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I'm straight up getting drunk for this game.



Word.

A twelve pack of Sierra Nevada and some delicious Thai take-out will last me until I pass out.

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lol it's hilarious how betching and moaning the PC gamers are at the beth forums about the UI. Some are even saying they regret buying because of...wait get this....the UI. I mean really?

  Really.

I can completely  understand the gripes.  An RPG's UI is not some trivial thing.    It's the steering wheel, gas  and brake pedal of a game.   Imagine buying a Ferrari.   A Beautiful, powerful, comfortable  driving experience.  Does zero-60 in 3 seconds.  It's Heaven on wheels.   Now imagine you can't move the steering wheel; and  the gas pedal doesn't accelerate the car, and the brakes don't work.  And to shift gears, you have to press 3 buttons,  step on the clutch then move the stick to just the right place.

I don't know about you, but after discovering all that, I'd be taking my new Ferrari back to the dealer and buying a Lamborghini instead.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 11 novembre 2011 - 02:30 .


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Dinosaur Act wrote...

lol it's hilarious how betching and moaning the PC gamers are at the beth forums about the UI. Some are even saying they regret buying because of...wait get this....the UI. I mean really?


Some people find the fun in complaining.  Honestly the gripes I'm hearing is just silly.  I won't be surprised if we start getting metacritic reviews giving it a 0 because the textures aren't perfect or the UI doesn't read my mind.

Anyway its only 7 Pm here and to avoid spoilers I shall stay away from this thread after this post.

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Yrkoon wrote...

Dinosaur Act wrote...

lol it's hilarious how betching and moaning the PC gamers are at the beth forums about the UI. Some are even saying they regret buying because of...wait get this....the UI. I mean really?

  Really.

I can understand the gripes.  The UI is the steering wheel, gas  and break pedal of a game.   Imagine buying a Ferrari.  Beautiful, powerful, comfortable.  Does zero-60 in 3 seconds.... But you can't move the steering wheel, the gas pedal doesn't accelerate the car, and the brakes don't work.  And to shift gears, you have to press 3 buttons,  step on the clutch then move the stick to just the right place.

I don't know about you, but after discovering all that, I'd be taking my new Ferrari back to the dealer and buying a Lamborghini instead.


Horrible compariosn. No...they're just being butthurt. Plenty of non-pc elitist-but-still-use-pc users are using it just fine.

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Most of the ****ing I've seen is about the textures, not the UI.

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slimgrin wrote...

naughty100 wrote...

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

GAMERS! Tonight we dine with SKYRIM!


I'm reminded of This Guy.

And what is everyone feasting upon?

A nice bubble bath, a chopped salad from my favorite deli, a glass of pinot noir red bull perhaps.


I'm straight up getting drunk for this game.


I going to kind of do the same thing, just a little, little different...

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Dinosaur Act wrote...


 Plenty of non-pc elitist-but-still-use-pc users are using it just fine.

A completely baseless statement, since  as of right now, 90% of Skyrim puchasers do not have the game yet.  In fact, I believe there's 3 whole timezones here in the US where the game hasn't unlocked

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Yrkoon wrote...

Dinosaur Act wrote...


 Plenty of non-pc elitist-but-still-use-pc users are using it just fine.

Impossible to determine such a thing, since  as of right now, 90% of Skyrim puchasers do not have the game yet.


Yeah...has baseless has any arguement about the UI........I'm reading the forums...some are saying it's fine.

Modifié par Dinosaur Act, 11 novembre 2011 - 02:13 .


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Yrkoon wrote...

Dinosaur Act wrote...


 Plenty of non-pc elitist-but-still-use-pc users are using it just fine.

A completely baseless statement, since  as of right now, 90% of Skyrim puchasers do not have the game yet.  In fact, I believe there's 3 whole timezones here in the US where the game hasn't unlocked


All of the US and Canada will unlock at the same time (in a little under 3 hours from now).
 

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Dinosaur Act wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Dinosaur Act wrote...


 Plenty of non-pc elitist-but-still-use-pc users are using it just fine.

Impossible to determine such a thing, since  as of right now, 90% of Skyrim puchasers do not have the game yet.


Yeah...has baseless has any arguement about the UI........I'm reading the forums...some are saying it's fine.

Aah, so we go from Plenty!  to "some".

Never mind the fact that even a DEVELOPER has shown up to the Bethesda forums to point out that keymapping is bugged and that they're working on a fix.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 11 novembre 2011 - 02:17 .


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slimgrin wrote...

Dinosaur Act wrote...

lol it's hilarious how betching and moaning the PC gamers are at the beth forums about the UI. Some are even saying they regret buying because of...wait get this....the UI. I mean really?


All I can say is this: PC gamers get stuck with lame UI's all the time due to lazy porting. After a while the grievance builds up like a festering sore spot on yer ass, and then the next big multiplatform game that had a 100 million dollar budget comes out with a consolized UI. PC gamers gonna vent.

I say this not experiencing Skyrim's UI though. Maybe they are butt hurt.


I think it's the later. To be honest, it's not great, either, and really not optimized for a PC (like usually these days). But it you could handle, say, the Pip Boy in the Fallout games, you are fine here as well.

