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sympathy4saren wrote...


Thanks for the info on the Shivering Isles!!

It sounds like I might have to get it now to be able to do everything by November!
I just wanna know, if you can fill me in...

-How big is the map?
-How many missions/side missions are there?
-How many dungeons are there? Are they as large as in Cyrodiil?
-Is gameplay and interface the same?
-How many hours of gameplay is there?

I did hear you access it from an island way out in the middle of Niben Bay.


The map is about a third the size of Cyrodiil, but the detail is better so it certainly doesn't feel small.

The main quest is bigger than Oblivion's, as well as 10 times more fun. It also has the Maniac path and the Demented path, so it has replayability, too.

There aren't a ton of side quests, probably about  20 or so, but they are much funner and more comical than Oblivions. For instance, you have to help this guy commit suicide by murdering him. He doesn't want to see it coming, so you can sneak attack him or push him off of this guardrail-less starcase to his death. 

There are a lot of unofficial side quests that have to be discovered on your own. There is a place called the hill of suicides where the tormented spirits of suicide victims go. If you return their skulls to every person on the hill, the final spirit will teach you a spell that raises a corpse for 60 seconds. Another example is a guy who lives in a root tunnel behind a waterfall. He tries living isolated from society with his girlfriend. She gets lonely and leaves the hidden place to go socialize, but she never leaves the cave because a monster kills her about a hundred feet from the hidden entrance. He assumed that she left him forever, but she was actually bleeding to death within a hundred feet. 

Gameplay is the same, but with a few new spells. 
  
A few dozen dungeons, and many are very unique. The two primary types are root tunnels and deserted underground cities, but they add a lot of variety in them so most feel at least somewhat unique. Many have those unofficial side quests like I mentioned. Traps are actually somewhat dangerous this time, for instance I was killed by clicking a button that made the floor disappear and I plummeted down, hitting a branch that killed me (it is a survivable fall if you stay in the middle and land in the lake 1000 feet below, but root branches are on the sides while going down). Another unique one is a root tunnel/ deserted underground city mixture. Where they meet is a war going on between the creepy frog people called Grummites and the insects called Elytra that live in the tunnels. The dungeons are definitely bigger.

I personally spent 100+ hours in it, so it's worth the money.

The land is literally split down the middle between Dementia and Mania. Mania is bright and colorful, and the people have mental illnesses like bipolar, ADHD, OCD, and things like it. The guardians of Mania are Golden Saints. Dementia is a rainy swamp with mossy rocks and twisting vines. The people of Dementia have mental illnesses like paranoid delusions, depression, murder and death fixations, and other things. Dark Seducers guard Dementia.

You access the realm by a Island in Niben Bay. It doesn't violate the laws about "closing shut the gates of Oblivion" because Sheogorath opened it as an invitation for people to enter, not as a Daedric invasion (this means you can complete the MQ in Oblivion without interfering with the gate into the Shivering Isles.)

What is really fun is attacking Sheogorath. He is impossible to kill, but his response is interesting. He freezes you in place and then casts a spell that transports you to execution point, specifically a few thousand feet above execution point. The view is quite lovely.

The plot centers around an Invasion by the Daedric Lord of Order, Jygallag. You are chosen by Sheogorath to rally the defenses of the realm and acquire the power to defeat a Daedric Lord.

Not to spoil too much, but this time you actually get a decent final boss.;)

Modifié par chunkyman, 31 mai 2011 - 03:50 .


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Morrowind got me really bad. I spent 200+ hours in that world.

Oblivion not so much, I'd say I put in maybe 100 hours, I think it was the Main Quest not grabbing me as much, since it made me feel less significant. In Morrowind you are the Nerevarine, destined to defeat a crazed immortal. In Oblivion you are the hero of kvatch...basically Martin's errand boy. Shivering Isles made it better which is why I can say I put in 100 hours, probably half in Shivering Isles.

Fallout 3. I liked more than Oblivion. I played the game to death, and there was so much stuff to do. One of my favorite RPG's of all time really.

If Skyrim can create unique mythos that grabbed me in Morrowind, I think it could potentially be my favorite game of all time.

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chunkyman wrote...

sympathy4saren wrote...


Thanks for the info on the Shivering Isles!!

It sounds like I might have to get it now to be able to do everything by November!
I just wanna know, if you can fill me in...

