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[Eliamor]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Hey its Giles.  Its the smell isn't it?

LOL I just read the GI preview of this and I am so excited its insane.  So going to be a Argonian

Yes, I admit, it's mostly the smell. That and the sound when you turn the page.

I still have problems figuring out what kind of character I'm gonna make for my first playthrough.
Right now it lean towards a dark magician named Myrcroft (as a kudos to the Avernum-games). 

[Chromie]

If this happened I'd so buy it.

[naughty99]

That quote about the Wii U is from E3 about 4 or 5 months ago.

If the Wii U can handle rendering games at 1920x1080, even if it cannot handle other settings like Anisotropic Filtering, etc., it will clearly be the best choice if you must run Skyrim on a console.

I seem to recall, Ringo, you mentioned once that you have an AMD 5770 card in your desktop - that should handle Skyrim just fine.

Modifié par naughty99, 24 septembre 2011 - 12:43 .

[Bryy_Miller]

Redneck1st wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Redneck1st wrote...
 So you're going to wait and see if you can buy a new graphics card so you can get the game for free? 

Basically, yeah. The DX:HR deal doesn't expire until New Year's Eve, anyhow. So I have options.

How much is that card going to set you back if you don't mind my asking? Is your card that old that you need a new one?  As for me I don't plan on getting a new card unless I've got no other choice and from the looks of it I'm not going to have to. But I'll wait and see when I get Skyrim if that is truly the case. After all money is a little tight right now.

Considering I'm building a computer, I most likely need a new one. I'm keeping my Mac, but for video editing.

[Chromie]

naughty99 wrote...

That quote about the Wii U is from E3 about 4 or 5 months ago.

If the Wii U can handle rendering games at 1920x1080, even if it cannot handle other settings like Anisotropic Filtering, etc., it will clearly be the best choice if you must run Skyrim on a console.

I seem to recall, Ringo, you mentioned once that you have an AMD 5770 card in your desktop - that should handle Skyrim just fine.

Getting it for a console has nothing to do with my PC build. I plan on building a new computer once BF3 for the best deals but teh Wii U sure seems innovative if it had a triple AAA title and the tablet/controller was actually used in a unique way I'd gladly buy it. If anything looking at items in 3D, reading a book or doing a puzzle would feel much different.


D'aaawww Naughty you remeber my little HD 5770

Modifié par Ringo12, 24 septembre 2011 - 04:27 .

[chunkyman]

 Moose confirmed via leaked gameplay footage!



*Real images/videos available upon deep fried strawberry ice cream.

[AventuroLegendary]

 
All I could find 

[Sigma Tauri]

Seen the footage.

Better question is can you attack Alduin while riding a moose?

[chunkyman]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

 
All I could find 

Good enough! 

The epic moose is near the end. Linky.

[AventuroLegendary]

I will ride a moose, except it will fly leaving a thick trail of flames, shooting lasers out of it's eyes while I shoot arrows of supreme judgement! Skyrim... Make it happen

[gammameggon]

As soon as I escape from my execution/complete the tutorial, I'm heading straight north as far as I can go. I might make a stop at a shop and sell some things, but I'm just heading straight north. I'm going to go slow looking for loot...hopefully a staff is accessible in the tutorial like Oblivion.

[gammameggon]

I'm lucky in a way....I'm doing a first run-through of Fallout 3 up until Skyrim.

Can't believe I didn't like it the first time I tried it. I'm fully immersed now and I haven't even been into Washington D.C. yet. Great game.

[The Love Runner]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

I will ride a moose, except it will fly leaving a thick trail of flames, shooting lasers out of it's eyes while I shoot arrows of supreme judgement! Skyrim... Make it happen

Aye, and we shall have an army of Canadian Mounties riding on their own mooses as we head to the depths of the Underworld!

[Bad King]

monkeycamoran wrote...

Bad King wrote...

It's most likely they mean daedra. I won't be joining them though, they sound suspiciously like religious zealots. I'd rather serve the daedra princes - although princes such as Dagon and Molag Bal are bad, not all of the daedra princes are bad, and most of their followers that you come across are non-violent.

I mean, it's not as if Meridia helped Umaril send her Aurorans at you...

She also has a hatred of the undead and is eager to stamp out the evil practice of necromancy in Tamriel. Most daedra princes in the Elder Scrolls universe are far from being black and white.

[KenKenpachi]

naughty99 wrote...

