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Does anyone know where I find an item of fortify alchemy? Or is it best if I try to find one randomly at a vendor or hope to stumble across one in my travels?

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<sniff> What's that I smell? The groundwork laid out already for an expansion pack.... maybe?


Perhaps a visit to the volcano that destroyed Morrowind?

Or maybe all these heightmaps were simply included for the benefit of modders?

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Which changes a bit what  I think. It is not forbidden to practice in secret, and it does not mean that the Empire plan to abandon Talos in long term. It may be a respite, while it tries to rebuid itself.


The Stormcloaks unknowingly play right into the Thalmor's hands, they want the Empire to crumble away so they can pick off the Human Kingdoms one by one at their leisure. They already succeeded by driving a wedge between Hammerfell and the rest of the Empire, though they didn't count on the Redguards actually being every bit the fabled warriors they are. Thalmor arrogance I suppose.

The tragedy of the Stromcloaks isn't that they're wrong or that what they want is evil, they want the self-determination of their people, but that's not a sensible thing when you've got an aggresively expansionist power with a racist view of the world and the value of those in it. Unlike Europe in the 1940's there is no overseas power that will come riding to the rescue of the smaller states being overrun by that expansionist power. Though in the context of the universe the Nine Divines might, but even with something like Pelenial Whitestrake it took a lot of heavy lifting on the part of the Human armies.

So the debate over "Should the Empire exist?" and "How should it govern others?" is something probably best left until after the Thalmor are destroyed. So long as they exist the Empire is valuable in it's role as a leviathan to ensure the cooperation and coordination of humanity's military efforts against the Thalmor. Being able to worship Talos doesn't do much when in the long run you're a Thalmor slave.

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YouthCultureForever wrote...

Does anyone know where I find an item of fortify alchemy? Or is it best if I try to find one randomly at a vendor or hope to stumble across one in my travels?


Found a 22% amulet in loot. Disenchanted it and I can make a much better one myself. hehe But the loot was random.

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Does anyone find Alchemy all that useful? I've tried it, but have barely used it at all - I get enough potions and poisons (Frostbite Venom FTW) from just looting corpses and raiding dungeons, not to mention buying them from stores.

I've stopped using it entirely - it's a waste of time and inventory space hunting down ingredients and making potions all the time. The skill is also slow to level up on top of that.

On a side note: holy crap, you can become a freakin' CANNIBAL in this game. The quest involved with it is also one of the most twisted, disturbing quests I've ever seen in a RPG - perhaps even rivaling Paragon of Her Kind.

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I don't know if this was mentioned, but.... Yesterday there was an update. I think I figured out what it did:

For one: the detection of what your system can handle seems more consistent. Both yesterday and today, I choose Default under Options and it detects Ultra High

Second: I think it fixed the shadows. I've been taking a close look at the shadows and they don't look like Tetris blocks anymore. It also appears the game is running smoother for me.

This isn't related to the update, but I found out that Shadow Rendering is programmed to be handled by the Processor and NOT your Video Card.

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RageGT wrote...

YouthCultureForever wrote...

Does anyone know where I find an item of fortify alchemy? Or is it best if I try to find one randomly at a vendor or hope to stumble across one in my travels?


Found a 22% amulet in loot. Disenchanted it and I can make a much better one myself. hehe But the loot was random.


Wow you're lucky. I keep finding enchanted items that boosts magic I don't use. I suppose I'll find one soon.

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Shouts aren't meant to be your whole combat repertoire, they're one skill in your arsenal, like your race power. They can definitely give you an edge in a tough fight.

I wasn't sure what I thought of the idea when they were marketing the game, but now that I've seen it implemented, I love the idea of a combat skill based on a language.