-How big is the map?
-How many missions/side missions are there?
-How many dungeons are there? Are they as large as in Cyrodiil?
-Is gameplay and interface the same?
-How many hours of gameplay is there?

I did hear you access it from an island way out in the middle of Niben Bay.


The map is about a third the size of Cyrodiil, but the detail is better so it certainly doesn't feel small.

The main quest is bigger than Oblivion's, as well as 10 times more fun. It also has the Maniac path and the Demented path, so it has replayability, too.

There aren't a ton of side quests, probably about  20 or so, but they are much funner and more comical than Oblivions. For instance, you have to help this guy commit suicide by murdering him. He doesn't want to see it coming, so you can sneak attack him or push him off of this guardrail-less starcase to his death. 

There are a lot of unofficial side quests that have to be discovered on your own. There is a place called the hill of suicides where the tormented spirits of suicide victims go. If you return their skulls to every person on the hill, the final spirit will teach you a spell that raises a corpse for 60 seconds. Another example is a guy who lives in a root tunnel behind a waterfall. He tries living isolated from society with his girlfriend. She gets lonely and leaves the hidden place to go socialize, but she never leaves the cave because a monster kills her about a hundred feet from the hidden entrance. He assumed that she left him forever, but she was actually bleeding to death within a hundred feet. 

Gameplay is the same, but with a few new spells. 
  
A few dozen dungeons, and many are very unique. The two primary types are root tunnels and deserted underground cities, but they add a lot of variety in them so most feel at least somewhat unique. Many have those unofficial side quests like I mentioned. Traps are actually somewhat dangerous this time, for instance I was killed by clicking a button that made the floor disappear and I plummeted down, hitting a branch that killed me (it is a survivable fall if you stay in the middle and land in the lake 1000 feet below, but root branches are on the sides while going down). Another unique one is a root tunnel/ deserted underground city mixture. Where they meet is a war going on between the creepy frog people called Grummites and the insects called Elytra that live in the tunnels. The dungeons are definitely bigger.

I personally spent 100+ hours in it, so it's worth the money.

The land is literally split down the middle between Dementia and Mania. Mania is bright and colorful, and the people have mental illnesses like bipolar, ADHD, OCD, and things like it. The guardians of Mania are Golden Saints. Dementia is a rainy swamp with mossy rocks and twisting vines. The people of Dementia have mental illnesses like paranoid delusions, depression, murder and death fixations, and other things. Dark Seducers guard Dementia.

You access the realm by a Island in Niben Bay. It doesn't violate the laws about "closing shut the gates of Oblivion" because Sheogorath opened it as an invitation for people to enter, not as a Daedric invasion (this means you can complete the MQ in Oblivion without interfering with the gate into the Shivering Isles.)

What is really fun is attacking Sheogorath. He is impossible to kill, but his response is interesting. He freezes you in place and then casts a spell that transports you to execution point, specifically a few thousand feet above execution point. The view is quite lovely.

The plot centers around an Invasion by the Daedric Lord of Order, Jygallag. You are chosen by Sheogorath to rally the defenses of the realm and acquire the power to defeat a Daedric Lord.

Not to spoil too much, but this time you actually get a decent final boss.;)


That sounds awesome. Really awesome. For a dlc/expansion that's a ton of content. Thanks a bunch for taking the time to share info with me!

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I liked the Shivering Isles quests, it's definitely a big expansion and also worth getting also because some mods require that you have it installed. Also Sheoggorath is a really fun character.

I have played numerous 300+ hour playthroughs of Oblivion, but I haven't ever gone back and replayed the Shivering Isles.

I suppose I just prefer the naturalistic art direction of Cyrodiil over the highly stylized art direction in the Shivering Isles.

From the little we've seen of Skyrim from gameplay footage and screenshots, it looks like the dev team has gone in a naturalistic direction, which I'm pretty excited about.

Modifié par naughty99, 31 mai 2011 - 04:10 .


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Thanks for the mod help. I figured out what had gone wrong on some of mine- I had them in the wrong folder- Steam is mysterious sometimes where it puts things so I must have gotten confused. Like for some reason I have a Mass Effect 2 folder in my FNV folder. Whatevs!

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I drove by and it looks like the banner is almost finished

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Don't know if this has been posted.

