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LobselVith8

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Carcharoth42 wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

I meant in terms of avoiding the conversation and the journal entry that shows up even if you decline Brynjolf's offer, since I can't delete unnecessary journal entries on PS3, and it's a little OOC for the Redoran character I'm planning to simply ignore it. Some testing on my part showed Ash Shell will leave an NPC immobilized in a cell until the protagonist returns to the cell.


Use the forge while Brynjolf tries to speak to you. He'll give up and go back to his stall. 


Is that permanent? Thank you for the response. I had a horrible day at work; it's nice to get a bit of good news for the day.

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Joy Divison wrote...

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Abraham_uk wrote...

Hey guys. Here is a question

If you could play as any race except the 10 playable races (Altmer, Bosmer, Dunmer, Orsimer, Breton, Imperial, Nord,Redguard, Argonian and Khajiit), which race would you be?


It can be any race from Elderscrolls Lore, or a race mod, or your own creation.


GI


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For me, probably an Ayleid.


Sorry, little joke from ME3 MP...

...Geth Infiltrator

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Abraham_uk wrote...

Hey guys. Here is a question

If you could play as any race except the 10 playable races (Altmer, Bosmer, Dunmer, Orsimer, Breton, Imperial, Nord,Redguard, Argonian and Khajiit), which race would you be?


It can be any race from Elderscrolls Lore, or a race mod, or your own creation.

Nobody suggested Dwemer?

Now that would be interesting...

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Abraham_uk wrote...

Hey guys. Here is a question

If you could play as any race except the 10 playable races (Altmer, Bosmer, Dunmer, Orsimer, Breton, Imperial, Nord,Redguard, Argonian and Khajiit), which race would you be?


It can be any race from Elderscrolls Lore, or a race mod, or your own creation.


I want to be an Elder Scroll

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happy_daiz wrote...

Any race NOT in the game? Uhh...none. I'd prefer to play the 10 that ARE in the game. Posted Image

Playing as something else would defy all lore, and wouldn't make any sense. I'm puzzled why you would want to?

Yeah, there are enough playable races and probably one too many since imperial isn't really a race at all. I'd still play Nords and Dunmer even if others were added.

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Abraham_uk wrote...

Hey guys. Here is a question

If you could play as any race except the 10 playable races (Altmer, Bosmer, Dunmer, Orsimer, Breton, Imperial, Nord,Redguard, Argonian and Khajiit), which race would you be?


It can be any race from Elderscrolls Lore, or a race mod, or your own creation.


I would likely be one of the Falmer (who are more commonly known as the Snow Elves these days, as opposed to their mutated brethren who were twisted by the Dwemer). Perhaps as one who was in one of the planes of Oblivion when the rest were in hiding or being wiped out. The Falmer are an interesting people, and Dawnguard only made me more curious about them.

Modifié par LobselVith8, 09 décembre 2013 - 04:39 .


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 Khajiit and Argonian orphans

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I would pick the Dwemer, hands down

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@ Happy:

I was thinking of you when I made this episode...it's where Desdenova meets Eola for the first time.  I think I did a decent job roleplaying this with your favorite gal from Markarth :wizard:.

Desdenova meets Eola

The beginning of the episode does play a crucial role in how and why Desdenova reacts to Eola the way she does.  You can skip the part from 14 minutes - 22 minutes where I just talk about the spells I use/don't use.  Once I get to the mine outside of Markarth I don't think I say anything further about Miss E.

Edit: You'll like the preview thumbnail :D 

Modifié par Joy Divison, 09 décembre 2013 - 04:11 .


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You know some people make me laugh.

Like people who screech that by using the console to level smithing is "cheating".
Seriously I leveled to 100 TWICE, it is BORING.

What is the point in grinding out again and again?

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

You know some people make me laugh.

Like people who screech that by using the console to level smithing is "cheating".
Seriously I leveled to 100 TWICE, it is BORING.

What is the point in grinding out again and again?


For me, the console is just another way to 'mod' my game. Rather than install another mod to perform a desired task, the console allows me to do some things easily, and without the problems of modding.

The same goes for some mechanics like Fast Travel. While excessive use can spoil a playthrough, it can also be used to simulate a limited Teleport spell, Carriage ride, etc.

Also, as a solo game, I try and refrain from deciding what is fun and proper for another Player. This is a peeve I have against some Mod authors; ones that believe that their vision is superior to others.

Modifié par Elhanan, 09 décembre 2013 - 03:43 .


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I think enchanting is more of a grind than smithing. I don't think I've ever reached 70 in that skill.

And I do agree w/ Elhanan's point about fast travel. I much prefer to walk or take a carriage, but sometimes you just need to get somewhere from an inconvenient location. Particularly if you side with the Vampires...who wants to keep walking the Northern coast of Haafingar?