That said, looks nice, even though on ultra (it's really not that demanding, runs fine on my rather ancient machine that barely matches the recommended specs) it's a far cry from TW2's graphic. But it's lovely crafted, and the world feels quite alive.
Haven't gotten that far (in fact did the escape twice, because my character ended up looking rather stupid, so I had to restart just for that -.-), just ended up in Rivenwood. Ah well, sleep time for now.

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I'm going to be playing it on pc....I don't get hung up over textures but different people want and expect different things. I think the game looks beautiful, from what I've seen from demos and gameplay in 1080p.

I've stayed spoiler free for the most part up to this point. Going into the game intro / character creation screen blind :). I allowed myself one brief glimpse of the College of Winterhold...its different from what I expected, but spectacular.

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Yrkoon wrote...

Dinosaur Act wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Dinosaur Act wrote...


 Plenty of non-pc elitist-but-still-use-pc users are using it just fine.

Impossible to determine such a thing, since  as of right now, 90% of Skyrim puchasers do not have the game yet.


Yeah...has baseless has any arguement about the UI........I'm reading the forums...some are saying it's fine.

Aah, so we go from Plenty!  to "some".

Never mind the fact that even a DEVELOPER has shown up to the Bethesda forums to point out that keymapping is bugged and that they're working on a fix.


Plenty is a point of view so, what i see as enough.....
But whatever go ahead and  BLLLLLLLLARGGGHG THIS GAME ****ING SUCKS all you feel you need to :)

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Plenty is a point of view so, what i see as enough.....
But whatever go ahead and  BLLLLLLLLARGGGHG THIS GAME ****ING SUCKS all you feel you need to :)

I'm not.  As I don't have the game yet and thus cannot make such a judgement call either way  (and neither can you).  But I know legitimate backlash to faulty design when I see it.  Pretending it's not there  (what you're doing) is dishonest.  And does nothing in the way of getting developers to act.

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I wasn't pretending? I admit I was defending it (as you are obviously attacking it...even though you don't have the game either)....but take another look at the forums? It's really not necessary to call the entire game a mistake just because of a faulty UI. That's basically what I'm saying.

Modifié par Dinosaur Act, 11 novembre 2011 - 02:29 .


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Yrkoon wrote...

Dinosaur Act wrote...

Plenty is a point of view so, what i see as enough.....
But whatever go ahead and  BLLLLLLLLARGGGHG THIS GAME ****ING SUCKS all you feel you need to :)

I'm not.  As I don't have the game yet and thus cannot make such a judgement call.  But I know legitimate backlash to faulty design when I see it.  Pretending it's not there  (what you're doing) is dishonest.  And does nothing in the way of getting developers to act.


That's it. I enjoy this game despite the suboptimal UI. It doesn't ruin the game, far from it. But it needs to be called out.

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Merci357 wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Dinosaur Act wrote...

Plenty is a point of view so, what i see as enough.....
But whatever go ahead and  BLLLLLLLLARGGGHG THIS GAME ****ING SUCKS all you feel you need to :)

I'm not.  As I don't have the game yet and thus cannot make such a judgement call.  But I know legitimate backlash to faulty design when I see it.  Pretending it's not there  (what you're doing) is dishonest.  And does nothing in the way of getting developers to act.


That's it. I enjoy this game despite the suboptimal UI. It doesn't ruin the game, far from it. But it needs to be called out.


Isn't it a massive improvement from Oblivion's menus, however?

I enjoyed the hell out of the game, but I spent a great deal of time scrolling through lists of hundreds of items.

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To be clear, this day 1 patch they're releasing, is strictly PC or for 360 as well?

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Il Divo wrote...

To be clear, this day 1 patch they're releasing, is strictly PC or for 360 as well?


All three platforms.

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Dinosaur Act wrote...

I wasn't pretending? I admit I was defending it (as you are obviously attacking it...

Was I attacking the game?  Or was I simply countering your absurd claim that complaining about a game's UI is a silly trivial thing to do?

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I think people don't like it because the UI is optimized for the console versions, and not for the PC - and since I've played a few ports before on my PC, I can sort of understand the frustration.

*glares at the PC version of Resident Evil 4*

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naughty100 wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

To be clear, this day 1 patch they're releasing, is strictly PC or for 360 as well?


All three platforms.


Much appreciated.

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Yrkoon wrote...

Dinosaur Act wrote...

I wasn't pretending? I admit I was defending it (as you are obviously attacking it...

Was I attacking the game?  Or was I simply countering your absurd claim that complaining about a game's UI is a silly trivial thing to do?


omg this is the last time i'm responding to your evasive arguing. I wasn't saying the UI argument was trivial I was saying that wanting to take the game back because of it was trivial. and we can pretend this is court and only physical evidence matters but the combonation of the fact you continue to quote me and your persistence...it's obvious you feel kinship with the complainers. Thank you, and that's all.

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Game is awesome, UI is crap.

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Keynapping glitched? No way, I just switched the two mouse buttons to correspond with the appropriate hand. I don't think of M1 as Dominant Hand and M2 as non-dominant as it is initially set up.

The buttons work at the same frequency. Though the Dual Heavy Attack seems bugged, sometimes it will execute and other times it will not.


Yay! Just reached level 3. Now I have a perk point I don't want to use just yet, still need to figure out if I want Two-Handed or One-Handed proficiency. And Heavy Armor is taking too long to level up.