Same here.  Something actually different integrated into a combat skills portfolio if you will.  I love having shouts, but am famously forgetting to use them when I start getting "target lock."  Did save my ass on more than one occassion though, when my health was dangerously low, and the instant shock of just realizing it.  I remember early on...(ah, hell I really don't remember, but it was in some dungeon with a number of insanely over-HP'ed baddies)...and they were taking me down so quick I didn't even realize how hurt I was, so I finally remembered to do this shout thing; it killed one and staggered the rest just enough to give me enough breathing space to gulp down a potion, then I was able to wage a proper battle of attrition against them.

So, like you said, another tool for the kitbag.  I too was skeptical watching the previews, but am a believer seeing it in practice. To me, since I hate magic in nearly all forms (especially enemy weilders of it **cough** Necro/Pryomancers**cough** [but I digress]), it (along with left-handed fire) allows a noob-ish player like me to feel like I'm dabbling a bit, while maintaining my manliness. Image IPB

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Does anyone find Alchemy all that useful? I've tried it, but have barely used it at all - I get enough potions and poisons (Frostbite Venom FTW) from just looting corpses and raiding dungeons, not to mention buying them from stores.

I've stopped using it entirely - it's a waste of time and inventory space hunting down ingredients and making potions all the time. The skill is also slow to level up on top of that.

I can't not pick the flowers!!!

Alchemy is like any other skill, it's most useful if you practice it regularly and get the higher levels, take the perks and get enchanted equipment with Fortify Alchemy.  Until then it's costly and time-consuming, just like enchanting and smithing at early levels.  I think they implemented it better than in Oblivion, since you can't use common food ingredients to knock off a couple dozen stamina potions and level (not to mention make a lot of gold).  If you look at the alchemy perks, they pertain not just to your potion making but to how much benefit you get from potions and your poison resistance.  Which makes a lot of RP sense.  Someone who's always tasting poisonous stuff is going to develop some resistance.

I love this game.  The ideas are well thought out, and the implementation is so good.  Image IPB

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Apparently you can turn off clipping and leave the province of Skyrim


Amazing... hope they wait a while before releasing an expack using those areas though. So much to explore still and so little time! =)

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greengoron89 wrote...

Does anyone find Alchemy all that useful? I've tried it, but have barely used it at all - I get enough potions and poisons (Frostbite Venom FTW) from just looting corpses and raiding dungeons, not to mention buying them from stores.

I've stopped using it entirely - it's a waste of time and inventory space hunting down ingredients and making potions all the time. The skill is also slow to level up on top of that.


I think it's useful, the fortify alchemy enchantment, because you can enchant an entire set of gear to use while making potions which makes the potions more beneficial. I want to make potions that increase my other skills like potions of smithing to improve my weapons and armor well beyond what I could at lower levels, so yeah I think it's a nice enchantment to use.

And the average health potion is costing me 250 at a vendor so I need to make my own.

Modifié par YouthCultureForever, 22 novembre 2011 - 05:12 .


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LOL at 3 companions running around, getting lost, crossing each other in opposite directions, while trying to cross the country together! hahahahaha

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adneate wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...
Which changes a bit what  I think. It is not forbidden to practice in secret, and it does not mean that the Empire plan to abandon Talos in long term. It may be a respite, while it tries to rebuid itself.


The Stormcloaks unknowingly play right into the Thalmor's hands, they want the Empire to crumble away so they can pick off the Human Kingdoms one by one at their leisure. They already succeeded by driving a wedge between Hammerfell and the rest of the Empire, though they didn't count on the Redguards actually being every bit the fabled warriors they are. Thalmor arrogance I suppose.

The tragedy of the Stromcloaks isn't that they're wrong or that what they want is evil, they want the self-determination of their people, but that's not a sensible thing when you've got an aggresively expansionist power with a racist view of the world and the value of those in it. Unlike Europe in the 1940's there is no overseas power that will come riding to the rescue of the smaller states being overrun by that expansionist power. Though in the context of the universe the Nine Divines might, but even with something like Pelenial Whitestrake it took a lot of heavy lifting on the part of the Human armies.

