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Confirmed: it's not an mmo. YAY!!!

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I'm really excited about Skyrim. I love Oblivion to bits, flaws and all (I never got to play Morrowind since I wasn't into gaming back then).



And yes, if this is going to take place in the land of the Nords, epic beards are a must. No self-respecting Nord would go around with just a little scruff on his chin.

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I want it to essentially be an updated version of Morrowind. But with companions similar to F:NV.

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To be a hell of a lot more like Morrowind and a hell of a lot less like Oblivion.

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Less scaling has pretty much been brought up, but my problem with the Elder Scrolls series in general is the leveling system. I know this won't be a popular statement around these edges, but I want it streamlined. You see, having a level plan isn't fun. Having a set amount of stats that need to be improved before the next level-up is a chore, especially when you begin casting spells into the thin air, or getting hit by low-difficulty enemies for 20 minutes. It's just quite time consuming to keep track of and if you don't pay it adequate attention, you're gonna end up under-powered compared to those darn scaling enemies.



More importantly, I want the recycling minimalized. I like how every town had its own unique architecture and feel in Oblivion, but the rest of the world was filled with identical, plaines, forrests, caves and ruins, mostly filled with the same kinds of enemies.

I would also like more living characters: Make them able to interact with you in more ways than just stand/sit and stare at you while you're talking, and for God's sake improve the voice acting. Give me more emotion; make me care and make me feel guilty for not caring.

The last but not least is more and better factions. The only truly great faction in Oblivion was the Dark Brotherhood, so more of that please.

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TheMufflon wrote...

Rex Tremendae Majestatis wrote...

I don't know about you, but that sounds like a plot to me. At least as far as I remember it.


I guess that's the difference between you and me; I have standards.

Hehe, as long as you're not saying that Mass Effect is so much more original...

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A little romance wouldn't be so bad an addition in my opinion (though I am not holding my breath on that one). It's a pretty sad state of affairs when the only person that flirts with you is Valen Dreth.



The only thing that really bothered me about the level scaling was all the bandits wearing glass armor after a certain level...SO lore-breaking (glass armor is supposed to be exceedingly rare). I think one shouldn't see bandits in anything above leather except for the bandit leaders. Make the rare armors in the game harder to get so you actually feel special wearing them, instead of looking like a common bandit.

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Lets see:
-A totally refined character creator that doesn't take a person a couple of hours to make a decent face without the help of mods.
-Tattoos.
-More voice actors.
-No more greenish skin tints. Redguards and darker skins looked absolutely horrible.
-No more dramatic level/item scaling. Level scaling can be good if its done properly, but bandits popping around in glass armor? No thanks.
-To be the Dovahkiin.
-Able to do more combat moves, then just block-hit-block.
-More guilds/quests just like Morrowind.
-A stable gaming engine.
-Less glitches/bugs.
-Smart AI.

Modifié par Xeyska, 18 décembre 2010 - 05:55 .


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I really hope that they make the snow right.

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More like Morrowind with better combat and bosses that are epic. Remember Vivec? Ah, great game play. I want to be a God again.

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Exclusive content. In Oblivion you could jointly control all organizations as some kind of overlord of all creation. That needs to go.

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In Exile wrote...
Exclusive content. In Oblivion you could jointly control all organizations as some kind of overlord of all creation. That needs to go.

Very much this.

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Better dialogue. Considering how Fallout: New Vegas turned out I would say that they're on the right track with that one.

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GodWood wrote...

In Exile wrote...
Exclusive content. In Oblivion you could jointly control all organizations as some kind of overlord of all creation. That needs to go.

Very much this.

Tripled.

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thegreateski wrote...

Better dialogue. Considering how Fallout: New Vegas turned out I would say that they're on the right track with that one.


First of all I think Obsidian wrote New Vegas, second care to give an example? I really couldnt get into New Vegas and I cant say that I saw much of an improvement in the dialogue over Fallout 3. Then again I really diddnt play much of New Vegas and there were a lot of things I would have missed.

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thegreateski wrote...

Better dialogue. Considering how Fallout: New Vegas turned out I would say that they're on the right track with that one.

But wasn't it Obsidian that made that? And Bethesda was just the publisher...
edit: oh wait someone just said that... sorry.