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^ I seem to level Enchanting without much intent. By putting crappy enchantments on weapons, then having to constantly reload soul gems, it levels Enchanting pretty quickly. Or geez, just use Auriel's Bow. That thing has about 3 uses (slight exaggeration) before you have to recharge it. Chillrend, too.

In my male Khajiit run, I have Enchanting up to the mid 80s - probably 90% of it was from simply recharging weapons.

I don't think there's anything wrong with fast traveling, but in my world, I've walked there first.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 09 décembre 2013 - 06:38 .


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I find enchantment is easier than smithing. Enchantment only requires that you get a bunch of soul gems, banish or sneak and a bunch of crap items to level it up. On the other hand smithing gets progressively harder.

As for cheating, I think I might cheat my way to level 40, been trying to make a playthrough but I had to deal with a lot of CTD problems, I finally got my game stable and unfortunately I had to trash a level 50 character because of those problems.

I never fast travel, I use Frostfall and disable it on purpose, however I do agree with the vampire thing, that place is just in the worst location ever, everything except Solitude is far away. I hate it when vampire missions have you sent to the Rift, Whiterun or Eastmarch. 

Modifié par Splinter Cell 108, 09 décembre 2013 - 07:12 .


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 I always take a break in Sovngarde to take in this song

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Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I find enchantment is easier than smithing. Enchantment only requires that you get a bunch of soul gems, banish or sneak and a bunch of crap items to level it up. On the other hand smithing gets progressively harder.

As for cheating, I think I might cheat my way to level 40, been trying to make a playthrough but I had to deal with a lot of CTD problems, I finally got my game stable and unfortunately I had to trash a level 50 character because of those problems.

I never fast travel, I use Frostfall and disable it on purpose, however I do agree with the vampire thing, that place is just in the worst location ever, everything except Solitude is far away. I hate it when vampire missions have you sent to the Rift, Whiterun or Eastmarch. 


When I am playing an allied Vampire, I use Fast Travel as a way of RP the Bat Travel transport; available in some mods. However, I simply try and keep the distances rather short and reasonable.

I use commands for Smithing; a tad for Enchanting towards the upper limits. Again, using some restrictions aids in keeping these 'learning sessions' reasonable; not wanting to exceed other Skills too much, if possible.

And I also use commands for supplying items that could be available based on other like items found in shops. If they have a Peerless version in Dwarven ,and also sell common Orcish items, it seems reasonable to get one with the same effect. Simply purchase the one, and have the Smith 'craft or import' the other via console.

Where most of us likely differ is that I also supply lockpicks and gold frequently, as I loathe shopping hauls found in most CRPG's. The first playthrough is done as standard, but after that I choose to skip all the long treks to the mall to sell loot. This also sims many of the mods that alter trade and economics, but no scripting problems.

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blaidfiste wrote...

 I always take a break in Sovngarde to take in this song


This is even more epic than the Dragon Born song. Which says a lot, because that tune was epic.
The best part is that it isn't another variation of the Morowind theme.

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happy_daiz wrote...

^ I seem to level Enchanting without much intent. By putting crappy enchantments on weapons, then having to constantly reload soul gems, it levels Enchanting pretty quickly. Or geez, just use Auriel's Bow. That thing has about 3 uses (slight exaggeration) before you have to recharge it. Chillrend, too.

In my male Khajiit run, I have Enchanting up to the mid 80s - probably 90% of it was from simply recharging weapons.

I don't think there's anything wrong with fast traveling, but in my world, I've walked there first.


I find fast travel to be a great incentive for exploration.
When I explore a new location, I can add it to my library of fast travel locations.
It makes me want to go everywhere, just to collect lots of icons on the map.

Some people collect Dragon Masks.
Some people collect Daedric Artifacts.
Some people collect unique armors and weapons (that can't be crafted).
Some people search for Easter Eggs.

Me? I collect fast travel locations.:wizard:

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Elhanan wrote...

When I am playing an allied Vampire, I use Fast Travel as a way of RP the Bat Travel transport; available in some mods. However, I simply try and keep the distances rather short and reasonable.

I use commands for Smithing; a tad for Enchanting towards the upper limits. Again, using some restrictions aids in keeping these 'learning sessions' reasonable; not wanting to exceed other Skills too much, if possible.

And I also use commands for supplying items that could be available based on other like items found in shops. If they have a Peerless version in Dwarven ,and also sell common Orcish items, it seems reasonable to get one with the same effect. Simply purchase the one, and have the Smith 'craft or import' the other via console.

Where most of us likely differ is that I also supply lockpicks and gold frequently, as I loathe shopping hauls found in most CRPG's. The first playthrough is done as standard, but after that I choose to skip all the long treks to the mall to sell loot. This also sims many of the mods that alter trade and economics, but no scripting problems.