That quote about the Wii U is from E3 about 4 or 5 months ago.

If the Wii U can handle rendering games at 1920x1080, even if it cannot handle other settings like Anisotropic Filtering, etc., it will clearly be the best choice if you must run Skyrim on a console.

I seem to recall, Ringo, you mentioned once that you have an AMD 5770 card in your desktop - that should handle Skyrim just fine.

I rather doubt that. From what I heard its shapping up to be just equal to the current Gen compititors. And whats that matter anyways? I mean from the demos and fotages we've seen it seem to suffer no frame rate issues at all on the more "primitive consoles".

[naughty99]

Here is the most detailed first hand impression description I've seen yet (from someone who got to play the demo at Eurogamer):

• While waiting I saw one player break into a house and on one of the counters was a book, when the player approached the book it had the option "Press A to forge business numbers" - part of a quest?
• Sometimes, the last kill in a group may trigger a slo-mo kill cam, similar to the kill cam in Fallout where the camera focuses on the dying enemy.
• Whiterun is gorgeous, lots of fountains and pools.
• Akatosh and Talos have these tiny shrines found around the provice, they appear to be portable shrines or something that followers carry around with them.
• Found some Thalmor Soldiers - clad in some very cool black armour.
• '40 bounty added to Falkreath' from attacking Imerial Solider, 1000 for killing him.
• Underwater is a lot like Fallout, but worse to be honest. You know how in Fallout you can rest the camer directly on water level and see everything clear as day underwater, but if you go under there's a green tint? Exactly like that in this; although the shift is actually more noticeable, that 'clear as day' thing is visible every single time you dive, looks incredibly ugly - I just hope thats one thing they're workig on still. On the surface the water looks good, but the ripples are the exact same as in Fallout. At one point I also saw the 'shimmering' from the sun pop in on the water, as though it's a texture.
• Saw a cool takedown where Dovahkiin shield bashes someone, which puts them on their back foot, then impales them with the sword (Third person).
• I watched one play walk up to a deer in the wilderness, the player got out his axe and hacked at it's face; the deer did absolutely nothing and stood there until it died. Similarly another player cast a flamethrower on a chicken in Riverwood which did nothing until it flopped down dead.
• Physics are similar to Oblivion, on player was shooting arrows at a cart full of cabbages and each one went flying with each shot, easily flying higher than the surrounding buildings (Riverwood).
• Nords have something called Battlecry which makes enemies flee.
• Sleeping in a bed gives you rested, sleeping in an owned bed gives you well rested.
• Argonians have something called ____ Hist King (Sorry, terrible with names - it was something about the Hist King, it's a racial power like the Nords Battlecry) - it allows them to regenerate health quickly.
• Double handed flamethrower is beyond awesome, easily the most powerful thing in the demo - wiped out a trio of bandits in seconds.
• Stumbled upon a small funeral ceremony going on in a tiny, isolated graveyard in the woods. Was being held by a Priest of Arkay.
• No Dragons in the demo. Bethesda staff said it's because they would totally destroy any unexperienced player, and the only reason Todd could handle it was because he had a really souped up character.
• Some NPC's are just generic race NPC's - found a few called just 'Imperial' etc.
• Fighting a Necromancer; he summoned a magical shield that covered his front - while this shield was up he was still able to cast magic and attack.
• Rotating pillar puzzle in a cave, similar to the one later on in Uncharted 2.
• Mentioned in one load screen are Penitus Oculatos; they are the organization protecting the emperor, the Blades have long been disbanded.
• The Oblivion crisis is mentioned on a load screen, when mentioning Mehrunes Dagon; Daedric Prince of Destruction.
• When standing on a high up rock, I noticed that models in the distance are very low poly and the ground had very noticable repeated textures.
• Some screen tearing present.
• The demo actually locked up on me once, I was attacking some people in an inn; as I turned to get out the door, I was stuck in an infinite load loop and a Bethesda staff member had to reset the console.
• Some very random framerate drops, saw one player walking for like 20 seconds at what looked like 5fps.
• Demo was running at 1080p according one Beth staff member.
• Found a small cottage belonging to an old woman living alone in the middle of nowhere, I killed her and was able to sleep in her bed. Waking up gave me 'rested', a golden aura swirled around Dovahkiin upon awaking, like a cross between absorbing a dragon soul and something out of Dragon Ball Z. Sparkles too.
• There's a Bosmer Archer in Riverwood who will train you in Archery.
• Caves are a lot more complex, with multiple levels and paths. One I found had several bridges lowered with levers and the whole place was being patrolled by Bandits, perfectly set up for stealth or archery.
• Stealth is actually a lot better than seen in the demo when the NPC's are given a couple seconds to react. Two Bandits in a cave, one walking down the same pathway as me, facing away, and another walking along an adjacent catwalk above but further back. Shot at the one on the first floor, missed - the eye opened slightly, #1 shouted what was that, then #2 shouted down asking what the problem was? #2 ran down and #1 ran up, so they met eachother halfway and then stuck together, checking the place out and investigating the area the arrow came from with weapons drawn, the eye opening slightly.
