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Joy Divison

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LobselVith8 wrote...

I take it your Dragonborns love drinking contests?


Well, most of them are Nords :D



Edit: A homage to Nord Mead.

My own :wizard::

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Modifié par Joy Divison, 30 décembre 2013 - 07:23 .


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^Now that's a collection my DB can support whole heartedly. Good job...but MOAR!

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Joy Divison

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LOL I'm not sure that's possible. I collected *every* single Nord Mead I came across in bandit dens, Jarl's palaces, random homes I robbed for the Thieves' Guild, etc, and there is upward of over 2000 bottles there :)

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Well, I hear cheese wheels are very collectible.Image IPB

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I started filling up one of the glass weapon tables in the Severin Manor in Raven Rock with gems, in one of my playthroughs. I tired of it very quickly, I'm afraid. I'll have to see if I can remember which character it was, and snap a photo.

I love cheese wheels.

(These are not mine).
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Didn't someone in this thread do the same thing with Dwarven ingots?

Modifié par happy_daiz, 30 décembre 2013 - 09:27 .


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Abraham_uk

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Has Sheogorath taken over this thread?

Because I'm detecting a lot of CHEESE!

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Joy Divison

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^^^ That was me :wizard:

I collect something every playthrough:

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The problem with ingots is that they are so small that the thousands of ingots I have there does not look overly impressive. Right there is every dwarven ruin in Skyrim cleared with every large, small, and bent dwemer plate smelted into ingots.

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I remember my early Skyrim days looking all around for "Dwarven ore" so I could make the armor set.

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Received Skyrim Legendary Edition from a relative as a belated Christmas Gift today. PS3 version.
Any suggestions for a newbie ?:whistle:

Modifié par Angrywolves, 31 décembre 2013 - 12:25 .


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Angrywolves wrote...

Received Skyrim Legendary Edition from a relative as a belated Christmas Gift today. PS3 version.
Any suggestions for a newbie ?:whistle:

Trend Kill:

All builds (even the fancy builds) tend to be a variation of one of the following

Warrior, rogue, thief, assassin, berserker, knight, paladin, wizard, necromancer, spell sword, night blade, witchhunter, monk, vampire.

Trend Kill will give you the advice needed to make any of these combinations work.
Each build has a video dedicated to where to spend your perk points and a second video dedicated towards how to play each class.

Little wonder that Trend Kill is my number 1 recomendation.:wizard:


Also if you want to plan your build, check out this link.:wizard:

Modifié par Abraham_uk, 31 décembre 2013 - 12:32 .


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Joy Divison wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

I take it your Dragonborns love drinking contests?


Well, most of them are Nords :D



Edit: A homage to Nord Mead.

My own :wizard::

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Why are they not empty?!

Were you too busy drinking milk?  Or were you worried that Link might loot your place while you were off questing?:P

Modifié par Evil Mastered, 31 décembre 2013 - 12:49 .


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Joy Divison wrote...

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The problem with ingots is that they are so small that the thousands of ingots I have there does not look overly impressive. Right there is every dwarven ruin in Skyrim cleared with every large, small, and bent dwemer plate smelted into ingots.


Yeah with that paragraph I expected Fort Knox levels of ignots!  Still the weight of all those together will probably compare!  Nice haul regardless

B)  

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Thank you Abraham.

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Angrywolves wrote...

Thank you Abraham.


Least Useful Skills:

I can only think of one perk tree that I would describe as a waste of perk points.
Lock Picking.


Regardless of whether you're level 1 or level 100 in lock picking, you can open every lock in the game.
Yes, even master locks.

How?
With a lot of practice, and grabing every lock pick you see.


Now people say that pick pocketing is useless.
I went into the Thieves guild questline.

The number of saves I had to reload just because I had a chance of 25% of success.
There are enchantments that you can add and some potions that can make up for this too.

I wouldn't call pick pocketing useless, but perhaps your points could be spent elsewhere.

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It might be worth putting 4 perk points into it to get the poisoned and extra pockets perks.

A dark brotherhood member can have quite a bit of evulz putting poison into people's pockets, and an extra 100 points of loot carrying capacity isn't to be sniffed at.




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Universally Useful Skills?:

Alchemy - Poisons for damage and crowd control that you can add to your weapons.
Potions for restoring health, stamina and magicka. Also buffing potions that make your character stronger in battle. Also the only way to improve your damage output with destructive magic is with potions.


Smithing - Did you know that you can get the best possible armour rating with light armour. It is somewhere between 500-600. By placing perk points into light armor and only spending perk points in elven smithing and arcane blacksmith, you can reach this limit. Beyond 600, the armour rating numbers don't matter.

Dragonbone and Daedric weapons deal the most damage. If you're a rogue or warrior type character you need a good weapon. Armour trumps armour spells + robes (though plenty of mage players manage to beat legendary with this combination).


Enchanting - Add stat buffs to your armour/gear. Make your weapons deal more damage whilst introducing elemental effects. Enchanting takes a while to grasp, but if you have patience, enchanting is a great ally in your travels. Enchanting provides both defence and offence, and if you're a mage that insists on wearing robes, then enchant those robes.

Smithing, Alchemy and Enchanting helping each other: 
There are potions and enchantments that improve smithing.
There are enchantments that improve alchemy.
There are potions that improve enchanting.

All are useful for all types of fighters. Warriors, rogues and mages alike can make use of the buffs you can recieve.

Spend the time to improve your build with Alchemy, Smithing and Enchantment.
Yes that includes "Enchantment"

because this guy is not in unmodded Skyrim.



