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[IronSabbath88]

I'm actually really glad they decided to use Fallout's lockpicking system. It generally feels more like you're actually picking the lock.

[Zeus_Deus]

KenKenpachi wrote...

Zeus_Deus wrote...

KenKenpachi wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

naughty99 wrote...
If you really hated Oblivion, I would imagine you are probably not going to enjoy Skyrim.

Don't kill my dreams!

The game is pretty much a solid copy of Oblivion with some cutting back, so chances are if you liked morrowind more you'll hate Skyrim.

Also @ druss, could be either, heck maybe it does seem like an improvement from Oblivion, which it is. Still maybe not what you expect.

I liked both, just like the majority of ES fans.

Prefer the quests/exploration of MW, prefer the combat of OB.

Why do people like you always automatically assume that people can't like both MW and OB?

Oh sure you can. But if you look at the Forums for those games, most of your volcal fans sure don't

I like the story in Morrowind, but between all the stat bouncing, poor graphics, mechancs, and other issues I just did not even get far in morrowind. A good story in an RPG can only cover up for so much. I liked all the mechancis for Oblivion though, but honestly if not for the sidequests I doubt I would have finished it either.

Well, according to Steams own statistics, Oblivion is still in the top 50 games currently played - that speaks volumes.....for a single player game, 5 years after its release!

Seems these haters on the forums are the vocal minority.

[Yrkoon]

Zeus_Deus wrote...


Well, according to Steams own statistics, Oblivion is still in the top 50 games currently played - that speaks volumes.....for a single player game, 5 years after its release!

  LOL  What?

It doesn't   speak volumes.  In fact, it doesn't mean a damn thing.    Steam tracks  currently played games  that *they* sold.  But  The vast majority of Oblivion's sales weren't   via steam anyway, so there's exactly NO WAY AT ALL to determine, via steam's statistics, which of the two games is getting more current play, or which is more popular, or which is better, or whatever you're trying to argue.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 16 septembre 2011 - 02:58 .

[KenKenpachi]

As much as I don't agree with Yrkoon, he is correct on that score. But I still prefer Oblivion much more to Morrowind. Hell even if a million copies were sold versus a thousand its not the sign of a better game so much as marketing. Though in the end its all up to personal taste, and from various forums even this one it seems more liked Oblivion than Morrowind.

[Bad King]

chunkyman wrote...

Nice! Take this cookie, baked to look like an alien's head-

Also, are Alteration unlocking spells confirmed?

[Bad King]

Zeus_Deus wrote...

KenKenpachi wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

naughty99 wrote...
If you really hated Oblivion, I would imagine you are probably not going to enjoy Skyrim.

Don't kill my dreams!

The game is pretty much a solid copy of Oblivion with some cutting back, so chances are if you liked morrowind more you'll hate Skyrim.

Also @ druss, could be either, heck maybe it does seem like an improvement from Oblivion, which it is. Still maybe not what you expect.

I liked both, just like the majority of ES fans.

Prefer the quests/exploration of MW, prefer the combat of OB.

Why do people like you always automatically assume that people can't like both MW and OB?

I actually generally preferred Oblivion's quests. I thought that the guild missions were a massive step up in Oblivion, particularly the Dark Brotherhood/Thieves Guild.

For example in Morrowind Morag Tong (the assassin guild) missions mostly consisted of walking up to someone, beating them to death and then presenting a writ to the guards to remove your bounty. Whereas the Dark Brotherhood missions ussually encouraged being sneaky, tactful, and deceptive in your assassinations. The same is true in the Thieves Guild missions.

[naughty99]

Yrkoon wrote...

Zeus_Deus wrote...


Well, according to Steams own statistics, Oblivion is still in the top 50 games currently played - that speaks volumes.....for a single player game, 5 years after its release!

  LOL  What?

It doesn't   speak volumes.  In fact, it doesn't mean a damn thing.    Steam tracks  currently played games  that *they* sold.  But  The vast majority of Oblivion's sales weren't   via steam anyway, so there's exactly NO WAY AT ALL to determine, via steam's statistics, which of the two games is getting more current play, or which is more popular, or which is better, or whatever you're trying to argue.

I think most would agree that thanks to hundreds of hours of content as well as a very robust modding community, both Oblivion and Morrowind have had relatively long shelf lives compared to many other single player games. After all if you install numerous mods and all the DLC, you end up with perhaps 1000 hours of content, not to mention the massive total conversion mods like Nehrim and Andoran, which effectively provide an entirely new game.

I only started playing Morrowind relatively recently. It took a little time to adjust to the controls, but I have been enjoying it very much so far. It seems to be the sort of game that stands the test of time as I'm playing the vanilla version 9 years after it was released.

I also bought the Gothic series via Steam some time ago. So far, I have only tried Gothic 1, which was released one year before Morrowind. I have heard a lot of great things about this series, so I was really looking forward to it, however, I have struggled a great deal with the controls and key bindings for Gothic. I've installed texture mods and the community patch, but it's very difficult to do basic things like take loot from a corpse or a chest, etc., to the point where I am about ready to throw in the towel on this one. I'm hoping Gothic 2 and 3 have better controls for PC players who use keyboard and mouse.

Modifié par naughty99, 16 septembre 2011 - 06:17 .

[Bryy_Miller]

Montezuma IV wrote...

Thank *whoever* that Bethesda Employees have no lives. Imagine how much their games would have not worked out if they did. BioWare employees unfortunately have lives (though they probably lost them in the making of Origins, and recently unearthed them).

