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[Yrkoon]

Suprez30 wrote...

7: Reputation ...Does not WORK.

What gave you the idea that there was a reputation/infamy system in this game?

[Pedrak]

Suprez30 wrote...
3:  I still enjoy more the Bioware dialogues .. It's much more interactive and vivid.

That's hardly surprising, considering that the worst writing by Bio still surpasses the best from TES series. I'm enjoying Skyrim, but the characters, quests and dialogues, while not downright atrocious, are bland and vanilla. To say nothing of the "Do you like me? Let's get married!" romances - they make Bio's look like Shakespeare. What about making less (let's say one tenth) marriable NPCs and investing them with a little more personality?

It's a testament to how vibrant, alive and well-crafted the game world is that Skyrim is so fun in spite of its anodyne writing.

Modifié par Pedrak, 18 novembre 2011 - 01:40 .

[Yrkoon]

virumor wrote...


Also, FUS RO DAH

I'm so going to do that to the stupid dog companion of mine.

True story.  I took Mako, or Meeko, or whatever his name is, as a companion to try him out, to see if he's any good.  He's great in melee.  however, when we're traveling/looking around etc, he sticks to my ass and constantly "pushes" my character forward.

Anyway, to make a long story short, I was  standing up near a ledge, about to take a beautiful screen shot when suddenly,  the bastard nudges me right off it....  and I fall to my death.   My last save was at least 20 minutes earlier.

I swore veangence.  I think it's time for me to find the 3rd part of that shout.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 18 novembre 2011 - 01:48 .

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

Almost finished the Dark Brtoherhood quests and I gotta say that is one of the saddest twists in a game:(. I won't spoil it but when THAT moment came I did not want to do it:crying:. It kinda reminded me of the AC:Brotherhood in some ways.

[bleetman]

It's not really news to say that Bioware titles have their strengths, TES games have theirs, and the two tend not to overlap all that much. I don't imagine it's particularly easy to maintain a (moderately) tightly scripted narrative in a game where you can realistically forsake the main quest for dozens of hours and go do whatever the heck you want instead.

I do sometimes sort of wish they didn't try, though. Plonk me into Skryim with no real grand overarching plot and nothing really to do except whatever takes my fancy but with some well developed companions tagging along and I'd probably have the time of my life. Which isn't to say I don't like some of the people who can join you, but most of the ones I get to join me are there entirely for one reason. They don't come across as people/traveling companions.

Not that I've gotten very far in the grand scheme of things, 'course.

Modifié par bleetman, 18 novembre 2011 - 02:06 .

[Pedrak]

Well, a BioWare game with Bethesda's game world, or a Bethesda's game with BioWare's writing would be something to behold.

I do wish one of them would make a sort of compromise, ex. Bio going back to its roots with BG-like levels of exploration and sandbox-like elements, or Bethesda making less joinable NPCs but well-characterized.

The Witcher 2 tried to do something like that (good writing, characters and quests, rather big and interesting locations), but then you're forced to roleplay a pre-defined character, Geralt.

Modifié par Pedrak, 18 novembre 2011 - 02:15 .

[naughty99]

Yrkoon wrote...

virumor wrote...


Also, FUS RO DAH

I'm so going to do that to the stupid dog companion of mine.

True story.  I took Mako, or Meeko, or whatever his name is, as a companion to try him out, to see if he's any good.  He's great in melee.  however, when we're traveling/looking around etc, he sticks to my ass and constantly "pushes" my character forward.

Anyway, to make a long story short, I was  standing up near a ledge, about to take a beautiful screen shot when suddenly,  the bastard nudges me right off it....  and I fall to my death.   My last save was at least 20 minutes earlier.

I swore veangence.  I think it's time for me to find the 3rd part of that shout.

Barbas kept doing the same thing. He also killed me a few times by pushing me into the ice storm barrier on top of High Hrothgar. I thought it was because he was a demonic dog, but it sounds like all dogs are doing this.

[happy_daiz]

I started the CSI: Windhelm episode last night, with "Blood on the Ice", episode 1.

[naughty99]

Probably the funniest conversation I've had in the game so far - definitely talk to this woman if you haven't yet:

http://cloud.steampo...A345542A8E765B/

http://cloud.steampo...AAA51FD17F1E2D/
:

[hugafella]

Pedrak wrote...

Well, a BioWare game with Bethesda's game world, or a Bethesda's game with BioWare's writing would be something to behold.

I do wish one of them would make a sort of compromise, ex. Bio going back to its roots with BG-like levels of exploration and sandbox-like elements, or Bethesda making less joinable NPCs but well-characterized.

The Witcher 2 tried to do something like that (good writing, characters and quests, rather big and interesting locations), but then you're forced to roleplay a pre-defined character, Geralt.

I bought Skryim since it looked good and I haven''t really played rpg games and I have now returned it. It's not because I don't think it isn't a good game but for me a strong story is something I need.  If their was a mix of Bioware strong story skills with Bethsada open world butt load of side quests I would of kept  it and absolutely loved it. I think I'll get it again sometime in the future when the price goes down.