So the debate over "Should the Empire exist?" and "How should it govern others?" is something probably best left until after the Thalmor are destroyed. So long as they exist the Empire is valuable in it's role as a leviathan to ensure the cooperation and coordination of humanity's military efforts against the Thalmor. Being able to worship Talos doesn't do much when in the long run you're a Thalmor slave.

Well, well said. I agree totally. ^_^

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You guys give the Thalmor too much credit. Yes, they invaded the Imperial City... on a surprised attack from an ally! They are just taller elves and the Nords will crush them all. Nords are born battle-ready. It was one Nord who unified the lands.

No compromise. The Empire is working hard to have Skyrim under Thalmor dominion but an Independent Nord Nation can repel and then counter anyone, punishing them for their stupidity and arrogance!

And now I know why I left Dawnstar and Winterhold for last (still haven't "found" Winterhold but I'm pretty close). It's like what I do with food. Leave the best pieces to savor for last. I love so much the northern part of Skyrim.

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A dragon just completed my Thieves Guild quest for me.

Here I am trying to figure out how to sneak my way to the Beehives I need to burn, when a Dragon swoops in and does the job for me....and keeps the guards busy. Apparently the Dragon was trying to be helpful since he burned exactly the three hives required and no more.

Its the unplanned moments like these that the game really shines in.Image IPB

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

A dragon just completed my Thieves Guild quest for me.

Here I am trying to figure out how to sneak my way to the Beehives I need to burn, when a Dragon swoops in and does the job for me....and keeps the guards busy. Apparently the Dragon was trying to be helpful since he burned exactly the three hives required and no more.

Its the unplanned moments like these that the game really shines in.Image IPB


So true! And what about this strategic landing by a Dragon?

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He just stood there while I chopped him hard before he took off again and came back to die! haha

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Pffft, what I read, Bravado of Nords !!!

No, I believe on the contrary it is you who give too much credit to Skyrim, who believe that their country alone against everyone would manage to beat everyone. Skyrim lost many warriors in the Great War and in the civil war, ( yes, the first one affected by this war are Nords ), has no more trade as it is said on the game. Not everybody follows Ulfric, and it wouldn't mean the union of Skyrim.

As it is said, it is first a Civil War.

And no. The end of the former Elf Empire is thanks to Nords + Imperials. Not one Nord and his nord followers.

Yes, they invaded the Imperial City... on a surprised attack from an ally! They are just taller elves and the Nords will crush them all. Nords are born battle-ready.

Did you follow the Great war ? Did you read the books about this war ? Have you seen all ( or at least some ) elements that explain how Thamors became what they are today and how ?

The thalmor at least, we can understand and imagine why they would win, but Skyrim, except, WE ARE THE BEST, I don't see much.

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dwarven armor looks really weird. i guess i hadn't noticed how big my PC actually was in his steel armor (with the naked sholders and arms). i had also hoped that is would give me more than + 1 armor rating for each piece compared to my steel armor, wich i like more. it has more of a nord feel to it than de dwarven armor does.

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Sylvianus wrote...

adneate wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...
Which changes a bit what  I think. It is not forbidden to practice in secret, and it does not mean that the Empire plan to abandon Talos in long term. It may be a respite, while it tries to rebuid itself.


The Stormcloaks unknowingly play right into the Thalmor's hands, they want the Empire to crumble away so they can pick off the Human Kingdoms one by one at their leisure. They already succeeded by driving a wedge between Hammerfell and the rest of the Empire, though they didn't count on the Redguards actually being every bit the fabled warriors they are. Thalmor arrogance I suppose.

The tragedy of the Stromcloaks isn't that they're wrong or that what they want is evil, they want the self-determination of their people, but that's not a sensible thing when you've got an aggresively expansionist power with a racist view of the world and the value of those in it. Unlike Europe in the 1940's there is no overseas power that will come riding to the rescue of the smaller states being overrun by that expansionist power. Though in the context of the universe the Nine Divines might, but even with something like Pelenial Whitestrake it took a lot of heavy lifting on the part of the Human armies.

