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[Redneck1st]

Elhanan wrote...

Redneck1st wrote...

Well now don't make my decision any easier on which side to go with sure would have been easier if they had given us a cut and dry decision. But I think that with this one through I'll side with the Imperials and see how things go. One thing for which I wish they allowed for is that you could Name your own saves in the game. Sure would have made things a little easier.

It is not supposed to be easy. But I recommend making your decisions based on discovered In Game info rather than walkthroughs or tips; makes the playthrough memorable based on the character.

My last Altmer started as a Thalmor plant, but when he discovered the dishonor on display in the higher ranks, he chose to oppose them.

But one can make saves on the PC version; is how I was able to alter past decisions. While the name simply is labeled by location, I usually make key saves at key locations that are easy to ID.

Well that is the way for which I've been making saves as well. So far I've not sided with either one but so far I'm leaning towards the Imperials. This play through I've yet to get to Riften, solitude and several other major cities. To many other things come up that I end up tending to first. I have discovered over 300 areas though. but have yet to got to a small fraction of them this time through. I have bought land and built a house in Falkreath. and I am than there as well as for owning a house in whiterun and Markeath where I am also thane.

Now I've done markeath a few times and did the prison mine quest each time. But this time through I found out by accident that there is a way to get both rewards from the quest. The ring as well as for the armor.

[Elhanan]

I recommend to not become quest driven, as they often repeat in other playthroughs. Use your character as a way to achieve short and long range goals; establish a personality and story that allow you options. Allow the unfolding game help mold your character, and achieve the goals you created.

There are a few mods by one author that help in allowing the Player to better control the game. Timing Is Everything and Quest Eraser and two which I use, but he offers more.

[LobselVith8]

Joy Divison wrote...

What do you folks do with the hundreds of thousands of septims you accumulate through all this crafting and selling?

Take Eola for a night out in Markarth? 

Honestly? Nothing, and yet, I keep picking things up and selling them to my Daedric merchant. What he does with those items in Oblivion... I have no idea. Maybe he also has OCD, too.

[Abraham_uk]

simfamSP wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

Have you heard about the controversy surrounding the Redguard race?

No. And I don't want to know. Because inevitabley it'll be stupid...

But I just HAVE TO KNOW!

WHYYYY??!

Watch this video.


It's because the Redguard are not of the same lineage as the Breton, Nord and Imperial races.
Suggesting that they are "different" and "other". This caused some people to cry foul.
The guy in the video was claiming Redguards reinforced stereotypes.

Modifié par Abraham_uk, 30 janvier 2014 - 09:34 .

[Splinter Cell 108]

Abraham_uk wrote...

Watch this video.


It's because the Redguard are not of the same lineage as the Breton, Nord and Imperial races.
Suggesting that they are "different" and "other". This caused some people to cry foul.

I doubt Bethesda did that with racist intentions. Some people just like to dramatize, pick apart, and look at everything way too close. I always found that characteristic about the Redguard, the most intriguing, they are one of the most succesful races in Tamriel, nearly conquered all of it as well, had it not been for Tiber Septim, it would have been the Redguard who would have ruled instead of the Empire. 

There is one thing to take into mind when speaking about racism in Tamriel, every race has racism in some way or another and they all think they're the superior race. There's a reason why they have had centuries of conflict with each other.

If anything TES in fact does not reinforce any stereotype about anything, especially with the Redguard, the most accomplished warriors in Tamriel and the only race who has succesfully given the boot to the Thalmor. Really, people should just stop looking for things that aren't there, especially when it comes to video games. 

Modifié par Splinter Cell 108, 30 janvier 2014 - 09:36 .

[Evil]

Abraham_uk wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

Have you heard about the controversy surrounding the Redguard race?

No. And I don't want to know. Because inevitabley it'll be stupid...

But I just HAVE TO KNOW!

WHYYYY??!

Watch this video.


It's because the Redguard are not of the same lineage as the Breton, Nord and Imperial races.
Suggesting that they are "different" and "other". This caused some people to cry foul.
The guy in the video was claiming Redguards reinforced stereotypes.

