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Endurium wrote...

I watched a couple of those ENB vids but it bugged me that Gopher left DoF activated, which obfuscated the scenery in many scenes. Still prefer good ol' FX Injector with CoT as far as in-game appearances go. No DoF, no blur, no lens flare (my lenses aren't dirty). My eyes love it.


As I recall, Gopher deactivates DoF when on horseback. And as he is the mod author of Dynavision, there may be additional configurations possible, though I do not know personally; do not use it.

Think it comes down to the Player's preference as to how they wish to view the world; as seen in a film, or other perspective.

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Elhanan wrote...

Here is a link to the ENB mods that have been done thus far. The Realvision Performance mod is the one that captures my attention, but others may have varied preferences. Enjoy!


http://www.youtube.c...bcesibJIRZkMVB8


Really dumb question  (forgive me, I'm techless too).  But....  how exactly does one install an ENB mod?  I went to Nexus and saw a bunch of them that looked really good.  But not a single one of them offers a standard NMM download, and the authors of those mods  can't seem to comprehend the notion that normal people of average intelligence want to improve the looks of their Skyrim too!   Consequently  the instructions they write up are in   advanced computer geek-speak.    Some don't even bother with installation instructions at all  (see  the Bleak and non-Bleak ENB mod)

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Yrkoon wrote...

Really dumb question  (forgive me, I'm techless too).  But....  how exactly does one install an ENB mod?  I went to Nexus and saw a bunch of them that looked really good.  But not a single one of them offers a standard NMM download, and the authors of those mods  can't seem to comprehend the notion that normal people of average intelligence want to improve the looks of their Skyrim too!   Consequently  the instructions they write up are in   advanced computer geek-speak.    Some don't even bother with installation instructions at all  (see  the Bleak and non-Bleak ENB mod)


Gopher has made installation tutorials for all the ENB's he has tested; believe they are on a separate Playlist at youtube. Hope this will help.

P.S. Could not find a playlist, but here is one of them, so it may indicate where all are located:



And it seems the grand question is, what does ENB stand for? Nobody seems to know for certain....

Modifié par Elhanan, 19 juillet 2013 - 06:08 .


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This seems to be the original ENB author's site. He refers to it as ENBSeries as early as February 2008 in his news archives. Doesn't explain what ENB stands for anywhere on the site that I could see.

I looked at the RealVision version and like it better than the others. I already use CoT and several of the recommended mods, so it might be a suitable replacement to the FX Injector (a D3D9 DLL) that has been causing my slideshow lag after going through X doors.

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Maybe one day I shall have a good enough system to handle better than medium settings. But then, the game is almost 2 yrs old, and I need my next one to play what the new game recommends at that time.... *sigh*

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Yrkoon wrote...

Really dumb question  (forgive me, I'm techless too).  But....  how exactly does one install an ENB mod?  I went to Nexus and saw a bunch of them that looked really good.  But not a single one of them offers a standard NMM download, and the authors of those mods  can't seem to comprehend the notion that normal people of average intelligence want to improve the looks of their Skyrim too!   Consequently  the instructions they write up are in   advanced computer geek-speak.    Some don't even bother with installation instructions at all  (see  the Bleak and non-Bleak ENB mod)


Well, it's not that complicated, really. I imagine noone bothers to make a self-installing mod is because all these nexus (and other) mods are actually just a set of presets for the libraries developed by Boris Vorontsov - and he doesn't want 3rd parties to publish his work. So typically you need 2 parts:
1. Set of presets from Nexus or another site
2. Original libraries (in corresponding version!) from www.enbdev.com/download_mod_tesskyrim.htm
Be sure to check the correct version in the mod description! Many use older revisions of ENB libraries. Trouble is when they were prepared for a version that is not supported by Boris and has been pulled from his site - but then usually the mod's author will provide some means to get the older and unsupported library. 

You could just try the original version too, but it's way too colorfull and saturated for my taste.

Unpack, copy the original ENB libraries into your main Skyrim folder, then overwrite the configuration files with ones found in the mod. Sometimes some files should also go to another folder, but then the supplied readme should inform about it.
Some mods also have several alternative presets though. If you want to use some of them, then usually you need to copy the config file from the folder with your chosen preset and overwrite the default config file.

Usually it's all written pretty clearly in the readme files. If you're having trouble installing, you could just avoid ones without/with unclear instructions and/or outdated and unsupported libraries. I mean there must be literally at least a hundread of ENB preset mods.

Can't imagine playing Skyrim without some kind of ENB mod, really.The change in atmosphere... it's just insane. Almost like it was another game. For me it's much more important than all the texture (including Bethesda's texture DLC), flora, fauna and water mods combined.

Modifié par Haplose, 19 juillet 2013 - 09:41 .


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Elhanan wrote...

Maybe one day I shall have a good enough system to handle better than medium settings. But then, the game is almost 2 yrs old, and I need my next one to play what the new game recommends at that time.... *sigh*

graphics are mediocre even on ultra settings

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Nice trolling attempt.

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Haplose wrote....

... Can't imagine playing Skyrim without some kind of ENB mod, really.The change in atmosphere... it's just insane. Almost like it was another game. For me it's much more important than all the texture (including Bethesda's texture DLC), flora, fauna and water mods combined.


