides, DLCs aren't all that cheap to make, if patches are as expensive as they are I imagine a DLC would cost a lot more. MMOs are too expensive and if anything thats probably one of the big reasons why whatever they were making was thrown out the window. Aside, from the fact that you have two products from the same franchise and two different teams making "similar" games, its redundant and in businesses redundancies tend to be unnecessary costs. 

[mybudgee]

At least its not a MOD discussion...

Modifié par mybudgee, 28 juin 2013 - 09:27 .

[Yrkoon]

Actually, while my only concern here is the continued survival of the Elder Scrolls single player games that we get every few years (and thus I don't care either way about ESO), I *can* and *do* totally understand the vehement disapproval behind the creation of an Elderscrolls MMO.

You can't just go and bastardize an established, time honored piece of intellectual property and expect its loyal fans to accept what you're doing with a smile.   It would be  like you've got this wonderful Steakhouse you've been eating at for 20 years because you love their  flame grilled Porterhouse steaks, and then going there one night and discovering that they've suddenly decided to jump on the "health food" bandwagon, and they're no longer serving meat. Instead, their famous Porterhouse steak platter is now a low calorie veggie burger entree...but just to get people in the door, they're still calling it a porterhouse steak platter.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 28 juin 2013 - 12:16 .

[Gotholhorakh]

I find the Elder Scrolls thing easy with as an alteration of the IP, to be honest, as it's easy to take it or leave it.

It's not like they've made it the canon sequel of a totally different game or anything

[Elhanan]

Not being a Lore junkie, it is easy for me to overlook any changes that may appear in ESO. However, what does concern me are rules and mechanics that may make playing and dying too harsh for those like myself that are more reliant on Pause, non-twitch mechanics, etc. I am certainly not going to stay away because they improved the appearance of Elves, but may never test the game due to possible implementations that make actual gameplay too frustrating and annoying to enjoy.

[LPPrince]

Yrkoon wrote...

Actually, while my only concern here is the continued survival of the Elder Scrolls single player games that we get every few years (and thus I don't care either way about ESO), I *can* and *do* totally understand the vehement disapproval behind the creation of an Elderscrolls MMO.

You can't just go and bastardize an established, time honored piece of intellectual property and expect its loyal fans to accept what you're doing with a smile.   It would be  like you've got this wonderful Steakhouse you've been eating at for 20 years because you love their  flame grilled Porterhouse steaks, and then going there one night and discovering that they've suddenly decided to jump on the "health food" bandwagon, and they're no longer serving meat. Instead, their famous Porterhouse steak platter is now a low calorie veggie burger entree...but just to get people in the door, they're still calling it a porterhouse steak platter.

That analogy doesn't really work for me though. I'd alter it to say that you've gone to a steakhouse for 20 years, then find out that these other people are working closely with the people who run that steakhouse and are opening a new but related other place that is also a steakhouse but sells other stuff too, and is run differently by different people. Also has a related name.

Honestly, this thread is the place where I've found the most anti-ESO opinions(by anti I just mean non-interest, rather than outlandish over the top hate)on the web.

Everywhere else I go, people are pretty interested. I'm happy about that, because I dig the idea that I can play ESO completely by myself if I wanted to, but can also team up with other players and friends at any time and go do other things.

Smart thing about ESO and ZOS is that at no point have I heard any stupid comment like, "ESO is gonna be a WoW Killer" or some stuff like that.

They're just focusing on making ESO awesome without trying to hype it up ridiculously. At least for now.

[LPPrince]

Elhanan wrote...

Not being a Lore junkie, it is easy for me to overlook any changes that may appear in ESO. However, what does concern me are rules and mechanics that may make playing and dying too harsh for those like myself that are more reliant on Pause, non-twitch mechanics, etc. I am certainly not going to stay away because they improved the appearance of Elves, but may never test the game due to possible implementations that make actual gameplay too frustrating and annoying to enjoy.

The way dying works in the game right now-

You have two options when you die in ESO.

1- Respawn exactly where you died. This will cost you I believe, and I don't think this is allowed in a PVP area. Just PVE zones, but I could be wrong.
2- Respawn at a Wayshrine. This will send you to the nearest Wayshrine, which is effectively a "fast travel" spot. This won't cost you, but it might take time before you get back to where you died.

At least thats how it works right now.

[brettc893]

I find it funny and a little sad that the only fun I get out of Skyrim these days is with exploiting broken mechanics to become a dread god of all I survey.

My current playthrough is an Alter Vampire Lord named Arantham Blackfyre, who I'm rping like this:

www.youtube.com/watch

Soooooo much fun.

Modifié par brettc893, 28 juin 2013 - 04:40 .

[Barbarossa2010]

Well, I got detected, but I was more concerned about getting a good camera shot of one of the prettiest aurora shots I've seen in my games. I still never get tired of auroras after an embarrassing amount of time in this game.




...and still feel the thrill of dragon fights.

[Endurium]

Damn, the immersive thunder mod sounds so good. In a headset it is properly loud, drowning out all other sounds during a big boom. Going through desktop speakers and subwoofers, it makes the windows vibrate. Mmmmm love a good thunderstorm.

[Leonardo the Magnificent]

I'm planning on picking up the Legendary Edition for PC, and want some immersive, world-expanding mods, preferably something that makes cities feel like, well, cities. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Modifié par Leonardo the Magnificent, 28 juin 2013 - 06:01 .