Modifié par hugafella, 18 novembre 2011 - 03:28 .

[Yrkoon]

hugafella wrote...
I bought Skryim since it looked good and I haven''t really played rpg games and I have now returned it. It's not because I don't think it isn't a good game but for me a strong story is something I need.  If their was a mix of Bioware strong story skills with Bethsada open world butt load of side quests I would of kept  it and absolutely loved it. I think I'll get it again sometime in the future when the price goes down.

So... how did you know Skyrim's story(s) wasn't any good?  How far did you get before deciding it wasn't?

Modifié par Yrkoon, 18 novembre 2011 - 03:49 .

[happy_daiz]

hugafella wrote...
I bought Skryim since it looked good and I haven''t really played rpg games and I have now returned it. It's not because I don't think it isn't a good game but for me a strong story is something I need.  If their was a mix of Bioware strong story skills with Bethsada open world butt load of side quests I would of kept  it and absolutely loved it. I think I'll get it again sometime in the future when the price goes down.

*scratching head*

[AngryFrozenWater]

hugafella wrote...

Pedrak wrote...

Well, a BioWare game with Bethesda's game world, or a Bethesda's game with BioWare's writing would be something to behold.

I do wish one of them would make a sort of compromise, ex. Bio going back to its roots with BG-like levels of exploration and sandbox-like elements, or Bethesda making less joinable NPCs but well-characterized.

The Witcher 2 tried to do something like that (good writing, characters and quests, rather big and interesting locations), but then you're forced to roleplay a pre-defined character, Geralt.

I bought Skryim since it looked good and I haven''t really played rpg games and I have now returned it. It's not because I don't think it isn't a good game but for me a strong story is something I need.  If their was a mix of Bioware strong story skills with Bethsada open world butt load of side quests I would of kept  it and absolutely loved it. I think I'll get it again sometime in the future when the price goes down.

You didn't play RPGs? Looks at the posters registered games. Interesting. Ghehe. Why didn't you return DA2 then? Don't tell me its railroaded story is better than Skyrim's. Also, there aren't that many quests in DA2. To give you an idea... I think I can play DA:O in about 100 hours with all DLCs. I play DA2 in about half of that. If you play Skyrim for 100 hours then you don't even have scratched the surface.

[Warheadz]

Anyone been murdered by Krosis yet? >.>

[KenKenpachi]

naughty99 wrote...

Probably the funniest conversation I've had in the game so far - definitely talk to this woman if you haven't yet:

http://cloud.steampo...A345542A8E765B/

http://cloud.steampo...AAA51FD17F1E2D/
:

I was actully wanting to talk to her to see what it was she was doing....funny enough the silly choices actully somewhat lead to a resolution.

[naughty99]

Warheadz wrote...

Anyone been murdered by Krosis yet? >.>

Yes, I was running away from a Blood Dragon at level 33 and ran right into Knosis and got double teamed. 

I reloaded about 10 times, then just stole the word from the word wall, used the Ethereal Shout and jumped off the mountain to escape from those guys.

[KenKenpachi]

Warheadz wrote...

Anyone been murdered by Krosis yet? >.>

AH! Thats that dude that attacked me with the Dragon. I killed him actully, took his mask lulz.

[hugafella]

Yrkoon wrote...

hugafella wrote...
I bought Skryim since it looked good and I haven''t really played rpg games and I have now returned it. It's not because I don't think it isn't a good game but for me a strong story is something I need.  If their was a mix of Bioware strong story skills with Bethsada open world butt load of side quests I would of kept  it and absolutely loved it. I think I'll get it again sometime in the future when the price goes down.

So... how did you know Skyrim's story(s) wasn't any good?  How far did you get before deciding it wasn't?

Read the spoliers for the main plot. Its was the quests which I got bored off. Mind you I didn't play for long so that is why I said I will be getting it again in the future. 

[Addai]

happy_daiz wrote...

I started the CSI: Windhelm episode last night, with "Blood on the Ice", episode 1.

It's glitchy.  That's the one I'm struggling with, trying to see if I can get the house to un-bug.  I completed Blood on the Ice once but backtracked on the character and had to re-do it, and 2nd time I am having a tough time completing it.  If you do things out of order then you're screwed.  Just FYI.  Follow your quest markers very carefully.

[Addai]

Warheadz wrote...

Anyone been murdered by Krosis yet? >.>

Over, and over, and over.  You get a nice helmet for thief characters, though.

[naughty99]

hugafella wrote...

Pedrak wrote...

Well, a BioWare game with Bethesda's game world, or a Bethesda's game with BioWare's writing would be something to behold.

I do wish one of them would make a sort of compromise, ex. Bio going back to its roots with BG-like levels of exploration and sandbox-like elements, or Bethesda making less joinable NPCs but well-characterized.

The Witcher 2 tried to do something like that (good writing, characters and quests, rather big and interesting locations), but then you're forced to roleplay a pre-defined character, Geralt.