So the debate over "Should the Empire exist?" and "How should it govern others?" is something probably best left until after the Thalmor are destroyed. So long as they exist the Empire is valuable in it's role as a leviathan to ensure the cooperation and coordination of humanity's military efforts against the Thalmor. Being able to worship Talos doesn't do much when in the long run you're a Thalmor slave.

Well, well said. I agree totally. ^_^

Because the Empire as it exists now is doing such a great job against the Thalmor?  It seems to me that it's time for a change in how things are done.

This is how I see Ulfric's duel, as well.  His use of the shout was not just to win the duel, but to make a point- that empire has made the Nords weak and will only continue to do so.  All the draugr lords can shout, so apparently this was common in the past, but the high king couldn't.

Appeasement is one way to end a war, you can say it's the realist's way, but it's also the coward's way and rarely gets you much in the end against an enemy like the Thalmor.  You're just giving them rope to hang you with.

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Pffft, what I read, Bravado of Nords !!!

No, I believe on the contrary it is you who give too much credit to Skyrim, who believe that their country alone against everyone would manage to beat everyone. Skyrim lost many warriors in the Great War and in the civil war, ( yes, the first one affected by this war are Nords ), has no more trade as it is said on the game. Not everybody follows Ulfric, and it wouldn't mean the union of Skyrim.

As it is said, it is first a Civil War.

And no. The end of the former Elf Empire is thanks to Nords + Imperials. Not one Nord and his nord followers.

Yes, they invaded the Imperial City... on a surprised attack from an ally! They are just taller elves and the Nords will crush them all. Nords are born battle-ready.

Did you follow the Great war ? Did you read the books about this war ? Have you seen all ( or at least some ) elements that explain how Thamors became what they are today and how ?

The thalmor at least, we can understand and imagine why they would win, but Skyrim, except, WE ARE THE BEST, I don't see much.



The words I used (surprise attack by an ally) were told to me in game by someone who was at the Imperial City during the attack 30 years ago. Blank pages of a book accept anything, my friend, whether truths or lies!

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marbatico wrote...

dwarven armor looks really weird. i guess i hadn't noticed how big my PC actually was in his steel armor (with the naked sholders and arms). i had also hoped that is would give me more than + 1 armor rating for each piece compared to my steel armor, wich i like more. it has more of a nord feel to it than de dwarven armor does.

I feel the same way exactly.  My PC is still in steel armor at level 24, albeit she's got some enchanting skill so it's now decently buffed.  The ebony armor looks ok, but I love the old Nord look, and even the steel plate looks goofy on a female.  It seems like with the higher level armors they went with a "fantasy" look.  Bleccchhh.

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Addai67 wrote...

marbatico wrote...

dwarven armor looks really weird. i guess i hadn't noticed how big my PC actually was in his steel armor (with the naked sholders and arms). i had also hoped that is would give me more than + 1 armor rating for each piece compared to my steel armor, wich i like more. it has more of a nord feel to it than de dwarven armor does.

I feel the same way exactly.  My PC is still in steel armor at level 24, albeit she's got some enchanting skill so it's now decently buffed.  The ebony armor looks ok, but I love the old Nord look, and even the steel plate looks goofy on a female.  It seems like with the higher level armors they went with a "fantasy" look.  Bleccchhh.


Yeah, I'm thinking of reforging my gear in Steel or even Iron for the real Nord look. I can't craft plates, though. Heavy armor will have to do it. My super duper Ebony is too powerful. I don't even take damage from most things anymore at level 46. It is like playing in god-mode. I'd bet that Daedric and Dragon are even worse, I mean, more god-mode like?

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Addai67 wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

adneate wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...
Which changes a bit what  I think. It is not forbidden to practice in secret, and it does not mean that the Empire plan to abandon Talos in long term. It may be a respite, while it tries to rebuid itself.


The Stormcloaks unknowingly play right into the Thalmor's hands, they want the Empire to crumble away so they can pick off the Human Kingdoms one by one at their leisure. They already succeeded by driving a wedge between Hammerfell and the rest of the Empire, though they didn't count on the Redguards actually being every bit the fabled warriors they are. Thalmor arrogance I suppose.

