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[Addai]

Sheogorath is beloved mostly for his humor, I think, and that he's not completely bent on domination- that would be BORING! All the daedra have a childlike quality about them, they are just what they are so completely that they can't empathize with anyone or anything but themselves. The aedra aren't much better, but because they were tricked into giving up their lives for the mortal creation, they have vested interests there. That makes them seem less capricious.

@ Joy: Nice Altmer!

Gah, I still love Skyrim so much.

[mybudgee]

Whoa... thanks guys

[Khayness]

greengoron89 wrote...

That's true for a Chaotic Evil Dovahkiin (or just an achievement completionist).

Every player character in TES is a glorified Mary Sue in canon, so I have no problems playing them to 100% completetion each.

[Khayness]

greengoron89 wrote...

Oh, I do all of the evil quests like Taste of Death, Waking Nightmare, etc. - I just hardly ever "complete" them in the sense that I never do what the Princes command, and thus do not receive the Daedric artifacts. I usually turn the tables on Eola and her crew by transforming into a werewolf and having them for dinner instead, and always tell Vaermina and Dagon to stuff it.

I always aim for the longest business card title ever, so I have no problems being their champion. All at once.

[LobselVith8]

happy_daiz wrote...

Yeah, I think they're super creepy, but I've been pondering the idea of turning one into a dead thrall. I mean, can you imagine a Briarheart fighting for you, instead of against you? 

I was always sad that even if you do help Madenach escape, his group is friendly towards you, but none of the other Forsworn are. With the way word travels in Skyrim, you'd think they'd all have gotten the memo, but it doesn't work that way, sadly. In this run, I don't think Madenach is going to make it. Heh.

I think it's a possible separation between game mechanics and story, since I'd imagine that at least some Forsworn groups wouldn't attack your protagonist if you spared Madanach. Are you planning on siding with Silver-blood in this run, or butchering them both?

Generally speaking, does anyone think the Molag Amur section could still be remaining after the fall of the Ministry of Truth? I get the feeling that Uvirith's Grave - and the surrounding region - would likely have been destroyed in the Red Year.

[Addai]

greengoron89 wrote...

It's actually hard to tell what the full extent of Mora's power is as he almost never makes any physical displays of power. It may not be that he's incapable of exercising such power so much as simply preferring not to when he has the means at his disposal to work far more subtly and subversively to achieve his goals.

I think he's mostly dangerous because his realm appeals to mortals so much and on the face of it, seems innocent and even positive.  Forbidden knowledge.  Not quite as out-there evil as rape or murder or domination.  That's how he gets you!

Speaking of Daedric Lords, one of the more disappointing omissions from Skyrim is a Jyggalag Daedric quest. I expected to hear at least a bit more about him since Shivering Isles, but alas, Bethesda made no mention of him at all. Not even the Champion of Cyrodiil/Sheogorath had anything to say about him.

There's one dude on BSF who's absolutely convinced the Thalmor are secret Jyggalag worshippers.  It's not 100% far-fetched because some people think the Thalmor are the remnants of the Ayleidoon, and the Ayleid were big into daedra worship.  And there's an Oblivion rumor that daedra worship is on the rise in the Summerset Isles. Which lends credence to the idea that they could find Jyggalag after he's freed and go wild over imposing order on Tamriel.  Except in the end, I don't really buy it. They don't want to impose order, they want to return to the Dawn which is the exact opposite of order.

Modifié par Addai67, 07 novembre 2013 - 12:06 .

[Splinter Cell 108]

greengoron89 wrote...

It's actually hard to tell what the full extent of Mora's power is as he almost never makes any physical displays of power. It may not be that he's incapable of exercising such power so much as simply preferring not to when he has the means at his disposal to work far more subtly and subversively to achieve his goals.

That's just it, he has never displayed his power, that could go both ways. Either he's too weak to do so, of which I'm not so confident, after Dragonborn or he's waiting until he gets his chance to screw everyone over. This is why he's dangerous, he is not predictable and is an unknown since he rarely ever gets involved in anything or at least he does not make his presence very noticeable. 

Out of all daedra, Hermaeus Mora is the one I like the least, at least Molag Bal and Mehrunnes Dagon clearly state what they want. 

[Addai]

greengoron89 wrote...

I certainly think the Thalmor didn't just spring up on their own. I recall reading in the book The Great War that someone reported a "winged Daedra" rescuing Lord Naarifin (leader of the Dominion forces in Cyrodiil) from the White Gold Tower, which could point to Azura who has Winged Twilights under her command.

Granted, that's not much to go on. Just an observation I made. Titus Mede was also reported to be wielding Goldbrand (an artifact of Boethiah) during the Battle of the Red Ring, so who knows?

The Thalmor were always present as a poltiical party.  They might be descendants of The Beautiful, which was a quirkily named terrorist group in the early years of the Altmer forming their society.

The winged daedra might be a sign that Mede made a pact with one or more daedra. Attrebus Mede made an agreement with Malacath to end the Umbriel crisis. This might be what they've resorted to now that they don't have mythic backing from the dragonfires and the Amulet of Kings.

[Giggles_Manically]

You know I loved back talking Mora from his quest in Skryim through all of Dragonborn.

Because then in the end he says you will be either his greatest servant or greatest enemy as fate decries.

WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN AN AWESOME DLC IF IT WAS NOT LEFT UNDONE TO FURTHER PUSH TESO ON US!
I AM NOT ANGRY MY CAPS KEY IS BROKEN!

[Splinter Cell 108]

greengoron89 wrote...

I don't think he's done with the Dovahkiin either (the game implies as much). I wouldn't be surprised if the Last Dragonborn meets the same fate as the First, consumed by lust for knowledge or snatched away to Apocrypha at the last moment and kept as Mora's new pet Dragonborn.

