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#8951
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And you can find good story writing in an ES game, they're just not the main plot. I was shocked by how *good* the companions story line was, for example.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 14 novembre 2011 - 08:09 .


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happy_daiz wrote...

@vometia - I take it you're playing on PC? I saw this in an ign review last week (on page 3):

[snip]

I'm on 360, so I disagree with your assessment regarding menus, but I understand and sympathize.

I've had one crash, but that's really pretty good for a Bethesda game.

Yeah, I am.  I've heard that the menu works well on consoles, but for a PC game it's absolutely the most difficult and cumbersome I've yet encountered; it's not helped by the number of bugs, e.g. clicking on an option usually does nothing or selects something else at random (I'm not exaggerating with the "usually" either) and key remapping has fairly unpredictable effects, including some functions being wrongly labelled.

I've had a couple of dozen crashes so far, so about one every two hours; seems to be the same old memory bug from Oblivion (they lied about it being a new engine since it has quite a number of quirks that date back at least that far) but I've tried enabling the >2GB flag to see if that helps at all.

I'm genuinely enjoying the game a lot, but the user interface is hideous.  And my wrist is starting to hurt from all the awkward mouse movements...

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How does yielding work with enemies, exactly?

I tried letting a bandit yield to me, but when he recovered, he just started attacking again.

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vometia wrote...

I've had a couple of dozen crashes so far, so about one every two hours; seems to be the same old memory bug from Oblivion (they lied about it being a new engine since it has quite a number of quirks that date back at least that far) but I've tried enabling the >2GB flag to see if that helps at all.


I can't believe that is still present. 4gig Skyrim.exe is a must for any PC user. The creation engine is just a spruced up Gamebryo is it not? Not exactly a new engine.

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Yrkoon wrote...

And you can find good story writing in an ES game, they're just not the main plot. I was shocked by how *good* the companions story line was, for example.


Bethesda has improved in that respect significantly with Fallout 3 imo (forgive my transgression, Troika/Black Isle purists), and I've always found the lore itself in TES games to be rich.

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naughty99 wrote...

I tried letting a bandit yield to me, but when he recovered, he just started attacking again.


It seems to be a disappointing mechanic enemy-wise. They just take a quick breather. And of course I usually am mid swing when they do that anyways, so its too late to spare most of them. I wish they really did surrender.

It works better in (Brawl) fights. Since those are meant to be non-lethal.

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naughty99 wrote...

How does yielding work with enemies, exactly?

I tried letting a bandit yield to me, but when he recovered, he just started attacking again.


I don't think that's possible. You just kill them.

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Gunderic wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

And you can find good story writing in an ES game, they're just not the main plot. I was shocked by how *good* the companions story line was, for example.


Bethesda has improved in that respect significantly with Fallout 3 imo (forgive my transgression, Troika/Black Isle purists), and I've always found the lore itself in TES games to be rich.


I would argue that bethesda's "side quests" have always had good stories and fun situations. That boat inn sidequest in oblivion for example was great, or the quest with the artist and his magical paint.

Modifié par Nashiktal, 14 novembre 2011 - 08:18 .


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Can't kill Lydia at my house.  Before I started my game, I walked past Lord Grey playing Skyrim...and noticed he had a follower who looked fairly similar to one of my recent RPG characters.  He swung the camera around and I find she also has the exact same name as my character.  :blink:
  • "Did you get to create and name her?"
  • "No, the devs did it."
  • "Dang, that's weird."
Two days later, I hear
  • "NO, LYDIA!"
  • "What, she died?"
  • "I'm reloading; I plan to marry her."
:lol:

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vometia wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...

@vometia - I take it you're playing on PC? I saw this in an ign review last week (on page 3):

[snip]

I'm on 360, so I disagree with your assessment regarding menus, but I understand and sympathize.

I've had one crash, but that's really pretty good for a Bethesda game.

Yeah, I am.  I've heard that the menu works well on consoles, but for a PC game it's absolutely the most difficult and cumbersome I've yet encountered; it's not helped by the number of bugs, e.g. clicking on an option usually does nothing or selects something else at random (I'm not exaggerating with the "usually" either) and key remapping has fairly unpredictable effects, including some functions being wrongly labelled.

I've had a couple of dozen crashes so far, so about one every two hours; seems to be the same old memory bug from Oblivion (they lied about it being a new engine since it has quite a number of quirks that date back at least that far) but I've tried enabling the >2GB flag to see if that helps at all.