Awesome Russian mod for Oblivion



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naughty99 wrote...

I drove by and it looks like the banner is almost finished

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Massive sweetness. You going to E3?

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sympathy4saren wrote...


Massive sweetness. You going to E3?


Definitely - hopefully I can get in to the Skyrim presentation some how even though it is supposed to be private.

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naughty99 wrote...

sympathy4saren wrote...


Massive sweetness. You going to E3?


Definitely - hopefully I can get in to the Skyrim presentation some how even though it is supposed to be private.


:D

"Y-yeah umm... uhh... I'm w-with the uhh... press?"

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mrcrusty wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

sympathy4saren wrote...


Massive sweetness. You going to E3?


Definitely - hopefully I can get in to the Skyrim presentation some how even though it is supposed to be private.


:D

"Y-yeah umm... uhh... I'm w-with the uhh... press?"


I could always try the old standby...

"Don't you know who I am?! I'm on Todd's list." :devil:

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naughty99 wrote...

mrcrusty wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

sympathy4saren wrote...


Massive sweetness. You going to E3?


Definitely - hopefully I can get in to the Skyrim presentation some how even though it is supposed to be private.


:D

"Y-yeah umm... uhh... I'm w-with the uhh... press?"


I could always try the old standby...

"Don't you know who I am?! I'm on Todd's list dammit."


I can get you in for $500 no questions. And if a Police man comes up to you, you don't know me. You never seen me. And you sure as hell didn't see me take a rag and come up to the door guard and say "hey does this rag smell like chloroform?" Then dragged said guard behind a wall and take his place at the door. I was eating Icecream across the street.

Nigawatts wrote...

Morrowind got me really bad. I spent 200+ hours in that world.

Oblivion not so much, I'd say I put in maybe 100 hours, I think it was the Main Quest not grabbing me as much, since it made me feel less significant. In Morrowind you are the Nerevarine, destined to defeat a crazed immortal. In Oblivion you are the hero of kvatch...basically Martin's errand boy. Shivering Isles made it better which is why I can say I put in 100 hours, probably half in Shivering Isles.

Fallout 3. I liked more than Oblivion. I played the game to death, and there was so much stuff to do. One of my favorite RPG's of all time really.

If Skyrim can create unique mythos that grabbed me in Morrowind, I think it could potentially be my favorite game of all time.



Funny enough I couldn't stand morrowind, mainly due to the mechanics, but I did enjoy fallout three with the expansions.

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naughty99 wrote...

mrcrusty wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

sympathy4saren wrote...


Massive sweetness. You going to E3?


Definitely - hopefully I can get in to the Skyrim presentation some how even though it is supposed to be private.


:D

"Y-yeah umm... uhh... I'm w-with the uhh... press?"


I could always try the old standby...

"Don't you know who I am?! I'm on Todd's list dammit."


"What?!? Todd doesn't make the list?!? Now you listen here dammit, I flew in all the way from <insert location here> just to be apart of this presentation because I was promised entry by Todd Howard! So you either let me in, or bring Todd over here right now. Or so help me God, I will split your head so open that you'd be able to fit the projector into it!"

Then, when he goes to find Todd, you run inside and hide yourself amongst the journalists.

:lol:

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Or you could seek Todd out and say "Look man, I understand I'm not a part of the press, and I understand that its a private session. But I am a huge fan, and being allowed into this would be a highlight of my life just because I'm a huge gamer and big Elder Scrolls fan. I'm not in the industry, but can you help me to live a dream? I promise...not a peep...and I will let anyone search me to prove I don't have any video or cameras."

Lol who knows....maybe Todd would appreciate that sort of straight up pleading to come in!!!! :P

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mrcrusty wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

mrcrusty wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

sympathy4saren wrote...


Massive sweetness. You going to E3?


Definitely - hopefully I can get in to the Skyrim presentation some how even though it is supposed to be private.


:D

"Y-yeah umm... uhh... I'm w-with the uhh... press?"


I could always try the old standby...

"Don't you know who I am?! I'm on Todd's list dammit."


"What?!? Todd doesn't make the list?!? Now you listen here dammit, I flew in all the way from <insert location here> just to be apart of this presentation because I was promised entry by Todd Howard! So you either let me in, or bring Todd over here right now. Or so help me God, I will split your head so open that you'd be able to fit the projector into it!"