I don't know about other dragonborns but mine don't serve any lord, be that Daedra, human or otherwise. The thing is that you never know with Hermaeus Mora. Is he threatening you or is he bluffing? Regardless, I don't care, he can say whatever he wishes. 

[Splinter Cell 108]

greengoron89 wrote...

Yeah, Dragonborn is definitely an unfinished product. There is cut content in the DLC's files apparently, indicating that there were more interactions with Miraak and that he might've possibly escaped Apocrypha towards the end.

I also think Bethesda genuinely wanted to include werebears and spears, as well as do more with dragon riding, but either couldn't due to time constraints or were simply unable to implement them into the game how they wanted - perhaps both.

Such a waste, especially since ESO is more than likely gonna bomb upon release. Oh well... there's always TES VI.

Pretty sure they had something in development before they announced Dragonborn was the last DLC. I don't know what they are trying to achieve with ESO, if they're expecting it to survive on customer loyalty they will be disappointed. Some people that like Skyrim will try it out but it is also apparent that some others will not. I don't think they can count on that to make the game a success and honestly I don't see it doing much competition against WoW, Guild Wars 2 or EVE. 

Personally, I think it is going to be SWTOR part II. Ironic that it uses the same engine too. I really don't know what they are thinking, most of the story is not lore friendly and those alliances don't seem possible either. If they're very unlikely during Skyrim's time, I doubt they would be any more likely during the Interregnum, when everyone was busy killing each other. I mean, really Nords and Dunmer? Or worse, Argonians and Dunmer? Bretons, Redguard and Orcs? Those are all long time enemies. 

[Morroian]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...


Pretty sure they had something in development before they announced Dragonborn was the last DLC. I don't know what they are trying to achieve with ESO, if they're expecting it to survive on customer loyalty they will be disappointed. Some people that like Skyrim will try it out but it is also apparent that some others will not. I don't think they can count on that to make the game a success and honestly I don't see it doing much competition against WoW, Guild Wars 2 or EVE. 

Personally, I think it is going to be SWTOR part II. Ironic that it uses the same engine too.

Its not using the hero engine. Early on they were looking at using it but they quite rightly abandoned that idea given the engines difficulty with large numbers of characters on screen.

As for the competition aspect, most of the WvW population in GW2 will flock to it, primarily due to poor support of the WvW mode. Eve is a niche game and WoW is declining.

The most competition is likely to come from Wildstar actually given that they are both aiming to launch in the same quarter. They are quite different games however. The combination of WS and TESO is likely to kill off most of the Guild Wars 2 population.

[Yrkoon]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...


I dislike Daedric lords as well, they're a bunch of pricks and I do not want to be anyone's champion(servant). The only  daedra that ever get anything from me are Meridia, Hircine, Sheogorath and Sanguine, mainly because they do not demand anything in exchange.

Sure they do.    They are the worst puppeteers.

-Sheogorath *literally* kidnaps you from reality and holds you hostage in someone's mind.    And  unlike all the other Daedric Princes, he does not allow you to reject his demands.

-Meridia makes his demand of you the second you get his beacon.  And if you're foolish enough to follow through and go to mount Kilkreath, you are  then  physicially lifted about 1000 feet in the air and given more demands.  In mortal-speak, this  the same as someone holding a gun to your head and telling you to do something.   Oh,  and you'll be a Meridia's  servant while doing that quest, and  Meridia's champion when you're done.

-Hercine and Sanguine may be "cool", and "fun",    but they use you for their own personal amusement.   They do not  see you as anything more than  a  vermin who does tricks.    Hercine asks you to become his champion and engage in a  pointless cat & mouse chase  while he watches.    Sanguine  makes a fool out of you for the lulz.     In many ways,   this kind of stuff is   worse than what the other Daedra ask you to do, because  it's   demeaning.  Not just evil.

And these 4 are no different than Malacath, for example.  No I take that back.  They're worse.  At least the Demand that Malacath makes is a natural one:  He asks you to prove your strength in battle if you wish to lift a curse that has been inflicted upon a tribe of his followers  -    That's called Questing btw... or problem solving, or ego-stroking  -  something most "Heros" would  gladly do even if they weren't asked.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 07 novembre 2013 - 09:13 .

[Joy Divison]

To be fair about Hircine - the DB goes to him and *asks* for a favor.

Episode 2 of Desdenova's tale is up.

Modifié par Joy Divison, 07 novembre 2013 - 11:17 .

[happy_daiz]

greengoron89 wrote...
EDIT: I just discovered a pretty monstrous poison recipe. Imp Stool + Skeever Tail + Scathecraw = complete health destruction. It immediately takes 60 Health (30 of which is permanent) and continues doing 15 points of damage for 10 seconds afterward. I'll have to make more of these, preferably with Fortify Alchemy gear on next time.

Ooh, thanks! I'm going to steal that! 

[Giggles_Manically]

Why even bother with poison!

Just smack someone upside the head with a war hammer!

[Elhanan]

Most likely all here know of aMidianborn mods; improves textures for both weapons and armors. Great mods, BTW.

Well I recently found Better Shaped Weapons (ie; BSW), and am lovin' the thinner, deadlier looking blades, esp for Glass swords; no more paddles. Plus these new weapons have scabbards to go across your backs, if you want them. Recommended; thus far no hiccups.

[happy_daiz]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Why even bother with poison!

Just smack someone upside the head with a war hammer!

I can just picture my sneaky Khajiit tip-toeing up to enemies, then RAWR! smacking them upside the head with a war hammer. It's something akin to a cartoon in my mind.