I bought Skryim since it looked good and I haven''t really played rpg games and I have now returned it. It's not because I don't think it isn't a good game but for me a strong story is something I need.  If their was a mix of Bioware strong story skills with Bethsada open world butt load of side quests I would of kept  it and absolutely loved it. I think I'll get it again sometime in the future when the price goes down.

Nothing wrong with having your own personal preferences, of course.

However, after reading your comment, it almost feels like we are playing entirely different games. In my case, after logging over 90 hours in Skyrim and completing about 20% of the game, I've been absolutely blown away by the engaging characters and quests I've encountered. I have come to the realization that Emil Pagliarulo might be one of the greatest storytellers around these days, in any medium.

When you mention "strong story," are you referring to the epic movie-style cinematic cut scenes from games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age?

[Yrkoon]

Can I just say something? I think Syrim's enchanting system is amazing. And here's why:

I just joined the thieves guild, and they gave me a full set of Thieves guild armor. But there's a Problem: not only does that armor look like crap and I'd never wear it, but it's light armor and offers very little combat protection. However, the enchantments on all the pieces are quite good. Oh the delimma.

Solution: I disenchanted every piece, and applied those enchantments on the awesome-looking, perfect-for-combat armor I'm already wearing...and as an added bonus, I managed to level up while doing so. Woot!.

God I love this game.

[London]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

hugafella wrote...

Pedrak wrote...

Well, a BioWare game with Bethesda's game world, or a Bethesda's game with BioWare's writing would be something to behold.

I do wish one of them would make a sort of compromise, ex. Bio going back to its roots with BG-like levels of exploration and sandbox-like elements, or Bethesda making less joinable NPCs but well-characterized.

The Witcher 2 tried to do something like that (good writing, characters and quests, rather big and interesting locations), but then you're forced to roleplay a pre-defined character, Geralt.

I bought Skryim since it looked good and I haven''t really played rpg games and I have now returned it. It's not because I don't think it isn't a good game but for me a strong story is something I need.  If their was a mix of Bioware strong story skills with Bethsada open world butt load of side quests I would of kept  it and absolutely loved it. I think I'll get it again sometime in the future when the price goes down.

You didn't play RPGs? Looks at the posters registered games. Interesting. Ghehe. Why didn't you return DA2 then? Don't tell me its railroaded story is better than Skyrim's. Also, there aren't that many quests in DA2. To give you an idea... I think I can play DA:O in about 100 hours with all DLCs. I play DA2 in about half of that. If you play Skyrim for 100 hours then you don't even have scratched the surface.

DA2's story IS better than Skyrim's bland, cliched events.  Unfortunately I bought Skyrim on the PC through Steam and cannot return it, but would if I could.  I don't care the slightest amount about anything that has happened in the 12 hours of my life wasted on it.

[Addai]

naughty99 wrote...
Nothing wrong with having your own personal preferences, of course.

However, after reading your comment, it almost feels like we are playing entirely different games. In my case, after logging over 90 hours in Skyrim and completing about 20% of the game, I've been absolutely blown away by the engaging characters and quests I've encountered. I have come to the realization that Emil Pagliarulo might be one of the greatest storytellers around these days, in any medium.

When you mention "strong story," are you referring to the epic movie-style cinematic cut scenes from games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age?

Agreed, absolutely.  I do NOT get that people say Bethesda games are weak on story.  I think it's because it's a different storytelling style and maybe not to people's liking.  However, Skyrim has grabbed me mostly based on its storytelling.

[hugafella]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

hugafella wrote...

Pedrak wrote...

Well, a BioWare game with Bethesda's game world, or a Bethesda's game with BioWare's writing would be something to behold.

I do wish one of them would make a sort of compromise, ex. Bio going back to its roots with BG-like levels of exploration and sandbox-like elements, or Bethesda making less joinable NPCs but well-characterized.

The Witcher 2 tried to do something like that (good writing, characters and quests, rather big and interesting locations), but then you're forced to roleplay a pre-defined character, Geralt.

I bought Skryim since it looked good and I haven''t really played rpg games and I have now returned it. It's not because I don't think it isn't a good game but for me a strong story is something I need.  If their was a mix of Bioware strong story skills with Bethsada open world butt load of side quests I would of kept  it and absolutely loved it. I think I'll get it again sometime in the future when the price goes down.

You didn't play RPGs? Looks at the posters registered games. Interesting. Ghehe. Why didn't you return DA2 then? Don't tell me its railroaded story is better than Skyrim's. Also, there aren't that many quests in DA2. To give you an idea... I think I can play DA:O in about 100 hours with all DLCs. I play DA2 in about half of that. If you play Skyrim for 100 hours then you don't even have scratched the surface.

Mass effect and Dragon Age is the only RPG games I have played so I woudln't call myself someone who knows a lot about it that is why I tried skyrim to see what others are like.  I never said DA2 has a great story it is my main complaint about DA2 which I have post about.  In my post you will clearly see I never said I hated Skyrim and I would buy it again in the future to give it another try. Jeeezzz sorry for not worshipping the game.