Modifié par randumb vanguard, 19 décembre 2010 - 05:14 .


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In Exile wrote...

Exclusive content. In Oblivion you could jointly control all organizations as some kind of overlord of all creation. That needs to go.


But there should be a good explanation, why you can't be in guild A and secret society B at the same time.
In Morrowind the houses were exclusive, since you can't swear allegiance to more than one of them, while Thieves' Guild and Fighters' Guild were not technically exclusive, but at some point had colliding interests, resulting that you could only advance in one of them (iirc).
It should go along lines lines like that, because I don't see why it should be impossible to, say, lead a double life as a respected Mage and a sneaky murderer at the same time.

TheMufflon wrote...

Rex Tremendae Majestatis wrote...

I don't know about you, but that sounds like a plot to me. At least as far as I remember it.


I guess that's the difference between you and me; I have standards.


Care to elaborate? What's a plot by your standards and why is that what is in Oblivion none?

Modifié par Stazro, 19 décembre 2010 - 05:35 .


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randumb vanguard wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

Better dialogue. Considering how Fallout: New Vegas turned out I would say that they're on the right track with that one.

But wasn't it Obsidian that made that? And Bethesda was just the publisher...
edit: oh wait someone just said that... sorry.

Then we're @#$%ed.

Unless Bethesda steps up their game.

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I want more logical guild quests. I hated how in Oblivion you were the one promoted to Arch-Mage, instead of Raminus Polus. Also, not one quest required you to be strong in magic to advance in the mages guild. Fighters guild quests could be done by mages or thieves, also. Bosses also need to return, because nobody was hard to kill or exceptionally strong (examples of weak legends include Mannimarco, The Gray Prince, The Blades, Modryn Oreyn, Mankar Camoran, Arch-Mage Traven, Jygalag, Umaril, lots of others). Travelling on roads should be safer, because guards patrol them, so there shouldn't be bandits every ten feet who massacre NPCs.

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I want better character creation and better voice acting. Those were the biggest things that bothered me: people that looked like mixed pudding with eyeballs and bland voice acting where everyone of a race sounded the same.

Modifié par Hayllee, 21 décembre 2010 - 12:37 .


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Many, many more factions than Oblivion. Also mutually exclusive factions (the houses in morrowind) would be very cool.

Opponents that don't level with you. That creates two problems.

1. If you stay at level one you rock.

2. If you aren't an amazing level optimizer then as you level past 10-12ish things get harder rather than easier. <- big problem in Oblivion.

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No more ridiculous and awkward to navigate terrain, that used to ****** me right off.


Especially if there are to be a lot of mountains. In that case there needs to be some sort of climbing mode that activates when the slope is too steep.

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The game really needs a more intuitive leveling system. The need to grind 2 minor skills to have 3 attributes to get a decent bonus is a royal pain. Something like KCAS where you gain an attribute bonus automatically when you level your skill would be better than what they currently have.

Another improvement I want would be better graphics for the magic system. Currently there is a blue smear, a deep red smear, an orange ball looking thing, fuzzy yellow lighting, and a white glow. More variety would be welcome, as well as refinement of the current spell graphics.

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Environment: We're in Skyrim, it's full of Nords. Cyrodiil besides the Rome inspired Imperial City the rest of the cities felt like something i'd find in various parts of the United Kingdom. Morrowind felt exotic and Skyrim should recreate that feeling with its viking inspired areas. Don't just have all the cities be Bruma clones, they need to model them on different styles utilized by the various different groups in Scandinavia.



Plot: Oblivion's plot was fairly straight forward but it had its lore mixed in whether some people want to believe it or not and claim the plot sucked without giving any evidence. Morrowind while it's main quest didn't last longer then Oblivions (subtracting the amount of walking and times I went off track because of the bloody cliff racers) it had plenty of lore in the background that if you took the time to examine things and read into them you had a very unique feel to it. Recreating that feeling would be awesome.



Companions: Hopefully working with Obsidian on New Vegas gave Beth's writers some inspiration on writing companions.

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Just leave it open world. I was was disappointed how New Vegas was on rails. And test it thoroughly, FNV was a bugfest.