• Mountains, sadly, DO guide the player. On my first play, I tried to turn around and head back past the start point and head North East - hit a bunch of unclimbable rocks and tried pushing around them. Before I knew it, I was entering Riverwood from the back on accident; totally unintentionally.
• Magic is bought as 'Spell Tome' books; each has a different model/cover (each school does at least, didn't see enough to know for sure).
• Potions have different bottles; Red = Health, Blue = Magicka, Green = Stamina. Posions are the same, but with a tattered white label around them; eg. Poision of damage fatigue is green for example. Not sure about any other types outside of hurt health, magicka and stamina.
• Alchemy Stations, Forges, Anvils and workbenches all play a canned animation of Dovahkiin working while a menu overlays with what you can make and what you need to make it. The animation of Dovahkiin working plays even if you're not making anything/have no ingredients. Quite dissapointing.
• Wood mill; take a log from the pile (same animation for Dovahkiin as the dude seen doing it in the demo), when its on the track, pull the lever to the right and it moves down the track to the now moving saw, which slices it in half and it falls off the back onto a log pile; not sure what you do with it from there, there was a 'Press A: Activate' on the cut log, but pressing it told me there is no log in the mill.
• As mentioned before; doors do animate when you open them - nice touch, looks a lot better.
• The load screens are cool, but long. One cool one featured a very muscular Orc who had no upper body armour whatsoever and was covered in blood, screaming at the screen (looked like a battlecry or something).
• Daedric sword seen in a load screen is bad ass.
• Giants are relatively hard to kill, high HP.
• Group of mercinaries/soldiers attacking a Giant. They had a cool name but I don't remember it is (sorry, I'm terrible with names. I just know it wasn't storm cloak). Offered me to join when I helped them kill the giant, "we'll take our offer elsewhere then…" she said as I pressed B and walked off without answering.
• Quite a lot of people found that Black Hand door.
• Broken Tusk Keep is an abandoned fort, housing Bandits - seems like some sort of safehouse.
• Paying the fine to guards immediately throws you into a load screen and you then appear in "Dragon____" (Another name I forgot, Dragonclaw Hall? something along those lines) - it seemed like a courthouse or something, grand, high ceilings and big pillars. Didn't get to check it out though as this happened when I was told time was up.
• Death is like fallout, you fall down dead in 3rd person slomo.
• Horses are super hard to control, seemed like the left and right stick control the direction? I couldn't keep it straight at all. Maybe I just need to get used to it, but it's definitely not like RDR where you can hop on and you're used to it pretty easily. The sprint button is gallop for the horse.
• Menus can be tricky to navigate without learning them first. Pressing B brings up the '4 point menu' - pressing left takes you to Magic, if you want to go back you can't press B as that just closes the whole menu and puts you back in game. To go back you have to press left again (the menu pushes right, on the left side, so pressing left is like pushing it back if that makes sense). This sounds relatively simple, but it's then entirely flipped for the other side, so it can be a bit clunky to navigate.
• The Map goes very slightly darker when used at night, not by too much though. The local map is just like in Oblivion but it's now white on black.
• Nightime actually felt safer than daytime, less animal enemies.
• Killed a shopkeeper, went into a nearby inn (sword was still drawn), everyone inside attacked me - calling me a murderer. So I guess it was less about the drawn sword, and more about the murder they somehow know about from next door.
• Weight slider affects muscle, not fat. Empty makes you super skinny, and full makes you quite stocky but very muscular.
• Some awful, murky textures. Some slow texture load in the inventory, eg; bringing up a shield and it didn't have the fully loaded texture, the texture didn't load until it had been equipped and in gameplay for a couple seconds.
• Didn't really have time to memorize perk trees, saw some of Destruction though and it was mostly stuff like "25% more damage from fire attacks", same for ice etc.
• Bought summon zombie spell tome from a shopkeeper in Riverwood, didn't have enough Magic to use it though. He recommended I go to the College of Winterhold to learn some better spells; put the marker on my map.
• The Swimming animation is the same as Fallout it seems.
• 'Studded' armour type at forge, along with Iron, Fur, Hide and Leather.
• Most common races were easily Orcs and Nord. Encountered no Argonians or Dunmer.
• Stamina runs out very fast when sprintng, slow to regenerate. It was quite annoying at first, but I guess it's why it needs to be levelled. I think Stamina is going to be a LOT more important this time around for those who want to travel on foot.
• No light rays ('god rays') through trees or anything like that.
• Slight delay when navigating perk tree - it's as though you have to wait for the 'camera' to follow where you want to go and need to drag it along. Moving around close by perks is pretty slow, but if you hold it down and want to move to 3 or 4 trees away its pretty fast and smooth. Good for moving across trees quickly, just not so good at moving within one tree.
