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Endurium wrote...

I use ENBoost solely for the fixes it provides, and because it lets me continue to benefit from FXInjector for graphics post-processing. I'm thankful to ENB's author for providing (and continuing to update) a core set of fixes that can be used with the vanilla game if the player desires.

My video card (GTX680) also has 2GB of VRAM, so I'm mindful of texture size, as I mentioned before. Unfortunately for PC gamers, Skyrim's engine seems to have been tuned for consoles, which greatly hamstrings it on a PC.

In other news, loaded up the game looking over Lake Illinata last night and the rain was coming down (I have immersive thunder mod so thunder really booms). Great to leave running while doing other things in my apartment. haha. (Edit: I have the game day slowed to 12 hours real time, so weather stays consistent for quite awhile. I use console to change weather if it gets annoying.)


Yeah, but the strange thing about that is that Fallout New Vegas'  engine does not have this limitation and there isn't so much trouble if you uninstall mods or install a bad mod by accident. It doesn't start crashing your game or bloating your saves.

What I'm trying to say is that it is kind of ironic that New Vegas runs smoother than Skyrim with mods, although there is that problem that New Vegas has once you get past 139 mods, then it starts acting weird. It starts to lose meshes, doesn't let you use the main menu and starts corrupting data. I guess its less for more stability, but they say its a Gamebryo glitch. You could say Skyrim "can" use more but it becomes less stable, and that also depends on what you put into your game. 

I'm guessing Skyrim's engine was desinged around consoles and thus causes al these problems when trying to run with mods. I still think they should start using Id Tech 5, Bethesda owns it now, and Id has a good history with the PC. 

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New Vegas is probably different because Obsidian worked the engine over quite a bit with feedback from Bethesda, so while it's still Gamebryo it's Obsidian's tweaked Gamebryo. Thus a slightly different beast in some cases. Oddly enough I found it less stable than regular Fallout 3, and had to use an autosave mod to save myself lost gameplay.

Skyrim on the other hand runs fine for hours. *shrug* Both games sometimes give me the lockup during initial loading of a game, that can be bypassed by loading an earlier save, then loading the game I want to play.

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I've had more problems with FNV mods than Skyrim. Just like Oblivion, you have to be very careful of load order or it's CTDland.

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It truly depends on what you get, if someone starts using a mod like Warzones, then that person's game is finished. However, from what I've seen of the mods for FONV, there are a lot more that are bigger and more script heavy than what you'd find for Skyrim.

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What is the biggest battle in the vanilla version of the game (360)??

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mybudgee wrote...

What is the biggest battle in the vanilla version of the game (360)??


Most likely the final battle in the Civil War quests. This is the one that has caused some system issues in the past for me.

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^ When you bust Ulfric's ass??

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Sorry, I don't know of any way to fix that on 360, but then again, I've never tried. If I have issues like that, I just shrug and move on, but I know that's not the norm.

A Google search nets several results, including sites with free downloads to software that allows editing. I have no idea if any of them are safe or worthwhile, so use them at your own risk. Good luck!

Don't worry, I'm not like that. I did Google first, a few times actually, but I didn't come up with any definite answers!


happy_daiz wrote...
On a sidenote, I'm sad to hear you don't want to start a new character. Then again, I have 19, so...

I feel like eloborating on that:
It's true that I don't want to, but not because I'm calling people who do nerds or anything - I love spending lots of time playing video games. See, I mostly walk and even have my (thief-)character wear inconspicuous robes in towns during daytime, all that weirdness. It's just, there can only be ONE character who experiences all this - anyone else is just an imposter. Also you never really stop playing those games, you just always check out how things are, and take a walk or two on a regular basis, even when having another "main game" for the time being. An Elder Scrolls/Fallout character is more like an email adress than a single game sessions for me.

It's a commitment :)

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mybudgee wrote...

^ When you bust Ulfric's ass??


Or Tullius'/the Empire's.

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Baelrahn wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...
On a sidenote, I'm sad to hear you don't want to start a new character. Then again, I have 19, so...

I feel like eloborating on that:
It's true that I don't want to, but not because I'm calling people who do nerds or anything - I love spending lots of time playing video games. See, I mostly walk and even have my (thief-)character wear inconspicuous robes in towns during daytime, all that weirdness. It's just, there can only be ONE character who experiences all this - anyone else is just an imposter. Also you never really stop playing those games, you just always check out how things are, and take a walk or two on a regular basis, even when having another "main game" for the time being. An Elder Scrolls/Fallout character is more like an email adress than a single game sessions for me.

It's a commitment :)

I hear that. I have one character that's fairly high level (still not max, sadly). In that run, I've got over 450 hours invested. I've some other characters that are a couple hundred hours each, and the rest are less than 50 hours. A handful are right around level 2, as I got them to Whiterun and decided to play as something else. My poor Argonian may never see the light of day, I'm sad to say.

I have a few races that I REALLY enjoy playing. I've tried all 10, but I always go back to Khajiit, Breton, and Orc. Picking a favorite race would be impossible for me. Though I don't really "rp" per se, each one of my characters has their own compelling reason to be on their journey. And I have certain things that I absolutely love about each one.