Here is where we differ slightly. I received that same feeling when I first saw the Vanilla demo at the E3 2011, and again when I watched a demo vid of CoT.  But performance on my rig is a priority over appearances, so I can walk away from ENB's that want to re-paint everything.

It is when I see that a performance ENB is available to augment these other incredible mods that sparks my interest, but my current system is not up for the task.

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ENBs are cool depending on what it is that you are looking for. Personally I like the ENBs that do not change the vanilla game to much, the ones that are overly shiny or too bleak always have some sort of issue with the visuals. I always go for high performance though, I could run it normally without removing SSAO and DOF but the problem is that I don't like the FPS loss nor do I want to get too close to the memory limit, pretty visuals aren't worth that.

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 Another large DLC type mod.

Wyrmstooth

More my style than the other.

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Gopher has started a Let's Play Falskaar series, for those that may be interested in the quality, though be prepared for Spoilers. Here is Part 1 which begins during Vanilla play:



Modifié par Elhanan, 19 juillet 2013 - 04:59 .


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Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

ENBs are cool depending on what it is that you are looking for. Personally I like the ENBs that do not change the vanilla game to much, the ones that are overly shiny or too bleak always have some sort of issue with the visuals. I always go for high performance though, I could run it normally without removing SSAO and DOF but the problem is that I don't like the FPS loss nor do I want to get too close to the memory limit, pretty visuals aren't worth that.

I agree for the most part. When I first got Skyrim I thought it looked good, but there was this perceptible white mist over the screen, like post-processing or something. Similar to how Fallout NV was orange and Fallout 3 was green. When I first installed FX Injector it gave me a slider (Bleach) to adjust/remove that, and what a difference. Alas, after the Legendary patch something changed and I started getting slideshow framerates after going through X doors.

I'm liking the Realvision ENB version because it doesn't try to change the vanilla game too much, just goes for what Skyrim might really look like through good eyes. I'll play without DoF, but with SSAO and anything else I feels adds to the beauty of the game. I already run with a tweaked ini that enables tree and land self-shadowing. The subtle difference is nice. Showed my friends ENB Realvision and they agreed the non-DoF settings were beautiful. I'll probably go with the performance version because I also value smooth framerates. What texture mods I do use (other than the Hi-Res DLC) I select the 2048 sized textures for performance, and they look as good as 4096 textures on my 1200p display.

@Elhanan, thanks for the link; I'll watch this weekend despite spoilers, just to see how Gopher likes the mod.

Modifié par Endurium, 19 juillet 2013 - 07:47 .


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^ NP; the mod author stopped by to thank Gopher for the trial, so he is watching, too.

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Personaly I'm fond of The Wilds ENB mod.You can see some samples here: skyrim-comparison.wikidot.com/skyrim:1

Sadly it would seem that the author pulled it from the Nexus.

Modifié par Haplose, 19 juillet 2013 - 08:13 .


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How do i shut Heimsker up?

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Stealth: slip a potion of Frenzy into his pockets while others are near, and watch the fun.

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Haplose wrote...

Personaly I'm fond of The Wilds ENB mod.You can see some samples here: skyrim-comparison.wikidot.com/skyrim:1

Sadly it would seem that the author pulled it from the Nexus.


That one is pretty good, I've used it before, it's unfortunate however, that it is so demanding otherwise I'd go back to it instead of using the one I've got now. 

Unfortunately, I've also got to deal with Project Reality and anytime I want to install an ENB it has to be compatible with that otherwise it's really hard to get a balance with the dark night, sometimes its too dark other times its too bright whenever I use an ENB that doesn't have a COT version. 

Speaking of which, here's a screenshot I took with the ENB I use plus some stuff that modifies the night sky.

http://cloud-2.steam...17CA4F4B5680F1/

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IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

How do i shut Heimsker up?


You shoot him in the neck with a crossbow bolt.

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Alright, so, speaking as somebody who's having trouble getting into Skyrim but has sunk close to 200 hours (across PC and the 360) into New Vegas, would you recommend I try and play the game first in as vanilla a configuration as possible, e.g. with nothing but cosmetic mods like Project Reality? Or should I simply plunge in and start modding the hell out of it?

Gopher's got a very long mod spotlight series for it, I know, anything worth looking at from there (his two New Vegas mod series were extremely helpful)?

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I don't play Skyrim on PC but I'd play the game vanilla first, get the hang of it, learn the mechanics and stuff, check out all the places, basically experience the game as it is unmodded, then go in and do what you want modwise and experience the game in a whole new way.

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Cosmetics are nice though. ENB of your choice... *wink*

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More about the author of Falskaar here:


http://www.gamasutra...application.php

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LPPrince wrote...

I don't play Skyrim on PC but I'd play the game vanilla first, get the hang of it, learn the mechanics and stuff, check out all the places, basically experience the game as it is unmodded, then go in and do what you want modwise and experience the game in a whole new way.



This, but I would recommend not doing everything first; maybe just the Main Quest  Pls leave yourself many, many surprises so that you may enjoy that just installed experience again as much as possible.