• Random Encounter: Young woman lost in the woods near Riverwood, asked me to help her find her way/escort her back to Riverwood. I was running out of time though so I just whacked her in the face with my sword, I predict it was likely an ambush though as there's a Bandit camp pretty close by.
• Lockpicking works exactly like in Fallout 3, but is more difficult at lower levels. You can attempt any level lock at any level as in Oblivion, but it will be nigh on impossible. I tried an expert lock with a lockpicking skill of 1, even the slightest pressure snapped the pick so it was pretty impossible to find that 'sweet spot' unlike FO which gives you a lot of lenience to find the spot. Clearly this is a way of giving lower level players the option to try it, but making it hard enough that they'll still need to level the skill up - unlike oblivion where you could just be good at the minigame and cruise by.
• Boots of Quickfoot in the inventory
• Dogs can be 'talked to', they just bark and paint.
• Kids are just like Fallout, couldn't find any beast kids - only found the 2 Nord kids in Riverwood.
• People sometimes flee when you draw your sword.
• Some similar racial effects as past games, Nords resist frost for example. Argonians no longer have water breathing it seems though, which is explained by this next point…
• From what I could tell, there's no oxygen meter underwater. I was playing a Nord and was exporing underwater for a while (1 minute+) and suddenly realized there was no meter on screen and nothing had depleted (ie health, stamina). Dovahkiin gasped loudly when returning to the surface.
• Spriggans are cool now, they have these tree like roots growing all over them, forming some sort of armour - very weak to fire.
• Necromancers have some cool spells; one had something that looked like ice bullets and fired pretty rapidly, another had some red/blue/purple lighting attack.
• Relatively generous when you fall from height. Jumped from some rocks that would kill you in Oblivion, but did no damage here.
• Strange animal AI - saw someone attack an elk and it just fled and ran into the sea.
• Food all had weight so I guess this was a relatively recent build.
• The majority of finishing moves that I saw remain in first person.
• Khajiit and Argonians run/move exactly the same as human race. Great body models though, look great in person. The people queueing loved them, heard a lot of people commenting on how good they look.
• Could not enter Whiterun when in combat with the guards outside. Needed a key. I assume you can enter on peaceful terms and come and go as you please. or kill a guard for the key if not. Sort of like the Vegas strip in NV, except you don't need to pay for the peaceful option.
• Load screens mention the Oblivion crisis, lyrics to the song of the night mother, the emporor and the baldes and general lore and tidbits - not many gameplay tips.
• Compass is pretty bad, cluttered and unclear to use - icons are way too big.
• Quest journal is now in the pause menu, no longer in the menu accessed by O/B/Tab.
• Not sure how to check stats like bounty, days passed, people killed etc - or if you even can do so.
• Console can remap buttons as usual.
• Encountered a bug where every button made me dismount the horse.
• You can still climb by just tapping jump.
• Hold the shield up then press the attack button to shield bash.
• The button for the empty hand (with sword in the other) blocks with the sword.
• Third person was actually the preffered view for a lot of people - it's very easy to use and probably the best improvement of the game so far.
• Speech still locks you in, just not the whole zoomed up to their face thing from before. Press B and you 'unlock' - they continue to speak and you can move freely but you don't have any speech options on screen anymore, press on them again before they finish speaking and you lock back on and your options come back on screen.
• Player walks around with their hands cuffed in front of them in the prison.
• You level fast: Saw someone get 3/4 of the way through level 3 during the 15 min demo.
• Saw 3 different wood mills across peoples playthroughs, all looked identical.
• Feels more like Oblivion than Morrowind, but more 'weighty'
• Saw a really cool helmet on a load screen, made from either varying sized tusks, varying sized fangs/teeth or sharpened bone. I'm guessing 'bone helm' or something. It had one 'tusk' running down the centre, guarding the nose, then two tusks either side of the face, running along the cheek/jawline. The back of the helm was then made up from the tusks laid next to eachother. Coolest helm so far.
• Money can be found as single coins or as coin purses which you pick up (as opposed to searching them) - saw them come in variants of 10, 15, 20 and 25 septims.
• Tried rolling, don't think it's possible unless there's a perk I missed.
• Hanging Moss, Lavender and thistle are alchemy ingredients I found - works just like fallout, press on them, hear a 'picking' sound and the flowers are gone from the world and added to your inventory.
• Elven bow looks gorgeous.
• Found something classed as a ruin - was a dusty hollow dome like structure, looked like something you'd find in Vvardenfell - forest had grown around it and overgrown it entirely - inhabited by a dead adventurer a lone Spriggan.
• Saw a cool sword on a loading screen, looked like some sort of Scimitar.
• NPCs converse a lot more naturally now, with full animations and gestures.
• Some pretty bad pop-in - saw the water wheel in Riverwood load in completely when I stood next to it. Also shows that water isn't dynamic, it's animated around the wheel.