Part of the evidence given that redguard are racist was that they have less inteligence (-10 in oblivion).
www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Redguard

The guy in the video conveniently forgot to mention that nords (white guys) also have less inteligence (-10 on oblivion).
www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Nord

He also goes on to say that cole train from GoW is a racist character.

He's actually based on the personality of Lester "The Mighty Rasta" Speight, a former American football player.
gearsofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Lester_Speight

You might remember him from the Terry Tate: Office Linebacker adverts.
www.youtube.com/watch

That took 120 seconds on google to research, pity that guy on the video didn't bother.

[Abraham_uk]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

Watch this video.


It's because the Redguard are not of the same lineage as the Breton, Nord and Imperial races.
Suggesting that they are "different" and "other". This caused some people to cry foul.

I doubt Bethesda did that with racist intentions. Some people just like to dramatize, pick apart, and look at everything way too close. I always found that characteristic about the Redguard, the most intriguing, they are one of the most succesful races in Tamriel, nearly conquered all of it as well, had it not been for Tiber Septim, it would have been the Redguard who would have ruled instead of the Empire. 

There is one thing to take into mind when speaking about racism in Tamriel, every race has racism in some way or another and they all think they're the superior race. There's a reason why they have had centuries of conflict with each other.

If anything TES in fact does not reinforce any stereotype about anything, especially with the Redguard, the most accomplished warriors in Tamriel and the only race who has succesfully given the boot to the Thalmor. Really, people should just stop looking for things that aren't there, especially when it comes to video games. 

I personally love the Redguard race.
They have an amazing unique culture that you wouldn't find in real life.
Actually a facinating part of Elderscrolls Lore.

I agree with what you said.

Modifié par Abraham_uk, 30 janvier 2014 - 10:38 .

[blaidfiste]

Evil Mastered wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

Have you heard about the controversy surrounding the Redguard race?

No. And I don't want to know. Because inevitabley it'll be stupid...

But I just HAVE TO KNOW!

WHYYYY??!

Watch this video.


It's because the Redguard are not of the same lineage as the Breton, Nord and Imperial races.
Suggesting that they are "different" and "other". This caused some people to cry foul.
The guy in the video was claiming Redguards reinforced stereotypes.

Part of the evidence given that redguard are racist was that they have less inteligence (-10 in oblivion).
www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Redguard

The guy in the video conveniently forgot to mention that nords (white guys) also have less inteligence (-10 on oblivion).
www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Nord

He also goes on to say that cole train from GoW is a racist character.

He's actually based on the personality of Lester "The Mighty Rasta" Speight, a former American football player.
gearsofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Lester_Speight

You might remember him from the Terry Tate: Office Linebacker adverts.
www.youtube.com/watch

That took 120 seconds on google to research, pity that guy on the video didn't bother.

Yeah that video was bad.  8 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

[Addai]

I think I actually lost brain cells watching that video.

News flash, genius: All human and elven races come from the same super-race, the Ehlnofey. All of them. The Hist are probably the only race that are their very own. So Elder Scrolls is tree-ist. I AM OUTRAGED

[The Hierophant]

The elves and humans are related? This is just wrong.

[Barbarossa2010]

Evil Mastered wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

Have you heard about the controversy surrounding the Redguard race?

No. And I don't want to know. Because inevitabley it'll be stupid...

But I just HAVE TO KNOW!

WHYYYY??!

Watch this video.


It's because the Redguard are not of the same lineage as the Breton, Nord and Imperial races.
Suggesting that they are "different" and "other". This caused some people to cry foul.
The guy in the video was claiming Redguards reinforced stereotypes.

Part of the evidence given that redguard are racist was that they have less inteligence (-10 in oblivion).
www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Redguard

The guy in the video conveniently forgot to mention that nords (white guys) also have less inteligence (-10 on oblivion).
www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Nord

He also goes on to say that cole train from GoW is a racist character.