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Abraham_uk wrote...

I wouldn't call pick pocketing useless, but perhaps your points could be spent elsewhere.

It might be worth putting 4 perk points into it to get the poisoned and extra pockets perks.

A dark brotherhood member can have quite a bit of evulz putting poison into people's pockets, and an extra 100 points of loot carrying capacity isn't to be sniffed at.

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Archery and Sneak are on every single one of my DB's. It is not done because some say that the combo is overpowered, but is done because it is so much fun. Whether in Light Armor or Heavy, it is quite enjoyable to snipe scouts and guards from those towers at range; whittling the enemy down one at a time until their outer defenses are gone

And it is correct that the more recent patches made Sneak a bit more difficult. So if the scouting is done outside, waiting until after the shops close at 8pm for best results.

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blaidfiste wrote...

I remember my early Skyrim days looking all around for "Dwarven ore" so I could make the armor set.


Image IPBHA. Me too.

Yet, I felt this strange need to carry every single piece of dwarven "trash" out of every single dwemer ruin I could find, even if it was "useless."  

Yeah...it's all still sitting in a barrel somewhere in that first playthrough.

EDIT: Like many of the hording pictures above, I threw it in a room in Honeyside. If it weren't a 360 playthrough I could snap a picture of MY collection....Dwarven crap!

Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 31 décembre 2013 - 02:57 .


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While it is true Smithing, Alchemy, and Enchanting are universally useful skills, it is quite possible to be an effective character without investing a single perk or skill point in any of them.

- The game gives you more potions than you can use or need.
- Via loot and purchase, you can always have quality gear.
- At higher levels of difficulty, the smithing (specifically tempering) is very handy, but at some point becomes overkill.

Personally, I think you should identify the skill that will be most useful to your play style (typically how you plan on dealing with enemies or potentially sneak) and max it out as quickly as possible and not get distracted by dabbling in the lower parts of the smithing/enchanting/alchemy trees which really dont net that much of a benefit. Jack of all trades is master at none.

Once your main skill's tree is full, *then* round out the secondary and tertiary aspects of your character.

Modifié par Joy Divison, 31 décembre 2013 - 03:20 .


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The head choping was surprising.Wonder if we'll see anything like that in DAI.
But I like the game.

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Evil Mastered wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

I wouldn't call pick pocketing useless, but perhaps your points could be spent elsewhere.

It might be worth putting 4 perk points into it to get the poisoned and extra pockets perks.

A dark brotherhood member can have quite a bit of evulz putting poison into people's pockets, and an extra 100 points of loot carrying capacity isn't to be sniffed at.

You know what?
That is a really good rebuttal.
There you go guys. 2 reasons to place perks into pick pocketing.

Poison into people's pockets and an extra 100 points of carry capacity.

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Joy Divison wrote...

While it is true Smithing, Alchemy, and Enchanting are universally useful skills, it is quite possible to be an effective character without investing a single perk or skill point in any of them.

- The game gives you more potions than you can use or need.
- Via loot and purchase, you can always have quality gear.
- At higher levels of difficulty, the smithing (specifically tempering) is very handy, but at some point becomes overkill.

Personally, I think you should identify the skill that will be most useful to your play style (typically how you plan on dealing with enemies or potentially sneak) and max it out as quickly as possible and not get distracted by dabbling in the lower parts of the smithing/enchanting/alchemy trees which really dont net that much of a benefit. Jack of all trades is master at none.

Once your main skill's tree is full, *then* round out the secondary and tertiary aspects of your character.


I agree with this statement.

My second playthrough was less crafting intensive.
I found myself spending more perks into 1 hand and archery.

Here is the thing I found about the first playthrough.

My character had no perks in 1 hand or 2 hand, yet could pack a punch thanks to dragonbone weapons, enchantments and potions. Now had I added some perks in my melee weapons along with some stealth, then my character would have been overpowered.

Then again, Legendary difficulty is actually very, very challenging. Too challenging for me anyway. So being overpowered just means increase the difficulty.

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Personally, I recommend using one craft skill, but no more than one to keep the game challenging. And while I have no personal experience with Alchemy, based on prior posts on this thread, it also seems to apply

But true difficulty should not equate to nerfing the Player while buffing the NPC's; better for mods to improve AI, Skills, etc on both sides.

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It's two years too late, but there FINALLY is a mod out there that somewhat allows dual-wielders and sword+magic users to not have to constantly go to the favorites menu to equip the weapons/spells the want.

Awesome mod, not nearly enough downloads and favorites

I'm throwing this out there because part of the reason i went away from Skyrim for a few months was that I hated having to always go to the favorites menu to equip the proper spells/weapons.  No longer. Hit a key and *BAM*, you're done. 

Modifié par Joy Divison, 01 janvier 2014 - 12:11 .


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Elhanan wrote...

Personally, I recommend using one craft skill, but no more than one to keep the game challenging. And while I have no personal experience with Alchemy, based on prior posts on this thread, it also seems to apply


+1

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Joy Divison wrote...

It's two years too late, but there FINALLY is a mod out there that somewhat allows dual-wielders and sword+magic users to not have to constantly go to the favorites menu to equip the weapons/spells the want.

Awesome mod, not nearly enough downloads and favorites

I'm throwing this out there because part of the reason i went away from Skyrim for a few months was that I hated having to always go to the favorites menu to equip the proper spells/weapons.  No longer. Hit a key and *BAM*, your done. 


FINALLY is right. As an avid dual wielder...well...it's about time. Thanks. I'm downloading this as soon as I finish my New Vegas downloads.