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[Abraham_uk]

Elder Scrolls VI (I'm not talking about Elder Scrolls Online that comes out on 04/04/14) won't be coming out any time soon.


However, I am interested in what ideas you have for the next game in the main series.
If you have any ideas, post them on this thread.

[blaidfiste]

Yrkoon wrote...

Myrkale wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...
You're still  missing a major major MAJOR part of the true Skyrim experience by not having access to any of those rare *gems* in the vault. 

The "true" Skyrim experience is the one Bethesda half hazardly developed and sold to us. Anything else is just fluff that the developers hope will keep people interested in buying their game. 

LOL  I'm pretty sure the  Modding tools are a little bit more than just "fluff to get some sales".    And If I had more time   tonight  I'd search and link us to some of the countless  interviews  with Todd Howard where he flat out says that  his games are meant to be modded, and that  fan mods are one of the Pillars of the elder scrolls franchise.

But for now, how about some  actual physical evidence?    In January of 2012, the Creation Kit was released.  Shortly thereafter,  modders  began   putting out House building mods.  Then later.... much later, Bethesda released  Hearthfire.  This was no coincidence.  Bethesda's mindset was that Modders were on to something... something very much True to the company's own vision of the game.

But all of this is peripheral.  Bethesda's worlds are meant to be modded.    The two concepts: Game + Mods, have always    been  what the ES games are.

Here we go, Todd Howard on modding:
http://www.vg247.com...uld-allow-them/ and
http://www.g4tv.com/...om-todd-howard/

[LobselVith8]

AstusOz wrote...

Finally entered Whiterun. It was a pretty long journey though! Started off in Falkreath, became Thane and hung around for a bit before moving northwards to Morthal. Became Thane in Morthal and helped them with their vampire problem before moving further north to Solitude. Did a few quests, including the first Potema one and the one where we get to meet an old friend before deciding to move on when I got the quest to bring Torygg's horn to the Talos Shrine. After that I moved east towards Dawnstar, helped them with their nightmare problems and mined for a bit, took on a few quests. I decided to head off to Whiterun after completing one of those quests (the void salts, the cave was near Morthal). 

I entered Whiterun recently, too. My Telvanni originally headed to Winterhold, and then made his way across Stormcloak territory to fund his magical research, and eventually headed to Solstheim. It was only after becoming a Vampire Lord and dealing with the thin-bloods in Morthal that he went to Whiterun. I envisioned it as a 'Rise of House Telvanni' type of run. What type of protagonist is your Dragonborn?

AstusOz wrote...

This of course includes various forts and the like in between. Always make sure to get some sleep at night (or later in the day for a longer time if I wind up in a combat zone for too long), haha.
Before making it to Whiterun, I stumbled upon Rorikstead. Something is definitely odd about that town. Especially considering Rorik's bedfellow and his response to the 'secret' question about the crops and the like. It was an innocent question but his response is just like, "Secret? What secret!? Why would we have a secret!?"

If you listen to the conversation Jouane has with Sissel, you get an idea as to what's allowing them to have such a plentiful harvest every year.

AstusOz wrote...

Also, has Dawnguard so vampires are more obvious? The mage from the Solitude court and that duo at the mill near Falkreath had the demonic eyes going on. Alva looked normal though so it's not for all. 

The conclusion we came to in this thread is that it likely has to do with the protagonist having an Aedric soul, so the Dragonborn sees them in a way only a few others might - like Falion and fellow vampires.

[Ozzy]

LobselVith8 wrote...

I entered Whiterun recently, too. My Telvanni originally headed to Winterhold, and then made his way across Stormcloak territory to fund his magical research, and eventually headed to Solstheim. It was only after becoming a Vampire Lord and dealing with the thin-bloods in Morthal that he went to Whiterun. I envisioned it as a 'Rise of House Telvanni' type of run. What type of protagonist is your Dragonborn?

Someone who would mostly fall on the paragon side of things while taking a very mercenary approach to a lot of issues. Not very sentimental due to past experiences but not without feeling either. Basically one searching for his place in the world. 