He's actually based on the personality of Lester "The Mighty Rasta" Speight, a former American football player.
gearsofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Lester_Speight

You might remember him from the Terry Tate: Office Linebacker adverts.
www.youtube.com/watch

That took 120 seconds on google to research, pity that guy on the video didn't bother.

Cole Train...a racist character? That's bull$#!+.  Dude went way off the rails with that one. Cole is the best character in the whole Gears series. Everyone, I mean everyone that followed the franchise, loves him.  Oh, and Lester as Terry Tate Office Linebacker is pure win. I still LOL every time I see it.

Just another dude scraping at things to be offended by.

[Addai]

The Hierophant wrote...

The elves and humans are related? This is just wrong.

Heh, yes, but if it makes you feel any better, they've been enemies since before they were mortal.

The bottom line is you shouldn't call yourself a game commentator unless you're going to play the games you're commenting on and know what in Oblivion you're talking about. It just makes things worse to throw accusations willy nilly when there are actual cases of bad taste and questionable design choices to call out. But this is basically highbrow social commentary these days- pick an interest group and start firing off grievances in any direction. Because it's "for a good cause," it's not supposed to matter if your criticisms are accurate or not.

[Splinter Cell 108]

Now that the Redguard were mentioned. I've always wondered why the Crowns and Forebears are always fighting each other. Is it some petty nonsense or is there a real foundation for their conflict?

[The Hierophant]

Addai67 wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

The elves and humans are related? This is just wrong.

Heh, yes, but if it makes you feel any better, they've been enemies since before they were mortal.

I know. It's only racial intolerance from dealing with the Thalmor.

The bottom line is you shouldn't call yourself a game commentator unless you're going to play the games you're commenting on and know what in Oblivion you're talking about. It just makes things worse to throw accusations willy nilly when there are actual cases of bad taste and questionable design choices to call out. But this is basically highbrow social commentary these days- pick an interest group and start firing off grievances in any direction. Because it's "for a good cause," it's not supposed to matter if your criticisms are accurate or not.

Exactly, bingo on the bolded.

Though the inaccuracy of the Redguard, AC, GoW bits were distracting, there's some truth in SF's character design.

[Mr.House]

Abraham_uk wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

Have you heard about the controversy surrounding the Redguard race?

No. And I don't want to know. Because inevitabley it'll be stupid...

But I just HAVE TO KNOW!

WHYYYY??!

Watch this video.


It's because the Redguard are not of the same lineage as the Breton, Nord and Imperial races.
Suggesting that they are "different" and "other". This caused some people to cry foul.
The guy in the video was claiming Redguards reinforced stereotypes.

Are you ****en kidding me? So because the redguards did not come from Atomora, had sex with elves and gave birth to the bretons and migrated from SKyrim to the center, that makes them racist!? WHAT

Redguards are not even close to being racist.

[Giggles_Manically]

Wow that video.....


That is the face it gives me...seriously.

[Addai]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Now that the Redguard were mentioned. I've always wondered why the Crowns and Forebears are always fighting each other. Is it some petty nonsense or is there a real foundation for their conflict?

In Yokuda there were different warring factions, hence why they had to leave, because it got nuked by the sword singers. But it was an entire continent, so there were bound to be conflicts. This is Tamriel after all. Atmora had its civil wars, too.

In Tamriel, the factionalism developed into a conflict about traditionalism (Crowns) vs. progressivism and accommodation to the empire (Forebears).

As I'm sure you all know and the guy could have found out with twenty seconds on google, the stat called Intelligence in the older games basically meant magic aptitude. Races that don't practice magic don't have bonuses in magicka. That's all. Nords and redguard are the least magically inclined of all the races.  The stat doesn't even exist anymore. But no need to let inconvenient facts stop an argument.

[Mr.House]

Redguards, nords and orcs have always been the warrior focused, Dunmer, Breton and Altmer magic and Bosmer, Khajiit and Argonian are the stealthiest. OF course you can build you character no matter what, but that is how the races are normally divided.