I'm genuinely enjoying the game a lot, but the user interface is hideous.  And my wrist is starting to hurt from all the awkward mouse movements...


Yeah the interface is annoying on pc and it has gotten to the point that I just use my 360 controller to play my pc game!

Also the memory bug? That might explain some of the crashes I have. For example there is this one specific dungeon where my game crases without fail every time in the same area. (bonechill pass I think its called) and my game has had a few intermitten crashes too.

I know the sound fix didn't help.

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You can navigate the menu with keyboard which makes it similar to using pad. In my opinion Xbox 360 pad didn't make it easier.

I'm having these C2D issues too. I suspect that it's some kind of memory bug, enabling the large memory address flag didn't help (though, I try bypassing the launcher now and use the flag directly to the game exe).

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Just met Barbas, holy hell I can't stop laughing.

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Yrkoon wrote...

Incidently, not sure if anyone's posted this yet, but here's the complete list of available Spouses in this game:

Female

•Aela the Huntress – Nord, found in a farm outside Whiterun.
•Aeri – Nord, found in the Pale, inside her house.
•Anwen – Redguard, found in Markarth Temple.
•Avrusa Sarethi – Dark Elf, found in the Sarethi farm in the Rift.
•Borgahk the Steel Heart – Orc, found in Mor Khazgur.
•Brelyna Maryon – Dark Elf, found in the College of Winterhold.
•Camilla Valerius – Imperial, found in Riverwood.
•Dravynea the Stoneweaver – Dark Elf, found in Kyne’s Grove.
•Ghorza gra-Bagol – Orc, found in Markarth.
•Gilfre – Imperial, found in the Mixwater Mill in Eastmarch.
•Grelka – Nord, found in Riften.
•Iona – Nord, also found in Riften.
•Jenassa – Dark Elf, found in the Drunken Huntsman, in Whiterun.
•Jordis the Sword-Maiden – Nord, found in Proudspire Manor, in Solitude.
•Lydia – Nord, found in Dragonsreach, in Whiterun.
•Mjoll the Lioness – Nord, found in her house, in Riften.
•Muiri – Breton, found in The Hag’s Cure, in Markarth.
•Njada Stonearm – Nord, found in the Companion’s Faction House, in Whiterun.
•Orla – Nord, found in the Temple of Dibella, in Markarth.
•Ria – Imperial, found in the Companion’s Faction House, in Whiterun.
•Senna – Imperial, found in the Temple of Dibella, in Markarth.
•Shahvee – Argonian, found outside Windhelm.
•Sylgja – Nord, found in Shor’s Stone.
•Taarie – High Elf, found in Solitude.
•Temba Wide-Arm – Nord, found in Ivarstead.
•Uthgerd – Nord, found in her house, in Whiterun.
•Viola Giordano – Imperial, found in Windhelm, in Eastmarch.
•Ysolda – Nord, found in Whiterun.


Male

•Ainethach – Breton, found in Karthwasten Hall, in Karthwasten.
•Angrenor Once-Honored – Nord, found in Candlehearth Hall, in Windhelm.
•Argis the Bulwark – Nord, found in Vlindrel Hall, in Markarth.
•Athis – Dark Elf, found in the Jorrvaskr Living Quarters, in Whiterun.
•Balimund – Nord, found in The Scorched Hammer, in Riften.
•Belrand – Nord, found in The Winking Skeever, in Solitude.
•Benor – Nord, found in Morthal.
•Calder – Nord, found in Hjerim, in Windhelm.
•Cosnach – Breton, found in The Warrens, in Markarth.
•Derkeethus – Argonian, found in Darkwater Pass.
•Erik the Slayer – Nord, found in Frostfruit Inn, in Rorikstead.
•Farkas – Nord, found in the Brill and Vignar, in Whiterun.
•Filnjar – Nord, found in his house, in Shor’s Stone.
•Gat gro-Shargakh – Orc, found in Pavo’s House, in Kolskeggr Mine.
•Ghorbash the Iron Hand – Orc, found in Burguk’s Longhouse, in Dushnikh Yal.
•Marcurio – Imperial, found in Riften.
•Moth gro-Bagol – Orc, found in Understone Keep, in Markarth.
•Octieve San – Breton, found in Solitude.
•Omluag – Breton, found in The Warrens, in Markarth.
•Onmund – Nord, found in The Hall of Attainment, in the College of Winterhold.
•Pavo Attius – Imperial, found in his house, in Kolskeggr Mine.
•Perth – Breton, found in the Miner’s House, in Soljund’s Sinkhole.
•Quintus Navale – Imperial, found in White Phial Services, in Windhelm.
•Revyn Sadri – Dark Elf, found in Sadri’s Used Wares, in Windhelm.
•Roggi Knot-Beard – Nord, found in Steamscorch Mine, in Kyne’s Grove.
•Romlyn Dreth – Dark Elf, found in his house, in Riften.
•Scouts-Many-Marshes – Argonian, found in the Argonian Assemblage, in Windhelm.
•Sondas Drenim – Dark Elf, found in Goldenrock Mine, in Darkwater Crossing.
•Sorex Vinius – Imperial, found in Solitude.
•Stenvar – Nord, found in Windhelm.
•Torvar – Nord, found in the Companion’s Faction House, in Whiterun.
•Vilkas – Nord, also found in the Companion’s Faction House, in Whiterun.
•Vorstag – Nord, found in Markarth.
•Wilhelm – Nord, found in Ivarstead.