I've got him loaded with some classic Redguard biases. Doesn't like Conjuration or Illusion magic. Completely mistrustful of the Empire and most Mer. Disgusted by vampires and various other undead. 

LobselVith8 wrote...

If you listen to the conversation Jouane has with Sissel, you get an idea as to what's allowing them to have such a plentiful harvest every year.

Ah, so it's just magic? Seems a lot more innocent than some of the scenarios running through my head. Is magic that powerful enough that it can cause significant impact on soil and the like for many years? 

LobselVith8 wrote...

The conclusion we came to in this thread is that it likely has to do with the protagonist having an Aedric soul, so the Dragonborn sees them in a way only a few others might - like Falion and fellow vampires.

That's interesting I suppose. A bit abstract but I guess it works. I wish there was a way to confront them about it. At least some of them. 

[blaidfiste]

 I think Bethesda wanted cooler looking vampires for Dawnguard.  

[Dermain]

blaidfiste wrote...

 I think Bethesda wanted cooler looking vampires for Dawnguard.  

Then they seem to have failed...again.

[Jestina]

Bethesda rips people off almost as much as EA. The hotkeys are still broken and with all the patches, the workaround I was using for them doesn't work now either.

[happy_daiz]

You know, I'm half tempted to preorder one of these.

Shrine of Talos Statue


I have no idea what I'd do with it, but it's pretty dang cool.

[Joy Divison]

Heimskr approves: +100000

Modifié par Joy Divison, 18 décembre 2013 - 03:36 .

[Yrkoon]

happy_daiz wrote...

You know, I'm half tempted to preorder one of these.

Shrine of Talos Statue


I have no idea what I'd do with it, but it's pretty dang cool.

What do you mean "you have no idea what to do with it''?

You do what everyone else does.  You put it in your yard, then you wait.  Neighbors/travelers/worshipers will then stop by and  drop clothing, weapons, flowers and pocket change at its base.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 18 décembre 2013 - 03:52 .

[happy_daiz]

Yrkoon wrote...
What do you mean "you have no idea what to do with it''?

You do what everyone else does.  You put it in your yard, then you wait.  Neighbors/travelers/worshipers will then stop by and  drop clothing, weapons, flowers and pocket change at its base.

That's it, I'm getting one.

[Barbarossa2010]

And then like a good DB, you loot it all!

Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 18 décembre 2013 - 03:58 .

[Joy Divison]

Barbarossa2010 wrote...

And then like a good DB, you loot it all!

Desdenova disagrees!

[blaidfiste]

Joy Divison wrote...

Barbarossa2010 wrote...

And then like a good DB, you loot it all!

Desdenova disagrees!

I'm sure Talos would appreciate the Amethyst you were mousing over 

[Joy Divison]

blaidfiste wrote...

Joy Divison wrote...

Barbarossa2010 wrote...

And then like a good DB, you loot it all!

Desdenova disagrees!

I'm sure Talos would appreciate the Amethyst you were mousing over 

We don't want to set a precedent that might lead to flawless sapphires and diamonds

[Addai]

Just realized that one of the writers from Telltale's Walking Dead used to be at Bethesda. Nick Breckon- I think he was Community Manager, but with the fantastic job they're doing on TWD, it seems he made a good move into a writerly role.

[LobselVith8]

AstusOz wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

I entered Whiterun recently, too. My Telvanni originally headed to Winterhold, and then made his way across Stormcloak territory to fund his magical research, and eventually headed to Solstheim. It was only after becoming a Vampire Lord and dealing with the thin-bloods in Morthal that he went to Whiterun. I envisioned it as a 'Rise of House Telvanni' type of run. What type of protagonist is your Dragonborn?

Someone who would mostly fall on the paragon side of things while taking a very mercenary approach to a lot of issues. Not very sentimental due to past experiences but not without feeling either. Basically one searching for his place in the world.

I've got him loaded with some classic Redguard biases. Doesn't like Conjuration or Illusion magic. Completely mistrustful of the Empire and most Mer. Disgusted by vampires and various other undead.

Interesting. Is your Redguard a character who fought in the Great War? Did the WGC play a role in his decision to head to Skyrim?