The tragedy of the Stromcloaks isn't that they're wrong or that what they want is evil, they want the self-determination of their people, but that's not a sensible thing when you've got an aggresively expansionist power with a racist view of the world and the value of those in it. Unlike Europe in the 1940's there is no overseas power that will come riding to the rescue of the smaller states being overrun by that expansionist power. Though in the context of the universe the Nine Divines might, but even with something like Pelenial Whitestrake it took a lot of heavy lifting on the part of the Human armies.

So the debate over "Should the Empire exist?" and "How should it govern others?" is something probably best left until after the Thalmor are destroyed. So long as they exist the Empire is valuable in it's role as a leviathan to ensure the cooperation and coordination of humanity's military efforts against the Thalmor. Being able to worship Talos doesn't do much when in the long run you're a Thalmor slave.

Well, well said. I agree totally. ^_^

Because the Empire as it exists now is doing such a great job against the Thalmor?  It seems to me that it's time for a change in how things are done.

Appeasement is one way to end a war, you can say it's the realist's way, but it's also the coward's way and rarely gets you much in the end against an enemy like the Thalmor.  You're just giving them rope to hang you with.

I prefer myself to be pro-active to change things within the Empire, than to destroy everything and weaken our chances. Also a defeat is only a defeat, not the end. The Empire is still free, can collect it forces, rebuild itself. Of course, this requires that the empire is united, if we want all those things useful.

And the Empire knows that peace will not last with Thalmors in the game.  They are already well aware they will have to find solutions. Two powerful Empire can't live together.

The emperor is a man, there are other in the Empire, with other resources.  I know it is attractive to abandon a kingdom defeated or which capitulated, that said.

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Addai67 wrote...

marbatico wrote...

dwarven armor looks really weird. i guess i hadn't noticed how big my PC actually was in his steel armor (with the naked sholders and arms). i had also hoped that is would give me more than + 1 armor rating for each piece compared to my steel armor, wich i like more. it has more of a nord feel to it than de dwarven armor does.

I feel the same way exactly.  My PC is still in steel armor at level 24, albeit she's got some enchanting skill so it's now decently buffed.  The ebony armor looks ok, but I love the old Nord look, and even the steel plate looks goofy on a female.  It seems like with the higher level armors they went with a "fantasy" look.  Bleccchhh.


Have you seen the glass armor?

That's what my character is wearing, for now, but I'm not a big fan. It looks like there is big, scaly hand covering her va-jay-jay. Image IPB

I think the men's version is different than the woman's version, for varying reasons.

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RageGT wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Pffft, what I read, Bravado of Nords !!!

No, I believe on the contrary it is you who give too much credit to Skyrim, who believe that their country alone against everyone would manage to beat everyone. Skyrim lost many warriors in the Great War and in the civil war, ( yes, the first one affected by this war are Nords ), has no more trade as it is said on the game. Not everybody follows Ulfric, and it wouldn't mean the union of Skyrim.

As it is said, it is first a Civil War.

And no. The end of the former Elf Empire is thanks to Nords + Imperials. Not one Nord and his nord followers.

Yes, they invaded the Imperial City... on a surprised attack from an ally! They are just taller elves and the Nords will crush them all. Nords are born battle-ready.

Did you follow the Great war ? Did you read the books about this war ? Have you seen all ( or at least some ) elements that explain how Thamors became what they are today and how ?

The thalmor at least, we can understand and imagine why they would win, but Skyrim, except, WE ARE THE BEST, I don't see much.



The words I used (surprise attack by an ally) were told to me in game by someone who was at the Imperial City during the attack 30 years ago. Blank pages of a book accept anything, my friend, whether truths or lies!

That's not the problem.

You are about to insinuate that Thalmors did not  have the superiority during the great war, they were not strong, and their success is due simply to the abandonment of an ally of the empire. Which is totally false. Look at what they have done above all and you will understand better their power.