Imperials have always been the balance race.

Modifié par Mr.House, 31 janvier 2014 - 06:19 .

[Abraham_uk]

Mr.House wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

Have you heard about the controversy surrounding the Redguard race?

No. And I don't want to know. Because inevitabley it'll be stupid...

But I just HAVE TO KNOW!

WHYYYY??!

Watch this video.


It's because the Redguard are not of the same lineage as the Breton, Nord and Imperial races.
Suggesting that they are "different" and "other". This caused some people to cry foul.
The guy in the video was claiming Redguards reinforced stereotypes.

Are you ****en kidding me? So because the redguards did not come from Atomora, had sex with elves and gave birth to the bretons and migrated from SKyrim to the center, that makes them racist!? WHAT

Redguards are not even close to being racist.

As daft as it sounds, that sadly is what some people believe.

The guy in the video did say he was going to "paint with a very broad brush".
Was that brush a bit too broad then?


4 minutes in he says "let's not forget the Redguard of The Elderscrolls Series. Black gypsies with a rage problem and a low IQ". He then shows a clip of a dunmer housecarl dancing.

I am quoting someone elses opinion here just to let you know.

Yeah. Not really sure how Redguards are racist, but that guy in the video seems to think so.

Modifié par Abraham_uk, 31 janvier 2014 - 08:00 .

[Sigma Tauri]

That's funny. The way Redguards are actually portrayed in lore, it's one where black people conquered white people and drove them from their homeland. The Hoonding, for example, is a god of Make Way. I'd say Redguards are one of the most empowered races in the Elder Scrolls.

[Elhanan]

Yes; I know that ESO is not a fave topic in this thread. That said, I have to applaud the VO that is used in Skyrim and for the upcoming MMO. Found this today, and am extremely pleased at these choices:

[Splinter Cell 108]

Addai67 wrote...
In Yokuda there were different warring factions, hence why they had to leave, because it got nuked by the sword singers. But it was an entire continent, so there were bound to be conflicts. This is Tamriel after all. Atmora had its civil wars, too.

In Tamriel, the factionalism developed into a conflict about traditionalism (Crowns) vs. progressivism and accommodation to the empire (Forebears).

Yes but out of all the human races, the Nords seem to be the ones with more unity if you ask me. Although the current civil war is a contradiction that, but then again, is it just a civil war? To me it seems more like a conflict between the Empire and Skyrim. Its not a typical civil war. On the other hand the Bretons had been battling each other for generations, or at least their different kingdoms have been doing that, until the Empire made them stop. The Imperials alwasy seem to start fighting each other whenever an Empire dies out, and then there's the whole Nibenay and Colovia thing. 

[Mr.House]

I would say the Redguards are the most powerful race, well at least now in the current time period of TES. They did something no one thought was possible, forcing the Thalmor out of their land and forcing the Thalmor to create a treaty, no other country or race had done that. That right here shows not only the strength but intelligence of the race, you don't win a war just by swinging your sword after all

[Mr.House]

Elhanan wrote...

Yes; I know that ESO is not a fave topic in this thread. That said, I have to applaud the VO that is used in Skyrim and for the upcoming MMO. Found this today, and am extremely pleased at these choices:

I loved Israns voice in Dawnguard

[Addai]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Yes but out of all the human races, the Nords seem to be the ones with more unity if you ask me. Although the current civil war is a contradiction that, but then again, is it just a civil war? To me it seems more like a conflict between the Empire and Skyrim. Its not a typical civil war. On the other hand the Bretons had been battling each other for generations, or at least their different kingdoms have been doing that, until the Empire made them stop. The Imperials alwasy seem to start fighting each other whenever an Empire dies out, and then there's the whole Nibenay and Colovia thing.

The Nords had the War of Succession and the Potema conflicts. Those were pretty big.  Since then they've been pretty peaceful, that's true.

Salon repeated that guy's slander of Elder Scrolls, though ultimately they said he was using extreme language and that's counter-productive.  Not that they're heavy-hitting journalism, either.