source: http://forums.bethso...eurogamer-2011/

Modifié par naughty99, 24 septembre 2011 - 01:39 .

[KenKenpachi]

Hmm maybe they can fix some of these issues. Then again maybe not.

[Bad King]

Thanks for the link naughty99. Lots of interesting details there (and Thalmor confirmed!).

[naughty99]

I love the fact that you can't just "buy" spells anymore. It kind of cheapened the mystery of the arcane arts.

At least you have to buy a book and actually read it to learn a new spell.

[Sigma Tauri]

Bad King wrote...

She also has a hatred of the undead and is eager to stamp out the evil practice of necromancy in Tamriel. Most daedra princes in the Elder Scrolls universe are far from being black and white.

So? She allowed her Aurorans to kill the Nine Divines faction and destroyed an Ayleid city in Sideways Cave. Generally, daedra princes are bad and dealing with them is bad. Just because not all of them are outright malicious as Molag Bal or Mehrunes Dagon doesn't mean they are not dangerous.

Some NPC's are just generic race NPC's - found a few called just 'Imperial' etc.

So, they did take Fallout's approach. Good, this should mean NPCs with personality, right?

Modifié par monkeycamoran, 24 septembre 2011 - 02:40 .

[AventuroLegendary]

So... What will be the "Megaton" of Skyrim? The first city you go to?

[Captain Crash]

I seen more then a couple of people state now that water in Skyrim seems rather horrible. Same with over the top physics.

I do hope these things are nailed down. Also it sounds like fall damage needs some work too. Anyway nice to read a critical view on things, rather then the usual "OMG SKYRIM!!!" which is normally floating around.

[naughty99]

Captain Crash wrote...

I seen more then a couple of people state now that water in Skyrim seems rather horrible. Same with over the top physics.

I do hope these things are nailed down. Also it sounds like fall damage needs some work too. Anyway nice to read a critical view on things, rather then the usual "OMG SKYRIM!!!" which is normally floating around.

I suspect these people were expecting some kind of crazy Crysis underwater wonderland or something.

Oblivion, FO3, etc., were the starting point from where the graphics engine was and from what I've seen in the gameplay footage it looks a lot better than the water in Oblivion. Maybe there are some water refracting, reflecting, resampling, etc., graphics sliders for the PC version as there are with Fallout New Vegas but personally I haven't been expecting anything more than a slight improvement over Oblivion. 
And more importantly there is a current that can carry dead bodies away  

[KenKenpachi]

Captain Crash wrote...

I seen more then a couple of people state now that water in Skyrim seems rather horrible. Same with over the top physics.

I do hope these things are nailed down. Also it sounds like fall damage needs some work too. Anyway nice to read a critical view on things, rather then the usual "OMG SKYRIM!!!" which is normally floating around.

I expected that actully. Most RPGs from Beth/Osid, that are huge like that always have some bugs or issues. Didn't expect Skyrim to not have them. It was a optional purchase for me anyways, given ME3's push back.