Notice anything odd about this list?

Every single race is represented... except Khajits.

No love for cat people it seems.


There's only one High Elf...and I'm betting it's a girl.

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edited.

Ok I have the answer.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 14 novembre 2011 - 08:30 .


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Cutlass Jack wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

I tried letting a bandit yield to me, but when he recovered, he just started attacking again.


It seems to be a disappointing mechanic enemy-wise. They just take a quick breather. And of course I usually am mid swing when they do that anyways, so its too late to spare most of them. I wish they really did surrender.

It works better in (Brawl) fights. Since those are meant to be non-lethal.


I saw one enemy that Lydia was fighting attempt to yield. I'm not sure what stopped her from finishing him but he then got up and tried to run away. She chased him but he dived into some water and stayed there, occassionally trying to escape until she chased him back in each time. He was hiding under a bridge, I eventually had to go in and flush him out to sate her blood lust so she would start moving again.

I seem to have misplaced my horse, I got off to fight Ice Wraiths and haven't seen it since. I suspect its dead. I spent more time trying to figure out where it ran to than I did riding it.

Modifié par Druss99, 14 novembre 2011 - 08:31 .


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is it possible to divorce in this game? If so, how do we do?

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Sylvianus wrote...

is it possible to divorce in this game? If so, how do we do?


A kiss with a fist sword.

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Dinosaur Act wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...
Notice anything odd about this list?

Every single race is represented... except Khajits.

No love for cat people it seems.


There's only one High Elf...and I'm betting it's a girl.


Aww maan. This sucks<_<

#8969
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Sylvianus wrote...

is it possible to divorce in this game? If so, how do we do?


Have you tried setting your wife on fire yet? 

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Dinosaur Act wrote...

There's only one High Elf...and I'm betting it's a girl.


Well, yes. Though she's rude and looks like she'll eat your heart out.

Image IPB

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I would never associate with a damn high elf anyways. Prissy hypocrites is what they are.

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Nashiktal wrote...

I would argue that bethesda's "side quests" have always had good stories and fun situations. That boat inn sidequest in oblivion for example was great, or the quest with the artist and his magical paint.


The only one so far in Skyrim that had me giggling was a spoof of 'The Hangover.' Where I wake up being yelled at by a priestess of Dibella for fondling the statuary. Not the first time I've been accused of fondling goddess statues in recent games. (the other being DA2)

Odd trend, but amusing.Image IPB


Druss99 wrote...

I seem to have misplaced my horse, I got off to fight Ice Wraiths and haven't seen it since. I suspect its dead. I spent more time trying to figure out where it ran to than I did riding it.


If you own a horse, it will rejoin you automatically whenever you fast travel. (if you fast traveled to a town, check the stable outside.) If its a stolen horse, fast travel returns it to where you stole it. If neither of these things happened, it probably died.

Modifié par Cutlass Jack, 14 novembre 2011 - 08:38 .


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Dave of Canada wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

is it possible to divorce in this game? If so, how do we do?


A kiss with a fist sword.

Haha ! A smart idea. :lol:

If I can do it, peacefully, I'll give her this " kiss. " :P

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Nashiktal wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

is it possible to divorce in this game? If so, how do we do?


Have you tried setting your wife on fire yet? 

No, but I see that people know how to divorce without it costs any money. :D

@Dave Canada, I like your High elf.

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Not mine, she's the only High Elf NPC who you can marry.