Then, when he goes to find Todd, you run inside and hide yourself amongst the journalists.

:lol:


Lol. If a journalist asks who you are, scoff and say "I'm a dev, who are you?"

They will proceed to want to interview you.

"Well, i was going to drop a secret tidbit about the game, as an anonymous source, of course, but you blew it, buddy."

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Is anyone going to get the 5th anniversary Oblivion edition thats coming out at the end of June?

It has a slick metal case, which I'm a sucker for. But it also comes with all the DLC, a bonus disc or something, and a big ole' map! Oh, and also...a ten dollar discount off Skyrim. Totally worth it.

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sympathy4saren wrote...

Or you could seek Todd out and say "Look man, I understand I'm not a part of the press, and I understand that its a private session. But I am a huge fan, and being allowed into this would be a highlight of my life just because I'm a huge gamer and big Elder Scrolls fan. I'm not in the industry, but can you help me to live a dream? I promise...not a peep...and I will let anyone search me to prove I don't have any video or cameras."

Lol who knows....maybe Todd would appreciate that sort of straight up pleading to come in!!!! :P


Hmmm... tempting but...

I think I will have to go the sneaky route. 100% chameleon blue suede shoes.

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naughty99 wrote...

sympathy4saren wrote...

Or you could seek Todd out and say "Look man, I understand I'm not a part of the press, and I understand that its a private session. But I am a huge fan, and being allowed into this would be a highlight of my life just because I'm a huge gamer and big Elder Scrolls fan. I'm not in the industry, but can you help me to live a dream? I promise...not a peep...and I will let anyone search me to prove I don't have any video or cameras."

Lol who knows....maybe Todd would appreciate that sort of straight up pleading to come in!!!! :P


Hmmm... tempting but...

I think I will have to go the sneaky route. 100% chameleon blue suede shoes.


Lol. Bring along The Greater Staff of Charm, too, just in case.

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naughty99 wrote...

sympathy4saren wrote...

Or you could seek Todd out and say "Look man, I understand I'm not a part of the press, and I understand that its a private session. But I am a huge fan, and being allowed into this would be a highlight of my life just because I'm a huge gamer and big Elder Scrolls fan. I'm not in the industry, but can you help me to live a dream? I promise...not a peep...and I will let anyone search me to prove I don't have any video or cameras."

Lol who knows....maybe Todd would appreciate that sort of straight up pleading to come in!!!! :P


Hmmm... tempting but...

I think I will have to go the sneaky route. 100% chameleon blue suede shoes.


Can I slander your name all over the place?

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Ringo12 wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

sympathy4saren wrote...

Or you could seek Todd out and say "Look man, I understand I'm not a part of the press, and I understand that its a private session. But I am a huge fan, and being allowed into this would be a highlight of my life just because I'm a huge gamer and big Elder Scrolls fan. I'm not in the industry, but can you help me to live a dream? I promise...not a peep...and I will let anyone search me to prove I don't have any video or cameras."

Lol who knows....maybe Todd would appreciate that sort of straight up pleading to come in!!!! :P


Hmmm... tempting but...

I think I will have to go the sneaky route. 100% chameleon blue suede shoes.


Can I slander your name all over the place?


Just joking around...nothing serious.

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Meh. Slandering lowers your disposition, true, but you can just bribe people and get it back up again.

Few hundred Septims ought to do the trick.

^_^

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mrcrusty wrote...

Meh. Slandering lowers your disposition, true, but you can just bribe people and get it back up again.

Few hundred Septims ought to do the trick.

^_^


Unfortunately I suspect the PR staff manning the gates at  the Skyrim event will have better A.I. than the merchants in Oblivion.

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Hm... you think so?

So bringing up the topic of mudcrabs, then walking off when they spend the next 5 minutes talking about them wont work?

There goes Plan A.

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Hmm...

Maybe I will walk right up to the girl at the check in desk and straight up ask her:

"What's going on with you? Any news from the provinces? I hear the Fighter's Guild is hiring."

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mrcrusty wrote...

Hm... you think so?

So bringing up the topic of mudcrabs, then walking off when they spend the next 5 minutes talking about them wont work?

There goes Plan A.


Remind them you're the hero of Kvatch. They will be in awe...