AstusOz wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

If you listen to the conversation Jouane has with Sissel, you get an idea as to what's allowing them to have such a plentiful harvest every year.

Ah, so it's just magic? Seems a lot more innocent than some of the scenarios running through my head. Is magic that powerful enough that it can cause significant impact on soil and the like for many years?

Magic can be extremely powerful in Nirn. However, it's distrusted by some after the Oblivion Crisis, and the rise of the Dominion, many of whom are magic users.

AstusOz wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

The conclusion we came to in this thread is that it likely has to do with the protagonist having an Aedric soul, so the Dragonborn sees them in a way only a few others might - like Falion and fellow vampires.

That's interesting I suppose. A bit abstract but I guess it works. I wish there was a way to confront them about it. At least some of them. 

That would've been interesting. I would have loved to discuss vampirism with fellow Volkihar Babette and Sybille.

[Joy Divison]

LobselVith8 wrote...

That would've been interesting. I would have loved to discuss vampirism with fellow Volkihar Babette and Sybille.

Do we know they are Volkihar?

[LobselVith8]

Joy Divison wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

That would've been interesting. I would have loved to discuss vampirism with fellow Volkihar Babette and Sybille.

Do we know they are Volkihar? 

Sybille Stentor has the same appearance as other Volkihar (with glowing eyes), and Babette hasn't transformed permanently like Vicente Valtieri did after 300 years of vampirism. It's mainly a guess.

[Splinter Cell 108]

Joy Divison wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

That would've been interesting. I would have loved to discuss vampirism with fellow Volkihar Babette and Sybille.

Do we know they are Volkihar?

I don't think they are, I believe Volkihar refers to Harkon and his people, other vampires are just that "other vampires". Unless they had some sort of connection with Harkon which I doubt, if Sybille Stentor had any connection with him, she probably wouldn't be alive in Solitude, or even present in the Blue Palace for that matter. 

Someone must have messed up with something, what a Volkihar vampire is exactly wasn't made clear. I assume it refers to Harkon. No other reason to call it castle volkihar then. 

[happy_daiz]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Joy Divison wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

That would've been interesting. I would have loved to discuss vampirism with fellow Volkihar Babette and Sybille.

Do we know they are Volkihar? 

Sybille Stentor has the same appearance as other Volkihar (with glowing eyes), and Babette hasn't transformed permanently like Vicente Valtieri did after 300 years of vampirism. It's mainly a guess.

I think the Dawnguard DLC made all vampires have those eyes; it doesn't seem specific to Volkihars. Hern and Hert have them, as well as pretty much every other vampire you see in the game. Babette might not have them, because she has a child body model (?). Or it's an oversight. Who knows.

Back on point, I agree, though - I would have loved to have had extra content with DG, to chat about vampirism with known vampires.

[blaidfiste]

 Not to mention these guys are also Volkihar Vampires and show up at lvl 50.



They were in game both before and after Dawnguard.

[Splinter Cell 108]

I just finished the Witcher 2 yesterday. Good god what a great game, I wish Skyrim had some of the complicated choices it has. It'd be the perfect game.

[LobselVith8]

happy_daiz wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

Sybille Stentor has the same appearance as other Volkihar (with glowing eyes), and Babette hasn't transformed permanently like Vicente Valtieri did after 300 years of vampirism. It's mainly a guess. 

I think the Dawnguard DLC made all vampires have those eyes; it doesn't seem specific to Volkihars. Hern and Hert have them, as well as pretty much every other vampire you see in the game. Babette might not have them, because she has a child body model (?). Or it's an oversight. Who knows.

Back on point, I agree, though - I would have loved to have had extra content with DG, to chat about vampirism with known vampires.

I don't think being "thin bloods" negates their nature as Volkihar vampires. The protagonist can become Volkihar, even though the Dragonborn is regarded as a halfbreed by Valerica. We also have Vingalmo talking about how some who receive the Gift can't handle it, and are essentially the ones we encounter in the wilds - however, he doesn't regard them as being from a different Clan or anything like that.

[happy_daiz]

^ I was just talking about the glowy eyes. I was cherry-picking from what you said.