Yeah but fast travelling with frostfall and vampirism kind of takes the fun out of it, for me I mean, I even disable Frostfall's vampire immunity to the cold just because I want to be forced into surviving. As a vampire I don't fast travel because I want the sun to be a real problem, not just teleport all the way in some place without having to face any enemies, crazies and/or others issues. 

I just wish not fast travelling didn't take so much time, going from Eastmarch to the Reach is more time extensive than it seems, and you always seem to get distracted either by fighting enemies, exploring ruins or dragons who are looking for a fight. 

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Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Yeah but fast travelling with frostfall and vampirism kind of takes the fun out of it, for me I mean, I even disable Frostfall's vampire immunity to the cold just because I want to be forced into surviving. As a vampire I don't fast travel because I want the sun to be a real problem, not just teleport all the way in some place without having to face any enemies, crazies and/or others issues. 

I just wish not fast travelling didn't take so much time, going from Eastmarch to the Reach is more time extensive than it seems, and you always seem to get distracted either by fighting enemies, exploring ruins or dragons who are looking for a fight. 


If Elderscrolls V Skyrim were a TV series, it would be told in the style of How I Met Your Mother.

There would be lots of stories about the Dragon Born doing traveling around Skyrim doing unimportant tasks, and exploring ancient ruins. The title would be "How I Slew Alduin".

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Abraham_uk wrote...

I find fast travel to be a great incentive for exploration.
When I explore a new location, I can add it to my library of fast travel locations.
It makes me want to go everywhere, just to collect lots of icons on the map.

Some people collect Dragon Masks.
Some people collect Daedric Artifacts.
Some people collect unique armors and weapons (that can't be crafted).
Some people search for Easter Eggs.

Me? I collect fast travel locations.:wizard: 


Have you encountered a glitch that causes NPC's to remain in their homes? If so, you may wish to avoid towns and cities; using stables and nearby locations instead. FYI

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Elhanan wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

I find fast travel to be a great incentive for exploration.
When I explore a new location, I can add it to my library of fast travel locations.
It makes me want to go everywhere, just to collect lots of icons on the map.

Some people collect Dragon Masks.
Some people collect Daedric Artifacts.
Some people collect unique armors and weapons (that can't be crafted).
Some people search for Easter Eggs.

Me? I collect fast travel locations.:wizard: 


Have you encountered a glitch that causes NPC's to remain in their homes? If so, you may wish to avoid towns and cities; using stables and nearby locations instead. FYI


I never encountered that glitch. Thanks for the advice though.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

You know some people make me laugh.

Like people who screech that by using the console to level smithing is "cheating".
Seriously I leveled to 100 TWICE, it is BORING.

What is the point in grinding out again and again?

The only truly valid response to the issue you're raising is:  It's your game, do what you want.... blah blah blah.

But that's not a good  start to the discussion  is it.

So my answer is:  Yes.  using the console to level up Smithing/Enchanting IS cheating.  It absolutely is.  It's also laziness.    And to answer your question, the point is that  Skyrim is a game that rewards you immensly for having a high Smithing/Enchanting score.  Therefore,  the so-called "BORING" task of leveling smithing is the price the game asks you to pay to receive these immense rewards.  You can, of course, decide that you want the reward without   having to pay this price,  and  simply console your  Smithing/Enchanting skill to 100, but  that's... cheating.  By definition   

And if you're gonna cheat yourself a 100 smithing  score, then why  stop there?   Why not   dispense with the illusion of  gaming all together and just use the console to insta-kill every enemy you face,   After all, even combat can sometimes get BORING.

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Yrkoon wrote...

The only truly valid response to the issue you're raising is:  It's your game, do what you want.... blah blah blah.

But that's not a good  start to the discussion  is it.

So MY answer is:  Yes.  using the console to level up Smithing/Enchanting IS cheating.  It absolutely is.  It's also laziness.    And to answer your question, the POINT is that  Skyrim is a game that rewards you immensly for having a high Smithing/Enchanting Score.  Therefore,  the so-called "BORING" task of leveling smithing is the price the game asks you to pay to receive these immense rewards.  You can, of course, decide that you don't want to pay this price,  and  simply console your  Smithing/Enchanting skill to 100, but  you would be cheating 

And if you're gonna cheat yourself a 100 smithing  score, why not   dispense with the illusion of  gaming all together and just use the console to insta-kill every enemy you face, finish every questline, get every loot item...etc.  After all, even questing and combat can sometimes get BORING.


Boring can also be crafting daggers, jewelry, etc repeatedly in MMO style to increase a Skill for a solo game. While such tedium could be viewed as balanced for a m/p experience, using a console command is not that different than adding a mod to perform the same function.

The price was paid at retail when I purchased the game.

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blaidfiste wrote...

 I always take a break in Sovngarde to take in this song


Even better with surround sound speakers w/ heavy bass. 

Mother o' god... 

The old Norse history nerd within me was going haywire in Sovngarde.