Ignorant statement is ignorant.

[KickBong]

jreezy wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Montezuma IV wrote...

Thank *whoever* that Bethesda Employees have no lives. Imagine how much their games would have not worked out if they did. BioWare employees unfortunately have lives (though they probably lost them in the making of Origins, and recently unearthed them).

Ignorant statement is ignorant.

Pretty much this.

Yup. If Bethesda employees had no lives. Bethesda games would be bug-free upon release.

Modifié par KickBong, 16 septembre 2011 - 11:11 .

[AventuroLegendary]

 Finally seeing some more footage
I also found this... 

[Zeus_Deus]

Yrkoon wrote...

Zeus_Deus wrote...


Well, according to Steams own statistics, Oblivion is still in the top 50 games currently played - that speaks volumes.....for a single player game, 5 years after its release!

  LOL  What?

It doesn't   speak volumes.  In fact, it doesn't mean a damn thing.    Steam tracks  currently played games  that *they* sold.  But  The vast majority of Oblivion's sales weren't   via steam anyway, so there's exactly NO WAY AT ALL to determine, via steam's statistics, which of the two games is getting more current play, or which is more popular, or which is better, or whatever you're trying to argue.

What I'm trying to say is that if you look at the trends on Steam as a reflection on gaming habits in general (a fair assumption), then Oblivion is still a very popular game.

Put it this way, if Steam only accounted for a small fraction of total Oblivion sales - yet given all the other different games sold and played on Steam, for Oblivion to still make the top 50..........know what I mean?!

[chunkyman]

jreezy wrote...


Cookies:

And here is your reward kind sir.




I got more, but this time I require cheesecake.

[Redneck1st]

Well now I look at it this way there will never be a game out there made that makes 100% of the gamers happy there will always be haters for a game or gaming copany for whatever reason. But for the haters there is no reason to come around and flaming on the ones of us for which like the game for whatever reason. Heck I didn't care for DA2 but you don't see me over there bashing the game or the company. DA was a great game where as DA 2 fell short in many ways and I'm not the only one that thinks that either.

True Oblivion might have it's faults but I for one will have to admit that it's allot better game than that of DA2. But yet if I'm not mistaken didn't Oblivion come out around the same time as DA? And yet you would have thought that with DA 2 it would have been a marked improvement over DA but it fell short in lots of ways. TW 2 was even better than DA2.

So if you want to be a hater for whatever reasons of your own thats all well and good. But don't come into a chat and bash on the ones for which like that for which you don't.

[chunkyman]

 I'm sleepy so I'll post this before I lose the link, but I still demand cheesecake!

Modifié par chunkyman, 17 septembre 2011 - 05:32 .

[Dhiro]

Redneck1st wrote...

Well now I look at it this way there will never be a game out there made that makes 100% of the gamers happy there will always be haters for a game or gaming copany for whatever reason. But for the haters there is no reason to come around and flaming on the ones of us for which like the game for whatever reason. Heck I didn't care for DA2 but you don't see me over there bashing the game or the company. DA was a great game where as DA 2 fell short in many ways and I'm not the only one that thinks that either.

True Oblivion might have it's faults but I for one will have to admit that it's allot better game than that of DA2. But yet if I'm not mistaken didn't Oblivion come out around the same time as DA? And yet you would have thought that with DA 2 it would have been a marked improvement over DA but it fell short in lots of ways. TW 2 was even better than DA2.

So if you want to be a hater for whatever reasons of your own thats all well and good. But don't come into a chat and bash on the ones for which like that for which you don't.

Eh, I disagree.

[Bryy_Miller]

KickBong wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Montezuma IV wrote...

Thank *whoever* that Bethesda Employees have no lives. Imagine how much their games would have not worked out if they did. BioWare employees unfortunately have lives (though they probably lost them in the making of Origins, and recently unearthed them).

Ignorant statement is ignorant.

Pretty much this.

Yup. If Bethesda employees had no lives. Bethesda games would be bug-free upon release.

Missed the point, but funny.

[Haplose]

Dhiro wrote...

Redneck1st wrote...

Well now I look at it this way there will never be a game out there made that makes 100% of the gamers happy there will always be haters for a game or gaming copany for whatever reason. But for the haters there is no reason to come around and flaming on the ones of us for which like the game for whatever reason. Heck I didn't care for DA2 but you don't see me over there bashing the game or the company. DA was a great game where as DA 2 fell short in many ways and I'm not the only one that thinks that either.

True Oblivion might have it's faults but I for one will have to admit that it's allot better game than that of DA2. But yet if I'm not mistaken didn't Oblivion come out around the same time as DA? And yet you would have thought that with DA 2 it would have been a marked improvement over DA but it fell short in lots of ways. TW 2 was even better than DA2.

So if you want to be a hater for whatever reasons of your own thats all well and good. But don't come into a chat and bash on the ones for which like that for which you don't.

Eh, I disagree.

So do I. Well, at least DA2 has some kind of a story and combat that is rather fun, if way too frequent and repetetive. Oh, and the character development mechanics make some sense, compared to Oblivion's counter-intuitive system. The only major disadvantage compared to Olbivion would be strong linearity vs open world sandbox. It's not like Oblivion is lacking the DA2 notorious copy-paste dungeons.

[MorrigansLove]

Does anything think the story could be as good as Origins?