And hey, no worries. If we all played the same, identical way, how boring would that be? Image IPB

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mybudgee wrote...

What is the biggest battle in the vanilla version of the game (360)??

Forelhost. Image IPB

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I remember Forelhost. And yeah its crawling with Draugr.  Even after making it through the dungeon, making it to the Dragon Priest chamber, and defeating Rahgot (right and to the rear) and his zombie horde of Deathlords....

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You know I find it amusing how they are trying to sell TESO, but most people still play Skyrim.

"Hey guys come spend another 60 bucks , then 15 a month for the next ES!"
"Nah Skyrim is all good for me"
"But but...MP!"
"Eh"

I wait to see how poorly it sells in its first weeks really.

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Well, not to mention that for me, I'd actually have to buy a PC that could handle it first. Add that to the $60 plus $15/month, and it's a no-go.

I mean, I'll admit, I'm intrigued by it, after seeing the character creator. But realistically speaking, I probably won't pull the trigger.

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It also comes out for Xbone/PS4.

So...uhm yay?

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Oh, does it? LOL, I missed that somehow. Well, we're waiting to buy either of those, so I guess it still remains moot for me. Image IPB

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

It also comes out for Xbone/PS4.

So...uhm yay?

Expect very simplified combat with a horrible UI you can't change along with more bugs then all Bethesda games combined.

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When I get my new computer I am just going to keep playing Skyrim.

Because by then some of the really interesting mods will be out.
TESO will also probably be F2P and have some interesting things.

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If they can make it run comparable to how Trion got Defiance to run on console, I'd be just fine, tbh. I never had high expectations of mp in a console environment, but that game actually surprised me. There's the occasional glitch, sure, but you have that on any platform.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

It also comes out for Xbone/PS4.

So...uhm yay?


If I were to guess, I'd say this is a sign of desperation. No MMO has ever been on consoles, the fact that they're attempting to do this tells me that either they're very innovative(I doubr it) or they're just throwing it out there because they're afraid it won't make money on PC. 

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Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

It also comes out for Xbone/PS4.

So...uhm yay?


If I were to guess, I'd say this is a sign of desperation. No MMO has ever been on consoles, the fact that they're attempting to do this tells me that either they're very innovative(I doubr it) or they're just throwing it out there because they're afraid it won't make money on PC. 

Well, there's Defiance, like I just mentioned. Image IPB

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Most seem to get scrapped before they actually happen, but that's one I know of for sure, and have played myself.

The trend seems to be going this way with the new generation consoles.
10 MMOs To Look Forward To On The PS4/Xbox One And PC

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Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

If I were to guess, I'd say this is a sign of desperation. No MMO has ever been on consoles, the fact that they're attempting to do this tells me that either they're very innovative(I doubr it) or they're just throwing it out there because they're afraid it won't make money on PC. 


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I stopped playing after I got sick of paying the monthly fee. It was fun, though. I'd probably love ESO as well, but now that you have to pay for an online service as well as the monthly fee for the game...nah. I prefer games that you pay for once.

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Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

It also comes out for Xbone/PS4.

So...uhm yay?


If I were to guess, I'd say this is a sign of desperation. No MMO has ever been on consoles, the fact that they're attempting to do this tells me that either they're very innovative(I doubr it) or they're just throwing it out there because they're afraid it won't make money on PC. 


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And Final Fantasy 11 before that. In fact, when FF11 was released, Sony sold a HD for the PS2 with it already installed. However, I don't think it took off in the US because of the delayed start here and lack of new servers when it was launched here.

But apparently it did well enough that they made FF14 and released it here, so what do I know?
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So I've been wondering...I keep seeing a message on load screens about converting your existing skills to Legendary Skills, as of patch version 1.9.

Have any of you guys done it? Is the point just to be able to go above the level 81 level cap? The reason I'm asking is that I've got Sneak nearly maxed, and wasn't sure if I should bother making it Legendary.

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happy_daiz wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

It also comes out for Xbone/PS4.

So...uhm yay?


If I were to guess, I'd say this is a sign of desperation. No MMO has ever been on consoles, the fact that they're attempting to do this tells me that either they're very innovative(I doubr it) or they're just throwing it out there because they're afraid it won't make money on PC. 

Well, there's Defiance, like I just mentioned. Image IPB

Image IPB

Most seem to get scrapped before they actually happen, but that's one I know of for sure, and have played myself.

The trend seems to be going this way with the new generation consoles.
10 MMOs To Look Forward To On The PS4/Xbox One And PC



Yep, and Defiance is a surprisingly good game. Repetitive...sure, simplified...yes; but it held my interest for quite some time; enough to purchase on both PC, and so I could play with friends, XBOX 360.

I thought it worked quite well on console.  There were too many players to count on my screen in any given Arkfall engagement and there was zero lag.  Trion made it work.  What's not to like?...its a fairly huge and functioning MMO with guns.